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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
January 16 2012 14:03 GMT
#21
Group B looks so much scarier than group A.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 16 2012 16:08 GMT
#22
On January 16 2012 21:52 Shawngood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 14:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Hmm. Should be TSM & Curse out of group A, Dig and M5 out of group B. Although I have very little faith in post Jatt Dig at the moment, and CRS is always liable to blow up all over the place randomly.

The other teams just dont seem as strong atm, especially considering that SK and Sypher are completely new teams from the ones that have past experience at IEM.

Your 2nd point should apply more to Crs than to Sypher. Sypher made two changes to their lineup since NYC, arguably for the better: a new AP mid (ALth0r went to aAa) and a new jungler.

It is my understanding thta this is an entirely new Sypher team. The old one is now with TT and this is a completely new group.

And to everyone bashing my non inclusion of aAa. They were a MESS in the tourneys they actually made last year. You really expect me to put them over the 4th best NA team? Once again, there are 2 EU teams that have proven they can actually beat American teams. Fnatic and SK. Sk no longer exists, and Fnatic didnt make the tournament.

And if you say "oh look at these scrims" I am just going to start laughing.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 16:43:17
January 16 2012 16:42 GMT
#23
On January 17 2012 01:08 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 21:52 Shawngood wrote:
On January 16 2012 14:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Hmm. Should be TSM & Curse out of group A, Dig and M5 out of group B. Although I have very little faith in post Jatt Dig at the moment, and CRS is always liable to blow up all over the place randomly.

The other teams just dont seem as strong atm, especially considering that SK and Sypher are completely new teams from the ones that have past experience at IEM.

Your 2nd point should apply more to Crs than to Sypher. Sypher made two changes to their lineup since NYC, arguably for the better: a new AP mid (ALth0r went to aAa) and a new jungler.

It is my understanding thta this is an entirely new Sypher team. The old one is now with TT and this is a completely new group.

And to everyone bashing my non inclusion of aAa. They were a MESS in the tourneys they actually made last year. You really expect me to put them over the 4th best NA team? Once again, there are 2 EU teams that have proven they can actually beat American teams. Fnatic and SK. Sk no longer exists, and Fnatic didnt make the tournament.

And if you say "oh look at these scrims" I am just going to start laughing.

Sypher is actually sending their old players to Kiev. The players agreed to play this tournament with their old team in order to not lose the spot in the tournament. Not 100% sure about the exact terms on which they play but this IS the Sypher we got to know in NYC (with new AP Mid and Jungle).

Regarding aAa: I see where you are coming from. Then again you probably didn't watch any of the EU qualification or any of the recent EU Go4LoL tournaments so you base your statement on a somewhat washed up version of aAa/Millenium that we got to see at gamescom and in China. This team is more on a "aAa at Dreamhack" kind of level I believe and there they finished 2nd behind fnatic, beating the US teams.
@ESL_Shawn
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
January 16 2012 19:09 GMT
#24

MrBitter for casting ?
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 16 2012 20:25 GMT
#25
On January 17 2012 04:09 -Zoda- wrote:
https://twitter.com/#!/MrBitterTV/status/158948358935945217
MrBitter for casting ?



interesting

according to joe miller, these are the casters

Casters for ESL TV:
Joe Miller
Leigh "Deman" Smith
Daniel "Zenon" Klein
David "Phreak" Turley
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 17 2012 00:58 GMT
#26
This should be TSM's tournament to win, but I hope M5 crushes them so Regi rages more hueheuhue
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 17 2012 21:19 GMT
#27
Looks like Curse will have to play without nyjacky at Kiev. He's stuck in Shanghai because his visa application wasn't filled out properly and he can't fly to Ukraine from China with just his passport.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ol8r1/team_curse_iem_kiev_need_your_help/
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 17 2012 21:51 GMT
#28
I guess that puts sk through group a then.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
January 17 2012 22:16 GMT
#29
On January 18 2012 06:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
I guess that puts sk through group a then.

Did you really thought that Curse had any chance to make it out of the group then?
MonteCristo
Profile Joined November 2011
United States76 Posts
January 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#30
You may be interested in ggChronicle's IEM Kiev Preview, which you can find here:
http://ggc.leaguecraft.com/i/iem-kiev-preview-team-profiles-tournament-format-and-predictions/

If OP felt like putting this in his post, we'd not only appreciate it, but it's also a great reference for people to learn more about the teams.

ggChronicle will be releasing a lot of content this weekend, including strategy analyses of games as they are played, so be sure to check back!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 17 2012 23:10 GMT
#31
On January 18 2012 08:06 MonteCristo wrote:
You may be interested in ggChronicle's IEM Kiev Preview, which you can find here:
http://ggc.leaguecraft.com/i/iem-kiev-preview-team-profiles-tournament-format-and-predictions/

If OP felt like putting this in his post, we'd not only appreciate it, but it's also a great reference for people to learn more about the teams.

ggChronicle will be releasing a lot of content this weekend, including strategy analyses of games as they are played, so be sure to check back!

