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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
August 22 2012 17:25 GMT
#681
just started playing LoL again after a long hiatus. How have you guys been faring as solo top nunu vs nidalee?
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 22 2012 17:27 GMT
#682
Nidalee's total bullshit so I just max Q first and outsustain her. I can't really seem to make her budge and pounce just destroys your ult, so yea, I just treat it as a free farm lane now.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 22 2012 17:35 GMT
#683
She was annoying as fuck the one time I laned v her. Max consume, realize that you'll never catch her, and try not to let her all-in you, or you're dead.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 22 2012 17:44 GMT
#684
On August 22 2012 18:19 clickrush wrote:
why don't you guys just kill the big one and leave?


That's basically counterjungling your teammate.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 22 2012 21:06 GMT
#685
And stealing the big one and leaving takes too long to do it safely in the enemy jungle.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
August 22 2012 22:22 GMT
#686
On August 21 2012 04:45 Mogwai wrote:
You should end up @ like 75-80% HP. Attack the large one twice, consume the small one, attack the big one a bit, but spend a lot of time kiting, you only want to eat as many hits as you need to eat in order to hit it enough to get it to just under 500 HP for your consume. So then you show up on lane before any creeps are dead, last hit 2 melee minions, eat then last melee minion, ding 2 and smack the opponent with your formidable yeti paws and snowballs.

How do you kite melee vs melee? It's not like you can get free hits on the golem.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 22 2012 22:27 GMT
#687
On August 23 2012 07:22 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:45 Mogwai wrote:
You should end up @ like 75-80% HP. Attack the large one twice, consume the small one, attack the big one a bit, but spend a lot of time kiting, you only want to eat as many hits as you need to eat in order to hit it enough to get it to just under 500 HP for your consume. So then you show up on lane before any creeps are dead, last hit 2 melee minions, eat then last melee minion, ding 2 and smack the opponent with your formidable yeti paws and snowballs.

How do you kite melee vs melee? It's not like you can get free hits on the golem.

You only need to get the Golem below 500 HP, so you don't need to constantly smack the golem or get free hits on it. Just hit it/get hit by it just enough to get it to 500 HP, run around when you don't need to hit it, so it doesn't get to hit you, and then eat it when Consume comes off CD, that's what he means by kiting it.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 23 2012 00:16 GMT
#688
I don't know about you guys, but at my elo I've shit on every nidalee I've come across, ice balls and yeti fists too OP
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 04:54:33
August 23 2012 04:51 GMT
#689
I just did 2 games in a row solo top vs. Xin Zhao using Mogwais build and I have to say it wasn't very fair. In the first game I had a pretty consistent 50 CS lead over Xin, and in the second game after Xin died the third time he ragequit and I apologized to his team.

Point being, Mogwais build works v. well. That grail really makes the build, it lets you grab the chalice early to solve your mana issues and turn it into something powerful late game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
August 23 2012 06:10 GMT
#690
On August 23 2012 07:22 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:45 Mogwai wrote:
You should end up @ like 75-80% HP. Attack the large one twice, consume the small one, attack the big one a bit, but spend a lot of time kiting, you only want to eat as many hits as you need to eat in order to hit it enough to get it to just under 500 HP for your consume. So then you show up on lane before any creeps are dead, last hit 2 melee minions, eat then last melee minion, ding 2 and smack the opponent with your formidable yeti paws and snowballs.

How do you kite melee vs melee? It's not like you can get free hits on the golem.


I just kite the golem from far left to far right within it's leash distance, striking the golem once each time I change direction. This results in taking no dmg for over 2 seconds each pass and leaves you extremely healthy like 80%+ after the consume and golem heal.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 23 2012 13:33 GMT
#691
Bad news guys

Nunu's getting a nerf (at least in the pbe from RoG): Ice Blast [ E ]: Now lasts for 3 seconds (Down from 4)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 13:41:01
August 23 2012 13:40 GMT
#692
Probably fair. Would hurt jungle Nunu the most. Harder to do low level ganks.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 23 2012 14:02 GMT
#693
On August 23 2012 13:51 Ketara wrote:
I just did 2 games in a row solo top vs. Xin Zhao using Mogwais build and I have to say it wasn't very fair. In the first game I had a pretty consistent 50 CS lead over Xin, and in the second game after Xin died the third time he ragequit and I apologized to his team.

Point being, Mogwais build works v. well. That grail really makes the build, it lets you grab the chalice early to solve your mana issues and turn it into something powerful late game.


Not surprising. Nunu top ruins almost any melee-ranged autoattackers - especially if he is unprepared mechanically and mentally. He does have some weak match ups, such as Vladimir.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 23 2012 14:22 GMT
#694
On August 23 2012 23:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 13:51 Ketara wrote:
I just did 2 games in a row solo top vs. Xin Zhao using Mogwais build and I have to say it wasn't very fair. In the first game I had a pretty consistent 50 CS lead over Xin, and in the second game after Xin died the third time he ragequit and I apologized to his team.

Point being, Mogwais build works v. well. That grail really makes the build, it lets you grab the chalice early to solve your mana issues and turn it into something powerful late game.


Not surprising. Nunu top ruins almost any melee-ranged autoattackers - especially if he is unprepared mechanically and mentally. He does have some weak match ups, such as Vladimir.

I wouldn't consider Vlad a bad matchup tbh. You can shit on him pretty damn hard before lvl 7 and get quite a sizable lead by the time Vlad is anywhere near a threat to you. Even if you somehow misplay/get camped, maxing Q gives you just as much if not more sustain than Vlad.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 23 2012 14:26 GMT
#695
Is the Ice Blast nerf going to make Nunu unviable for competitive play? I honestly doubt it, but I am curious nonetheless.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 23 2012 14:34 GMT
#696
On August 23 2012 23:26 Shiragaku wrote:
Is the Ice Blast nerf going to make Nunu unviable for competitive play? I honestly doubt it, but I am curious nonetheless.

Nunu still very good. The nerf just makes it so you can't maintain Ice Blast debuff with max cdr.

Nunu's competitive viableness comes from infinite sustain in lane + being a big fucking dick with enough mana regen, being able to give a lategame AD carry a free PD, and being able to (almost) maintain a massive move and attack speed slow on any target. He also has massive damage potential from his ult, making him a big cc magnet.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 23 2012 15:03 GMT
#697
I haven't lost to a vlad since I started running split pen marks and focusing on smacking him upside the head with my yeti paws.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 23 2012 15:08 GMT
#698
http://www.twitch.tv/smashgizmo/b/329607355

1:53:00ish... that poor poor swain.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 23 2012 15:19 GMT
#699
You think the split pen marks are better than pure mpen?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 23 2012 15:30 GMT
#700
On August 24 2012 00:19 Ketara wrote:
You think the split pen marks are better than pure mpen?

depends on the matchup. vs. most bruisers, you don't want to be in their face, so split pen doesn't do shit, but vs. mages @ top lane, you frequently end up way ahead @ level 4 by Ice Blasting and beating them down with blood boil. you'll notice that I have 2 nunu pages that I use these days, 1 with flat MRes glyphs and SplitPen marks and 1 with scaling MRes glyphs and MPen marks.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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