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Patch 8.7: Live on April. 4th, 2018
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Lux + Hat + POM
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Leona
Leona's attack reset makes attack damage pretty valuable for her, so we're shifting that to being her default adaptive stat.
ONE SUN TWO STUN Leona defaults to attack damage as her default adaptive stat
Wait, when did Leo ever not have AD as her adaptive stat lol. Unless you're doing a wacky LichBane build?
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On April 04 2018 08:21 AdsMoFro wrote:
Leona
Leona's attack reset makes attack damage pretty valuable for her, so we're shifting that to being her default adaptive stat.
ONE SUN TWO STUN Leona defaults to attack damage as her default adaptive stat
Wait, when did Leo ever not have AD as her adaptive stat lol. Unless you're doing a wacky LichBane build?
If both bonus AD and AP are 0, champs have assigned preferences(like how Camille decides which type of shield she gets). The default for Leona(like I'm assuming most tanks) is AP/magic.
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On April 04 2018 08:59 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2018 08:21 AdsMoFro wrote:
Leona
Leona's attack reset makes attack damage pretty valuable for her, so we're shifting that to being her default adaptive stat.
ONE SUN TWO STUN Leona defaults to attack damage as her default adaptive stat
Wait, when did Leo ever not have AD as her adaptive stat lol. Unless you're doing a wacky LichBane build? If both bonus AD and AP are 0, champs have assigned preferences(like how Camille decides which type of shield she gets). The default for Leona(like I'm assuming most tanks) is AP/magic.
Oh, for some reason I thought at the start of the game all damage from adaptive runes was AD until you pass a certain point. Now that I think about it, it makes complete sense to work the way you said lol.
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Those minion gold changes seem huge since stacked waves are largely caster minions. Less gold to pick up after slow pushes is a biggie. Or am I overreacting?
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Any minion change is going to unexpectedly impactful. I was watching old VODs last weekend and you will be amazed at how much less gold was available to teams, and how much bigger gold leads would get in an instant because you could just force your opponents to get 0 gold for several minutes.
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I just want to say Alaric getting the last post after "DARKNESS" is iconic :ok_hand:
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This Karthus buff looks pretty decent.
How long is the Leblanc revert supposed to take? 
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Ivern and Lux gonna be OP in this patch
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I don't think the Lux buff changes her strength vs the rest of the cast at all.
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On April 04 2018 09:42 Ansibled wrote:This Karthus buff looks pretty decent. How long is the Leblanc revert supposed to take?
They just put it back up on the PBE.
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On April 04 2018 09:42 AlterKot wrote:
I just want to say Alaric getting the last post after "DARKNESS" is iconic :ok_hand:
I post like three times per thread tho, not sure which way I should take it...
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Dw fam tsall in good intention
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The Vi “buffs” on the pbe are a net nerf I don’t know if much but the q change while really great doesn’t do anything to prevent it from being a mandatory max, meanwhile heavy nerfs to the first point her 3rd skill in return for 5% attack speed on a Melee???
Yikes
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On April 04 2018 13:17 Slusher wrote:
The Vi “buffs” on the pbe are a net nerf I don’t know if much but the q change while really great doesn’t do anything to prevent it from being a mandatory max, meanwhile heavy nerfs to the first point her 3rd skill in return for 5% attack speed on a Melee???
Yikes
Maybe they fixing bugs too. She probably the least reliable champ in the game... especially given she supposedly has an "unstoppable targeted cc" ultimate.
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I think Vi's problem is the same as many other junglers: The role is tough to balance because there are PVP & PVE aspects and balancing the two within the context of the dozens of other balance changes is very hard right now.
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I haven't played Mundo in years, maxing Q seems pretty obvious, I might've been thinking of the days of sustain tanks in top like Shyv and Renek from S3/4 idk.
Lux is becoming a big reset champ this patch, but her other problems still remain so it shouldn't be too crazy.
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Gragas
Q - Barrel Roll
DAMAGE RATIO 0.6 ability power ⇒ 0.7 ability power
W - Drunken Rage
RATIO 0.3 ability power ⇒ 0.5 ability power
FEEL NO PAIN Drunken Rage grants Gragas additional damage reduction equal to 4% per 100 ability power
welcome back gragas mid?
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