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On September 13 2012 04:03 wei2coolman wrote: I don't see how rylais would be a good buy for him... RoA is probably optimized better. his giant AOE slow on that gravity field thing, is more than enough slow, that he doesn't really need it on his Q and E.
Rylai is godly on Viktor. I wouldn't buy it as the first item, but definitely after DCAP. Kite forever with Q and E. Hue.
EDIT: btw, I feel that Viktor is getting "better" because people are starting to appreciate his Q more. Should his power augment get a buff I can see him being OP.
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Does this guy's E still glitch out and not show up when you strafe after shooting it? I recall tricking out so many people with this and basically poking them to death.
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any augment that is better than 30% more damage on your strongest nuke would have to be OP for anyone to ever buy it.
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What is the current build for viktor now that DFG got nerfed?
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On November 02 2012 19:36 Leonite7 wrote: What is the current build for viktor now that DFG got nerfed?
I never bought that stupid item on viktor 
2Dring, augment, dcap, void staff, and then situational defense (abyssal, athene, zhonya)
After the dcap, you don't necessarily need void right away either. You can kinda branch out once you get cap.
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Is the abyssal really that useful? Seems like laser is mostly longer range poke, and the athena would be the go-to for MR days.
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On November 02 2012 23:52 sylverfyre wrote: Is the abyssal really that useful? Seems like laser is mostly longer range poke, and the athena would be the go-to for MR days.
Depends entirely on what you need. If you're going for strict poke/disengage comp, then absolutely get Athene's instead. If you're going to be jumped on a lot and/or in the direct middle of battle (which Viktor does well with Q + ult), then Abyssal works as well. Viktor is a fairly flexible champ.
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Vikor has taken over ahri as one of my favorite mid champs now.
damn you soniv.
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Vik is so damn fun... its not even fair xD
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I was wondering a bit earlier about Ahri anyway, since the nerfs on Abyssal and DFG kinda skewed her itemization, if she is nearly as good early as she was previously. Viktor is good, he's fun, and he shuffles. What could you ask for?
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I most certainly hope Vik doesnt get any buffs tbh ^^ I love him and not in a small part because he's so underplayed. If he becomes FotM he'll lose his charm for me =/
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On November 03 2012 03:54 Promises wrote: I most certainly hope Vik doesnt get any buffs tbh ^^ I love him and not in a small part because he's so underplayed. If he becomes FotM he'll lose his charm for me =/
He won't become FotM unless they really do something ridiculous. People are bad, and they can only play faceroll champs like Ahri or Kat. Give them anything they actually have to try with, and they fail hard. Same reason people can't play Syndra.
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On November 03 2012 03:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 03:54 Promises wrote: I most certainly hope Vik doesnt get any buffs tbh ^^ I love him and not in a small part because he's so underplayed. If he becomes FotM he'll lose his charm for me =/ He won't become FotM unless they really do something ridiculous. People are bad, and they can only play faceroll champs like Ahri or Kat. Give them anything they actually have to try with, and they fail hard. Same reason people can't play Syndra. People like you?
OH SICK BURN
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Well at least he is capable of decent casting.  (Makes me remember I haven't checked your channel in several days, brb.)
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Careful there, Wave. I've got a super covert army of TLers behind me.
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Well we haven't heard of you feeding first blood for awhile. But that means we haven't heard of you feeding first blood then carrying either.
Damn, I'm using "well" way too much.
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On November 03 2012 03:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 03:54 Promises wrote: I most certainly hope Vik doesnt get any buffs tbh ^^ I love him and not in a small part because he's so underplayed. If he becomes FotM he'll lose his charm for me =/ He won't become FotM unless they really do something ridiculous. People are bad, and they can only play faceroll champs like Ahri or Kat. Give them anything they actually have to try with, and they fail hard. Same reason people can't play Syndra.
for some reason i take huge offense to this statement.
but it's from soniv, so it's k.
WHY YOU CALLING ME NO SKILL FACEROLL PLAYA
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On November 08 2012 11:23 Soloside wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 03:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 03 2012 03:54 Promises wrote: I most certainly hope Vik doesnt get any buffs tbh ^^ I love him and not in a small part because he's so underplayed. If he becomes FotM he'll lose his charm for me =/ He won't become FotM unless they really do something ridiculous. People are bad, and they can only play faceroll champs like Ahri or Kat. Give them anything they actually have to try with, and they fail hard. Same reason people can't play Syndra. for some reason i take huge offense to this statement. but it's from soniv, so it's k. WHY YOU CALLING ME NO SKILL FACEROLL PLAYA
I've always accused you of using gimmicky things to get ahead. And I've also always tried to convince you to get good at something that isn't gimmicky, so that when it gets nerfed, you don't fall behind.
It's all outta love <3
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So, as i am a TLer and playing more and more mid, i had to give Viktor a try, thx to soniv and wave and all the other advertisers. Really funny. picked him specifically vs a katarina, figuring out he might be one of the better champs to play with against her. Worked well. I just maxed Q and was able to outtrade her pretty hard. But in the end, maxing e first seems to be the better thing to do over all, for wave clearing and so on. Do i need Q first vs champs like that, or am i just bad for relying on it?
Additionally, i was oom pretty fast, so, athenes first a good thing to do, or should i open with more ap stuff?
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