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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 15 2018 14:51 GMT
#81
By boxing you mean box selecting? Why would you ever need to do that?
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 00:52:11
March 16 2018 00:51 GMT
#82
Why is it EUW is always broken when I actually want to play?

I wouldn't mind if League had better selection tools though, they could make more interesting things if you weren't limited to clicking/alt clicking. Actually the thing that annoys me more than that is you can't shift queue in League.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8937 Posts
March 16 2018 03:53 GMT
#83
On March 15 2018 23:51 GrandInquisitor wrote:
By boxing you mean box selecting? Why would you ever need to do that?

because its faster to box select than to click on the target champion. pretty much the only reason in lol so far, but if box selecting existed than youd open the game up to a lot more things (multiple units etc).
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 04:08 GMT
#84
Box selecting would actually be really fun if they implemented a character with targeted AOE, like old Vlad E, but you have to have the enemy selected for it to apply.
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 16 2018 11:45 GMT
#85
I could see champs that can control multiple units instead of hive mind style champs like Azir. Without box selecting that seems impossible.
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
March 16 2018 15:51 GMT
#86
Are they reworking Irelia or something?
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 15:59:04
March 16 2018 15:57 GMT
#87
On March 16 2018 20:45 AdsMoFro wrote:
I could see champs that can control multiple units instead of hive mind style champs like Azir. Without box selecting that seems impossible.


It's possible but do we really want them in a game with champions like Nunu, Warwick or Ashe?

On March 17 2018 00:51 Bladeorade wrote:
Are they reworking Irelia or something?


Yes
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 16 2018 15:59 GMT
#88
On March 17 2018 00:51 Bladeorade wrote:
Are they reworking Irelia or something?

It's the next release.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 16 2018 17:22 GMT
#89
On March 17 2018 00:57 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2018 20:45 AdsMoFro wrote:
I could see champs that can control multiple units instead of hive mind style champs like Azir. Without box selecting that seems impossible.


It's possible but do we really want them in a game with champions like Nunu, Warwick or Ashe?

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 00:51 Bladeorade wrote:
Are they reworking Irelia or something?


Yes


So I get nunu and ww making that weird, but why ashe?
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
March 16 2018 18:14 GMT
#90
Just listed examples of champions that can't do much mechanically. Nunu might be too simple, so I wouldn't mind seeing him reworked into something with a higher skill ceiling, but I'm not sure if I want to have Ashe / Warwick and a champion more complicated than Azir in the same game.

It's like "(slow) Zealot vs Marine" in sc2. A Bronze Protoss will murder a bronze Terran, but if they're both gold or higher the Protoss will always lose regardless of how well he can control his Zealots. In Starcraft you can play around that by adding other units, but you can't do that as easily in LoL.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 18:19 GMT
#91
On March 17 2018 00:59 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 00:51 Bladeorade wrote:
Are they reworking Irelia or something?

It's the next release.

But why
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 16 2018 20:18 GMT
#92
On March 17 2018 03:19 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 00:59 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2018 00:51 Bladeorade wrote:
Are they reworking Irelia or something?

It's the next release.

But why

Idk, I'm not Riot.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 20:42:15
March 16 2018 20:41 GMT
#93
I couldn't find an official comment but I'm guessing it's probably several reasons: she's old, she was hard to balance, her mechanics are pretty simple, and she never really pulled of the "I control blades with my mind" theme very well. The one riot comment about her that I did find implied that they wanted to update her Warwick style rather than Swain style. That is, they want to change the abilities but keep the play pattern.

I don't play Irelia so, judging from previous Riot reworks, that means I'll probably like this one.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 20:59 GMT
#94
I don't mind a rebalance on her, clearly her W is an outdated skill that they could change to % HP if they want to make her more splitpushy or make the lifesteal only when activated with a bigger bonus damage if they want her to be more of a diver. I don't see how that is a rework though. I know they have said the passive is a problem, but I don't really believe that. Her ult is a "meh" skill, but idk what I'd replace it with.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 16 2018 21:03 GMT
#95
Riot speak last year on why she's getting VGU. Interestingly enough, Riot did fly in the NA Irelia one trick in Dec to playtest the new Irelia but nothing's been released or teased yet.
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 21:10:40
March 16 2018 21:09 GMT
#96
On March 17 2018 05:59 cLutZ wrote:
I don't mind a rebalance on her, clearly her W is an outdated skill that they could change to % HP if they want to make her more splitpushy or make the lifesteal only when activated with a bigger bonus damage if they want her to be more of a diver. I don't see how that is a rework though. I know they have said the passive is a problem, but I don't really believe that. Her ult is a "meh" skill, but idk what I'd replace it with.


Long range slow (like Naut ult) projectile (her blades) that slows a single target and/or does bonus missing hp damage.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 22:27 GMT
#97
On March 17 2018 06:09 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 05:59 cLutZ wrote:
I don't mind a rebalance on her, clearly her W is an outdated skill that they could change to % HP if they want to make her more splitpushy or make the lifesteal only when activated with a bigger bonus damage if they want her to be more of a diver. I don't see how that is a rework though. I know they have said the passive is a problem, but I don't really believe that. Her ult is a "meh" skill, but idk what I'd replace it with.


Long range slow (like Naut ult) projectile (her blades) that slows a single target and/or does bonus missing hp damage.


That doesn't really seem to fit either of the two options I laid out. I suppose missing damage could make her a pure assassin, but I dont see that being a stable kit. A ranged slow would, IMO, make her not Irelia anymore. Maybe if it was a blink to the target with a root it would fit in.

To me, Irelia is all about autos and dashes, and that is the identity that should be preserved. TBH, Camille is kind of like the over-Riot-ized version of an Irelia rework, so IDK how they are going to split the baby.
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
March 16 2018 23:00 GMT
#98


Here's a Rioter talking about Irelia. Basically, her ult's been moved to another part of her kit. Her Q has been amplified. New ult and another brand new ability
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2018 23:46 GMT
#99
On March 17 2018 08:00 AdsMoFro wrote:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QgNJVHDnH94?start=1710" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here's a Rioter talking about Irelia. Basically, her ult's been moved to another part of her kit. Her Q has been amplified. New ult and another brand new ability

I'd guess W was totally replaced then
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 16 2018 23:47 GMT
#100
On March 17 2018 08:46 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 08:00 AdsMoFro wrote:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QgNJVHDnH94?start=1710" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here's a Rioter talking about Irelia. Basically, her ult's been moved to another part of her kit. Her Q has been amplified. New ult and another brand new ability

I'd guess W was totally replaced then

They're going to pull a Riot and make it her passive.
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