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Kai'sa will be released this patch. To find out more about her, check here!
Patch 8.5: Live on March. 7th, 2018
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Sorry for the delay guys. Shouldn't happen again!
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What the hell where's my Neo?
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Riot seems to be trying to revert all the things.
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On March 08 2018 09:17 Alaric wrote:
What the hell where's my Neo?
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On March 08 2018 10:08 Ansibled wrote:
Riot seems to be trying to revert all the things.
Still waiting.
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KaiSa seems like an interesting champ.
Messing around with her, I think shes kind of just an abusive top laner.... Certainly not bottom thats scary / awful. I dont think she can farm reliably enough to jungle. Mid she can't trade reliably / wave clear.
Give her items and I think she does the most damage in the game though. Just... not sure how she gets there.
EDIT: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/03/37-pbe-update.html
Apparently I am a Galio 1 trick after next patch. Huh.
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Are keys only from honor now? I have so many chests.
Riot did a nice job on that one.
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Keys are kind of like daily login rewards now. Just make sure you always log in a day and you'll eventually get some keys. I still have a bunch of chests as well since key rate is a lot slower than chest rate if you aren't a 1 trick. Did get an email survey about the key situation so they may be looking into it.
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On March 08 2018 12:31 iCanada wrote:KaiSa seems like an interesting champ. Messing around with her, I think shes kind of just an abusive top laner.... Certainly not bottom thats scary / awful. I dont think she can farm reliably enough to jungle. Mid she can't trade reliably / wave clear. Give her items and I think she does the most damage in the game though. Just... not sure how she gets there. EDIT: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/03/37-pbe-update.htmlApparently I am a Galio 1 trick after next patch. Huh.
I tried jungle with her, her clear is ok. I was able to do red wolves blue without using a pot and being like half health.
The only thing I don't like about her jungle is that she's kind of weak until she gets that upgrade on her skill and lack of cc sucks. She doesn't have the burst damage or cc most junglers have so its kind of meh. W is hard to hit too so you can't even ult onto laners reliably. Her passive is really strong though.
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On March 08 2018 21:12 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2018 12:31 iCanada wrote:KaiSa seems like an interesting champ. Messing around with her, I think shes kind of just an abusive top laner.... Certainly not bottom thats scary / awful. I dont think she can farm reliably enough to jungle. Mid she can't trade reliably / wave clear. Give her items and I think she does the most damage in the game though. Just... not sure how she gets there. EDIT: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/03/37-pbe-update.htmlApparently I am a Galio 1 trick after next patch. Huh. I tried jungle with her, her clear is ok. I was able to do red wolves blue without using a pot and being like half health. The only thing I don't like about her jungle is that she's kind of weak until she gets that upgrade on her skill and lack of cc sucks. She doesn't have the burst damage or cc most junglers have so its kind of meh. W is hard to hit too so you can't even ult onto laners reliably. Her passive is really strong though.
Yeah but aside from metroid aesthetics... why would you pick her jungle over kindred? Kindred does all the same things just better... ie full hp clear, burst and CC, team wide utility, come back / scaling mechanics less reliant on gold, better mobility (this is the real big one for me, got to not get unequivocally pummeled by ww/jax/eve)...
Idk ill have to test her in some real games, because I like the concept. But Idk I'm doubtful.
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Kai'Sa not being able to evolve Q with Gunblade+Rageblade, she's 8 AD short at level 18, piss me off. Riot finally had the chance to finally make a non-Kayle that could utilize Nashtor's Tooth and they blew it....
Hurricane is 100% going to be core on her and I have no idea why Riot listed Shiv instead. The bolts work with her E reset. Could see Rageblade too since it works with her passive and all her stuff got AP ratios and E work with the double proc too. Wouldn't be suprised if she just ends up with the Varus/Kog build. Maybe Essence reaver 3rd for the CDR so she can have perma E uptime.
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So this patch is apparently 10 GB for me, I'm going to assume that's not normal.
How do people have so many chests, I have like 1 chest and 40 key fragments. I get fragments every single day, Riot says from honor but it's probably just a daily reward. Is it because I pretty much only play ADC?
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They announced that. They are redoing the whole sound engine behind the game. So they said it would be much larger than usual. 10GB does seem high though.,,
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On March 08 2018 12:31 iCanada wrote:KaiSa seems like an interesting champ. Messing around with her, I think shes kind of just an abusive top laner.... Certainly not bottom thats scary / awful. I dont think she can farm reliably enough to jungle. Mid she can't trade reliably / wave clear. Give her items and I think she does the most damage in the game though. Just... not sure how she gets there. EDIT: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/03/37-pbe-update.htmlApparently I am a Galio 1 trick after next patch. Huh.
I found her jungle pretty solid tbh
You definitely need laners with CC and I am really not confident in how to build her. I went rageblade/warrior which feels bad out of jungle but gets her Q upgrade. Wits end 3rd for her invis on E
Went Gunblade after just to get her W also but that didnt feel great. Obviously this was a longer game
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In terms of raw damage; I think best build is Rageblade > Runaans > IE. Pricy as hell from jungle, but with these three items you are the strongest 3 item champ in the game and only get stronger regardless what you build.
Might make sense in non snowball game from jungle to build like skirmisher> zerkers > recurve > Blackcleaver > wits. Cheaper and tankier, gives you some tankiness and utility, gets you fast stealth. You instant stack BC with Q which is nice then slowly transition to the 3 hyper carry build items. Idk. Got to not die before you get your 3 items worth 11k gold.
I'm also not sure you want to actually build jungle item past skirmisher. Idk. If you can get Rageblade by 15 to 17 minutes reliably by rushing it that's the way to go and I think she's probably just a jungler.
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On March 09 2018 00:26 Jek wrote:
Kai'Sa not being able to evolve Q with Gunblade+Rageblade, she's 8 AD short at level 18, piss me off. Riot finally had the chance to finally make a non-Kayle that could utilize Nashtor's Tooth and they blew it....
Hurricane is 100% going to be core on her and I have no idea why Riot listed Shiv instead. The bolts work with her E reset. Could see Rageblade too since it works with her passive and all her stuff got AP ratios and E work with the double proc too. Wouldn't be suprised if she just ends up with the Varus/Kog build. Maybe Essence reaver 3rd for the CDR so she can have perma E uptime.
Good thing there's 3 other item slots.
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On March 09 2018 02:44 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 00:26 Jek wrote:
Kai'Sa not being able to evolve Q with Gunblade+Rageblade, she's 8 AD short at level 18, piss me off. Riot finally had the chance to finally make a non-Kayle that could utilize Nashtor's Tooth and they blew it....
Hurricane is 100% going to be core on her and I have no idea why Riot listed Shiv instead. The bolts work with her E reset. Could see Rageblade too since it works with her passive and all her stuff got AP ratios and E work with the double proc too. Wouldn't be suprised if she just ends up with the Varus/Kog build. Maybe Essence reaver 3rd for the CDR so she can have perma E uptime. Good thing there's 3 other item slots.
Yes but you need to buy boots and to make Nashtor's really worth it you want your last two items to have AP. That being said I haven't done any math to see if a Deathcap would add more damage than an evolved Q on a Nashtor's build.
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So wtf is Zoe supposed to be now? Her kit no longer seems cohesive
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