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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
February 03 2017 19:48 GMT
#161
The difference there is that WW is (I think) designed by Riot to be a jungler and old Poppy was meant to be a toplaner. Also one is serious and the other one was basically a meme pick, although at this point maybe they both are.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-03 21:51:00
February 03 2017 21:03 GMT
#162
so far i lost few frustrating games but also hard carried on ww, i think hes way better than pre rework and 20x times more fun, pretty sure if then nerf some of the bullshit junglers like kha,rengar we will see more of him in lcs
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 03 2017 21:49 GMT
#163
On February 04 2017 04:27 iCanada wrote:
So wait.. you hate ww for a slow clear and having to build an item that's good on him but you liked old Poppy jungle?

That's kind of like hating rabbits because they stink and owning a guinea pig.

To be fair the jungle was very different. Old Poppy doing modern raptors sounds like literally the worst thing ever.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 03 2017 22:02 GMT
#164
On February 04 2017 04:27 iCanada wrote:
So wait.. you hate ww for a slow clear and having to build an item that's good on him but you liked old Poppy jungle?

That's kind of like hating rabbits because they stink and owning a guinea pig.

Shockingly enough people can play champs for reasons other than "its really strong".
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-03 22:19:02
February 03 2017 22:07 GMT
#165
WWe actually doesn't mind Kha. WW is one of the only junglers in the game that doesn't just die to him 1v1 pre6.

Hardest thing on Warwick is getting into the game. Once he has Tiamat he is quite strong as long as you aren't significantly behind. Getting there even means either cheese other jungler and delaying, getting a successful gank (very very easy if a nearby land gets chunked to 50%), or having a strong priority mid.

You're like 15s behind a champion like Vi / Kha, which hurts. But you also beat almost all junglers 1v1, so it's easy to cheese. I like to play him like Gragas until I have Tiamat (hey were both gunna be poor and neither of us get creeps but it's k because I'll be tanky and have engage threat) then transition to playing him like Rek'Sai once you have Tiamat (fuck you ima fight and take all your shit, you gonna be poor).

After first clear you're totally fine, and in most cases quite strong. Basically you just need one early lane bully on your team in the ilks of Pantheon / Jayce / Taliyah and it's a totally viable pick.

On February 04 2017 07:02 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2017 04:27 iCanada wrote:
So wait.. you hate ww for a slow clear and having to build an item that's good on him but you liked old Poppy jungle?

That's kind of like hating rabbits because they stink and owning a guinea pig.

Shockingly enough people can play champs for reasons other than "its really strong".


My point was he doesn't dislike WW because he's slow, he dislikes WW because it's not old WW. Which is fine.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 03 2017 22:45 GMT
#166
old poppy would actually demolish this new jungle if you dont touch raptors. you basically 2 shot the big camps, it was doing the smalls on all the camps that was annoying. Krugs would also be a pain but besides that you rip through scuttle/buffs/gromp/wolves
I come in for the scraps
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 04 2017 00:08 GMT
#167
I just played a game with a few of my friends (5 man queue), and one of them had fill as their role. As a result, two of us had the role jungle xD
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I don't know how this happened, but i thought it was pretty funny
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
February 04 2017 02:33 GMT
#168
did u double jungle for the lulz or 1 went top
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 04 2017 14:45 GMT
#169
On February 04 2017 11:33 St3MoR wrote:
did u double jungle for the lulz or 1 went top
nah, one top.

Funnily though, the game after we forgot smite, so in a sense we made up for it by having 'no' jungler the next game..
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-05 16:21:56
February 05 2017 16:21 GMT
#170
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 05 2017 22:55 GMT
#171
On February 06 2017 01:21 JimmiC wrote:
I watched some of the SKT game 2 because they picked singed. And wow is commentary bad. I know lots of people complain about various regions but I think almost all of them do a decent job but this was TERRIBAD. The color guy not only had a awful voice but provides no analysis, not ever wrong analysis just none. He just also does play by play, just boring and obvious shit. Occasionally on replays he might do a minor bit but zero insight, nothing that everyone doesn't see.