+ Show Spoiler +
Predictions
1. Team SoloMid
2. Dignitas
3. Moscow 5
4. SK Gaming
5/6. aAa
5/6. Curse Gaming
7/8. Sypher
7/8. White Lotus

real, imho
1. Moscow 5
2. SK Gaming
3. Dignitas
4. Team SoloMid
Shanba
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland144 Posts
January 17 2012 23:14 GMT
#32
On January 17 2012 04:09 -Zoda- wrote:
https://twitter.com/#!/MrBitterTV/status/158948358935945217
MrBitter for casting ?

No, he posted on the forums somewhere that he was going to do a 12 weeks with the pros for league of legends. I believe that he also stated that the first show was going to be from iem kiev, so I'm pretty sure that's what it's referring to.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 18 2012 00:46 GMT
#33
On January 18 2012 07:16 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 06:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
I guess that puts sk through group a then.

Did you really thought that Curse had any chance to make it out of the group then?

Given that sk lost their jungle (most valuable role) and top, yes, I would argue that they would have had a shot.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
January 18 2012 10:48 GMT
#34
On January 17 2012 01:08 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 21:52 Shawngood wrote:
On January 16 2012 14:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Hmm. Should be TSM & Curse out of group A, Dig and M5 out of group B. Although I have very little faith in post Jatt Dig at the moment, and CRS is always liable to blow up all over the place randomly.

The other teams just dont seem as strong atm, especially considering that SK and Sypher are completely new teams from the ones that have past experience at IEM.

Your 2nd point should apply more to Crs than to Sypher. Sypher made two changes to their lineup since NYC, arguably for the better: a new AP mid (ALth0r went to aAa) and a new jungler.

It is my understanding thta this is an entirely new Sypher team. The old one is now with TT and this is a completely new group.

And to everyone bashing my non inclusion of aAa. They were a MESS in the tourneys they actually made last year. You really expect me to put them over the 4th best NA team? Once again, there are 2 EU teams that have proven they can actually beat American teams. Fnatic and SK. Sk no longer exists, and Fnatic didnt make the tournament.

And if you say "oh look at these scrims" I am just going to start laughing.


I think like many others that aAa can actually win the whole tournament, but that's maybe me being french
We'll see.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
January 18 2012 16:00 GMT
#35
Just wanted to say "thanks" for the thread. I couldn't find the schedule for this tournament anywhere on the IEM Kiev website. It's fucking ridiculous how difficult it can be to find LoL tourny info sometimes. Gogo TL!
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
January 18 2012 19:16 GMT
#36
Hey dudes! I'm in Kiev now. The venu is pretty unreal. If you got any questions for players let me know and I'll try to hunt em down.

No predictions from me other than it's going to be a sick tournament.
My modesty is awesome.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 18 2012 19:25 GMT
#37
On January 19 2012 04:16 DanielZKlein wrote:
Hey dudes! I'm in Kiev now. The venu is pretty unreal. If you got any questions for players let me know and I'll try to hunt em down.

No predictions from me other than it's going to be a sick tournament.

Only questions that I have are for the teams jungles re the new jungle. I'm just interested to see if the general consensus of "crappy but playable" is still prevalent.

Also, Shawn or Daniel might know this, but the games start at 6 AM EST- what is the replay system/rebroadcast gonna be so I can actually watch the games?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 18 2012 19:53 GMT
#38
On January 18 2012 08:10 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 08:06 MonteCristo wrote:
You may be interested in ggChronicle's IEM Kiev Preview, which you can find here:
http://ggc.leaguecraft.com/i/iem-kiev-preview-team-profiles-tournament-format-and-predictions/

If OP felt like putting this in his post, we'd not only appreciate it, but it's also a great reference for people to learn more about the teams.

ggChronicle will be releasing a lot of content this weekend, including strategy analyses of games as they are played, so be sure to check back!

+ Show Spoiler +
Predictions
1. Team SoloMid
2. Dignitas
3. Moscow 5
4. SK Gaming
5/6. aAa
5/6. Curse Gaming
7/8. Sypher
7/8. White Lotus

real, imho
1. Moscow 5
2. SK Gaming
3. Dignitas
4. Team SoloMid

I'd say they have the top 4 wrong.

aAa and Sypher have a VERY strong chance of getting out of group stages, whereas SK seems kinda weak, and M5 does so much crazy thing they might as well lose. The american teams look scary, but I'm not sure Dignitas can make it out of their group.
The legend of Darien lives on
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 19 2012 01:10 GMT
#39
Does anyone know if the group stages are Bo1 or Bo3? I'm guessing Bo1 for time reasons but I am still hoping for extra LoL...
Zero fighting.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 19 2012 01:12 GMT
#40
Days 1 and 2 are bo1, days 3 and 4 are bo3
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
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