Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.

Krobolt

Canada42 Posts

March 18 2015 18:38 GMT

#221

On March 19 2015 03:30 c0ldfusion wrote:
Mark my words Protoss will dominate in beta. Protoss early game is going to be so OP. They're just going to bunker bust with disruptors.

I think you're confused, the Disruptor is a T3 unit, not a T1 or T2 one. Rest assured no one's going to bunker bust you early game with Disruptors.

KingAlphard

Italy1705 Posts

March 18 2015 18:38 GMT

#222

No mentions about warpgate, are they still going to nerf it or did they change their minds?

KatatoniK

United Kingdom978 Posts

March 18 2015 18:39 GMT

#223

On March 19 2015 03:38 KingAlphard wrote:
No mentions about warpgate, are they still going to nerf it or did they change their minds?

Still nerfing it for whatever reason. I guess we're not allowed to defend anymore :/

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44271 Posts

March 18 2015 18:39 GMT

#224

On March 19 2015 03:38 Krobolt wrote:

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I think you're confused, the Disruptor is a T3 unit, not a T1 or T2 one. Rest assured no one's going to bunker bust you early game with Disruptors.

Dude Protoss early game is gonna be so OP, when they rush carrier/ colossus/ dark templar/ disruptors before stim is finished.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44271 Posts

March 18 2015 18:40 GMT

#225

On March 19 2015 03:38 KingAlphard wrote:
No mentions about warpgate, are they still going to nerf it or did they change their minds?

They said units that are warping in are easier to kill until they're actually on the battlefield iirc.

dala

Sweden477 Posts

March 18 2015 18:40 GMT

#226

Pretty awesome! Did you notice that units are outlined when behind a structure? Will make it make traps with units hidden behind buildings, e.g. widow mines.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44271 Posts

March 18 2015 18:41 GMT

#227

On March 19 2015 03:37 Incognoto wrote:
Rumor has it that David Kim wants to replace mineral patches with neutral widow mines

That's still more entertaining than what Dustin Browder wanted.

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Replace mineral patches with destructible rocks.

Elentos

55511 Posts

March 18 2015 18:42 GMT

#228

I'm honestly not sure what the point of the disruptor is to begin with. Provide additional AoE? There's already storm and colossi also exist. I guess the point might be to strengthen Protoss early on so you don't die to the first Terran moveout after stim's done and to weaken speedling rushes, but I mean, the options against that already exist. And against the inevitable ravager rushes you'd probably rather build immortals anyway.

KingAlphard

Italy1705 Posts

March 18 2015 18:42 GMT

#229

My bad, I just pressed F3 and typed warpgate.
Still, they also wanted to increase warp-in time to 8 seconds, but they didn't talk about that.

Musicus

Germany23576 Posts

March 18 2015 18:43 GMT

#230

Can't wait, watching streams will be so sick

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

March 18 2015 18:43 GMT

#231

On March 19 2015 03:37 UberNuB wrote:

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Only problem is that it kind of kills HotS.

We saw that with WoL -> HotS, where people kinda stopped watching anything WoL related aside from the highest level tournaments.

Hopefully this LotV makes for less coin flippy feeling games.

Maybe tournaments should switch to LOTV as fast as possible.
Will the balance be perfect? No probably not, but the balance wasn't perfect at the start of wol either.
I think it would work

GinDo

3327 Posts

March 18 2015 18:44 GMT

#232

Templar route needs more love. Dark Archon plz

purakushi

United States3300 Posts

March 18 2015 18:45 GMT

#233

More images and details on the adept (and others)

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/starcraft_ii_legacy_of_the_void/b/pc/archive/2015/03/17/new-protoss-unit-and-beta-screens-revealed.aspx

Elentos

55511 Posts

March 18 2015 18:45 GMT

#234

On March 19 2015 03:42 KingAlphard wrote:
My bad, I just pressed F3 and typed warpgate.
Still, they also wanted to increase warp-in time to 8 seconds, but they didn't talk about that.

Imo it's good they didn't go for that, from what I see holding multiple bases sucks enough for Protoss as is, no reason to butcher defensive warp-ins.

Thezzy

Netherlands2117 Posts

March 18 2015 18:45 GMT

#235

Mostly interesting changes, only the Oracle change has me worried.

A full 60 second forced decloak AND vision? As if Cloaked Banshees and Dark Templar weren't rare enough already.
I honestly prefer the WoL days when it comes to Cloak units, atleast there they had an impact.
Now the only use is in PvT if Terran gets completely caught off guard.
Why must Protoss be immune to Cloak/Burrow units?

As for the stasis, this will dominate the early game.
Just rush out two Oracles, stasis the mineral line and vaporize anything else.
Zerg will have a massive issue as well as you can just stasis the Queen(s) and then melt the Drones.

Sometimes I wonder if Blizzard has put the Oracle on some holy status.

Disruptors are going to be...interesting if not horribly bunker-busting OMGWTFBBQ overpowered, but we'll have to see.
I can already imagine Warp Prism dropping a few of them into a mineral line.
You could even time it with stasis expiring for laughs.
EDIT: They're a T3 unit? I thought they were T1/T1.5 like Sentries?
If T3 it would be more balanced, though Forcefield + Disruptors...scary thought.

Terran and Zerg changes look more interesting.
For the new Terran unit I am hoping for either a Starport unit that can engage both ground and air or something else to help Mech with mobility and AA.

Dropping Tanks is going to be fun to try out, not sure how it'll fare against Zerg in the early game though, could be OP but atleast we get a chance to find out.
Not sure about the Swarm Host, more mobility and less siege-and-forget is good but flying Locusts? Hmmm....

Elentos

55511 Posts

March 18 2015 18:46 GMT

#236

What? The Adept shoots bouncing energy disks? Predator much?

felisconcolori

United States6168 Posts

March 18 2015 18:48 GMT

#237

Interesting set of changes. It will be interesting to see how it all works out in the long run, because I know the game when delivered will look nothing like this. Well, it may have some vague similarities.

Also, I've been in every beta so far for StarCraft 2, so here's hoping for number three.

StarcraftWonders

United States59 Posts

March 18 2015 18:48 GMT

#238

Can't wait. I hope i get a beta key sooner than i did with HOTS

Roadog

Canada1670 Posts

March 18 2015 18:48 GMT

#239

On March 19 2015 03:28 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

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Hahah lol :D Protoss gets so much shit, even in carbot

"Our drones are under attack!"
That's Team Derpfestor isn't it?!

Elentos

55511 Posts

March 18 2015 18:49 GMT

#240

On March 19 2015 03:45 Thezzy wrote:
EDIT: They're a T3 unit? I thought they were T1/T1.5 like Sentries?
If T3 it would be more balanced, though Forcefield + Disruptors...scary thought.

They were always said to come from the robo, so that's never lower than T2 <.<

On March 19 2015 03:48 Roadog wrote:

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"Our drones are under attack!"
That's Team Derpfestor isn't it?!

Team Derpfestor has red team colour