I'm not sure who decided to put the worst color guy on the region with the best players but man that guy needs some help I don't think he even understands his job. On top of that he has a terrible voice for broadcasting. Just overall terrible.

Haha. Welcome to the confusing world of why people pay attention to LastShadow.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
February 06 2017 10:49 GMT
#172
On February 06 2017 01:21 JimmiC wrote:
I watched some of the SKT game 2 because they picked singed. And wow is commentary bad. I know lots of people complain about various regions but I think almost all of them do a decent job but this was TERRIBAD. The color guy not only had a awful voice but provides no analysis, not ever wrong analysis just none. He just also does play by play, just boring and obvious shit. Occasionally on replays he might do a minor bit but zero insight, nothing that everyone doesn't see.

I'm not sure who decided to put the worst color guy on the region with the best players but man that guy needs some help I don't think he even understands his job. On top of that he has a terrible voice for broadcasting. Just overall terrible.


I find he does some terrible analysis. Usually when a teamfight is breaking out. And he'll talk over the other caster who wants to cast the teamfight to talk very slowly about something really boring and irrelevant.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
February 06 2017 10:55 GMT
#173
LS has made a living off being terrible for what, 5 years now? Pretty impressive.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 06 2017 14:08 GMT
#174
its called being controversial, the mantra of even bad press is good press has worked for people forever.
I come in for the scraps
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 06 2017 14:11 GMT
#175
I feel bad for Valdez, because I'd like to hear him cast but I end up just watching OGN's Korean stream instead.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-06 15:03:08
February 06 2017 14:53 GMT
#176
On another note, Faker will be streaming on twitch in probably 10 (?) minutes. Stream hasn't started yet, and is already at 30k viewers.

I heard something about that skt partnered with twitch or something.

Edit: 140k lol
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 06 2017 14:54 GMT
#177
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-06 15:48:49
February 06 2017 15:47 GMT
#178
On February 06 2017 23:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
its called being controversial, the mantra of even bad press is good press has worked for people forever.

I don't think that's the case. I think that's true for Skip Bayless and in the League world, MonteCristo, but LS has a huge fanbase slobbering on his olive-skinned cock on Reddit. Even though he's demonstrably wrong most of the time!

Like the time he and I got into an argument over whether Infernal was better on AP mids or ADCs. The answer is obviously for ADCs if you give it more than 10 seconds of thought, but he was stubborn and insisted Infernal added like 100 damage to Syndra's burst combo. I told him no way. He linked me a video where Syndra got a kill because Infernal did 30 more damage, and posted it showing how he "shut down yet another Reddit analyst" and everyone was like YEAH YOU TOLD HIM GOOD. Meanwhile I'm like ... but isn't that exactly what I said?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
February 06 2017 16:23 GMT
#179
On February 07 2017 00:47 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2017 23:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
its called being controversial, the mantra of even bad press is good press has worked for people forever.

I don't think that's the case. I think that's true for Skip Bayless and in the League world, MonteCristo, but LS has a huge fanbase slobbering on his olive-skinned cock on Reddit. Even though he's demonstrably wrong most of the time!

Like the time he and I got into an argument over whether Infernal was better on AP mids or ADCs. The answer is obviously for ADCs if you give it more than 10 seconds of thought, but he was stubborn and insisted Infernal added like 100 damage to Syndra's burst combo. I told him no way. He linked me a video where Syndra got a kill because Infernal did 30 more damage, and posted it showing how he "shut down yet another Reddit analyst" and everyone was like YEAH YOU TOLD HIM GOOD. Meanwhile I'm like ... but isn't that exactly what I said?


Is that the one where Zierene chimed in about the combo?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 06 2017 16:26 GMT
#180
LS is on TV therefore he is always right.

If you were ever right you'd be on TV. Duh. Also why all these scientists need to shut up about global warming; of they were right they'd be on shitty day time TV with the people telling us it's a Chinese communist conspiracy to topple capitalism.
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