EPT[Patch 7.2] Warwick Rework General Discussion - Page 4
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Poland9331 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 27 2017 08:48 Reson wrote: Nice info. Definitely would not have been able to find that click through option by myself. Btw does that mean I need to shift + click when I want to look at the map or does the click through option only affects right click? Also, how do I download replays of pro games or pro's solo queue games where I can control the camera? I am assuming there is no player perspective option atm. Going through and testing champions, what exactly is the point of the knock back of Poppy's ult? I tried to knock people into my turret then realized that the description said towards their base always. Is it mainly a defensive measure? I cant imagine that forcing your teammates to burn mobility to follow up is a benefit. It means instead of left clicking the map to move the camera, you have to shift click. Or instead of right clicking on the map to set a long move command you need to shift right click. For Poppy's ult, you can use it to move the opposing frontline out of the fight, junglers over walls to stop smites, or snapcast it for a knockup. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
Be wary about doing it on Tahm Kench. | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On January 27 2017 08:04 iCanada wrote: Who did you lane against? I have a hard time seeing ww as a top in pro play because his wave control just isn't good. He 1v1s real well, but how is he going to stop a Sion / Mao / Poppy / Fiora / Camille from shoving him in and winning the rest of the map while WW either loses farm / XP or watches his lane opponent snowball? WW has always dumpstered most top laners 1v1. Thus was true since he was released. Has been true since he was released. quasus yeah thats my only big concern but i was surprised by how often my W was triggered in lane. that AS is pretty crazy. but first buy tiamat and it's not that bad, kinda like trundle. both have as boosts, and only an aa reset as 'wave clear'. I think fiora/camille would be tough but I think sion/mao would be fairly easy. | ||
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Reson
530 Posts
Any word on replays? Also, do people not use the target info box? Isnt it being in the top left really out of the way? Google is telling me that it hasnt always been there. Do people not need it because they know all the effects of the items so they can just calculate from the tab interface? The info seems pretty critical to me. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 27 2017 10:02 Reson wrote: I see. Guess it was just a bit weird to me that you cant choose direction. Any word on replays? Also, do people not use the target info box? Isnt it being in the top left really out of the way? Google is telling me that it hasnt always been there. Do people not need it because they know all the effects of the items so they can just calculate from the tab interface? The info seems pretty critical to me. Not sure about replays because I haven't used them. I don't find the target frame all that useful outside of maybe checking items, but I just tab for that. After a while, League becomes a "feel" thing. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Junglers would probably best utilize replays, figuring out a better player's pathing in the early game. For everyone else, possibly to slow down team fights to see where you could've played more optimally. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On January 27 2017 09:46 dsyxelic wrote: quasus yeah thats my only big concern but i was surprised by how often my W was triggered in lane. that AS is pretty crazy. but first buy tiamat and it's not that bad, kinda like trundle. both have as boosts, and only an aa reset as 'wave clear'. I think fiora/camille would be tough but I think sion/mao would be fairly easy. I mean, waveclear is like one of Trundle's biggest problems, and the only reason he's viable is because his AA reset is 30 mana / 4s cooldown. I'm not actually sure Warwick's Q is an AA reset, but even if it were, it's 50-90 mana / 6s cooldown. Warwick's mana pool is also smaller. At level 5, with 3 ranks in Q, Trundle can cast 421/30 = 14 Qs without going oom; Warwick can cast 333/70 = only 4 Qs before going oom. Not to mention that Trundle's AS is unconditional and Warwick's is not. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 27 2017 10:50 NeoIllusions wrote: At this point, replays are just nice to have. I don't think they're essential (sandbox is probably more useful) but it's still awkward not to have such a feature nowadays. Junglers would probably best utilize replays, figuring out a better player's pathing in the early game. For everyone else, possibly to slow down team fights to see where you could've played more optimally. I use Replays a lot for pathing. Its nice to sit down BW style and just be like "ok what did I see. What did I think. What did I decide? What was the optimal play? Is the optimal in this game play an optimal play to do all the time or only because of XYZ??" I think I like watching my replays more than playing the game. <_< On January 27 2017 09:46 dsyxelic wrote: quasus yeah thats my only big concern but i was surprised by how often my W was triggered in lane. that AS is pretty crazy. but first buy tiamat and it's not that bad, kinda like trundle. both have as boosts, and only an aa reset as 'wave clear'. I think fiora/camille would be tough but I think sion/mao would be fairly easy. I dunno, I actually think Sion and Mao would likely lose lane then just win off of winning bottom lane. I agree though, WW would decimate them if Isolated. | ||
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Reson
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 27 2017 11:27 Reson wrote: Maybe my question was too basic but what I wanted to know was how to get replays? More of pro games or of pub games of any player (including myself) Op.gg | ||
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Reson
530 Posts
Oh didnt Riot implement replays in client or something? Or is that a "soon" feature? What about LCK replays? I cant seem to find those on op.gg. I know where to find VODs but I cant control the camera. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
his kit is built completely around Q spam just like trundle, pretty sad what they turned him into. just another spam proc abuser | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 27 2017 11:49 Reson wrote: Oh didnt Riot implement replays in client or something? Or is that a "soon" feature? What about LCK replays? I cant seem to find those on op.gg. I know where to find VODs but I cant control the camera. You can grab your own replays through Riot's method, not sure about other people's. Competitive games aren't played on the live server, so there's no publicly available replays. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On January 27 2017 10:02 Reson wrote: I see. Guess it was just a bit weird to me that you cant choose direction. Any word on replays? Also, do people not use the target info box? Isnt it being in the top left really out of the way? Google is telling me that it hasnt always been there. Do people not need it because they know all the effects of the items so they can just calculate from the tab interface? The info seems pretty critical to me. replays have been out for a couple months and work great though i think you can only record your own games and not view other peoples' | ||
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Reson
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On January 27 2017 13:27 Reson wrote: Ok I see. So Op.gg can I take it from their match history? Or do I have to catch them live? OP.gg records every game above a threshold, I think it might be d3? but it will record any game that you ask it too as long as you are on the website at the time to request a recording while the game is still live. LCK and such does not take place on public realms, so there is no way to acquire professional match replays sadly | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 27 2017 11:53 VayneAuthority wrote: new ww is basically trundle with a more versatile ult but its not targetable and not reliable. I don't really like it much, rip old warwick. you dont even go on hit anymore, you build like trundle (iceborn/titanic/visage/etc) his kit is built completely around Q spam just like trundle, pretty sad what they turned him into. just another spam proc abuser I mean, as someone who played old WW all the time in the jungle, I feel like it seems pretty true and modern. He was pretty Q spam before. You can build on hit, its just bad because of the way the jungle is. Thats not the champ thats the jungle. He built SV & IBG before. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On January 27 2017 10:02 Reson wrote: I see. Guess it was just a bit weird to me that you cant choose direction. Any word on replays? Also, do people not use the target info box? Isnt it being in the top left really out of the way? Google is telling me that it hasnt always been there. Do people not need it because they know all the effects of the items so they can just calculate from the tab interface? The info seems pretty critical to me. I use the info box to see what runes they are running, I'm too lazy to use op.gg to see. Knowing their exact number of resists and CDR (particular important in botlane) is quite handy too. | ||
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