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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
With such a shitty Q the rest of his kit really needs to do work, so hes gone through the infinite root stage, the super damage burst, the tanky bursts, etc. Q needs an identity if they are going to keep it as his bread and butter spell. I mean, his E is an atrocity of a skill as well. Its just like, "oh, right, better press E it does...something"! | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 29 2016 21:02 Jek wrote: Has there ever been a champion with lower win ratio than the new Ryze? ~38% average is pretty extreme considering the second lowest is Aatrox sitting at ~46% Release Taliyah was in the low 30s, I believe. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 29 2016 21:02 Jek wrote: Has there ever been a champion with lower win ratio than the new Ryze? ~38% average is pretty extreme considering the second lowest is Aatrox sitting at ~46% Azir was 34% at one point and nidalee/gragas had <38 just after their reworks. | ||
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kongoline
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On July 30 2016 08:40 IamPryda wrote: Ryze win percentage will always be lower then average due to the fact he takes a good chunk of games to be anything but absolute shit on. I like to see what type of win rates he has on people with 50 plus games on since the rework Ryze was referred to as the face roll champ for so long with his initial version. I smile when I read about his complex kit now. Actually I'd prefer the original Ryze. It could have been made to work. Maybe a bit of power out of the offense and embrace him building tanky mana mage. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
I think if they dumped his stupid ult for some form of utility (like, an MS boost???????) he'd be in a lot better shape. He actually does quite a lot of damage right now, although his button mashing has gotten harder since you need to think about whether you want the longer root or AoE dmg (actually like that they moved that part of his ult to his basic abilities). But that doesn't matter if the only way he can get to you is by flanking or running ghost. Actually I'd prefer the original Ryze. It could have been made to work. Maybe a bit of power out of the offense and embrace him building tanky mana mage. I too think the first Ryze (that's the S2 one right?) was best Ryze. But Riot thought the only way they could balance him was by making his Q a skill shot for outplay potential. But this Ryze is better than the one before, except for the dumb ult. His basic abilities are far more interactive now. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Not exactly fine either. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Rework with skillshot was dumb. I knew somebody in bronze who couldn't CS, had horrific map awareness and decisionmaking, but every few games on Ryze he would manage to just combo the other guy at level 3-5 simply because he practiced that combo in customs for a long time. You put pressure on him and he panics, you harass him and he panics, but severely misposition and he can combo you from 100% without letting the snare drop. Not really any counter play available. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
As an aside, competitively, shouldn't "the worse" team just pick Jihn every game? Preferably with other ways to fillow up on picks like Karma, Leblanc, Ahri, etc? I almost never see the "better" team lose without getting picked a lot (almost always by Jihn) or getting the weird extended turnarounds (usually with a TP) that only curtain call can create. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I was bored and decided to make this calculator to predict the result of an ARAM game using the champions selected. Does anyone want to test it for me? I am particularly worried about the coverage of HTML5-supported browsers. http://www.manaless.com/2016/07/predicting-aram-outcome-based-only-on.html Cheers, | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:01 Sufficiency wrote: Hi, I was bored and decided to make this calculator to predict the result of an ARAM game using the champions selected. Does anyone want to test it for me? I am particularly worried about the coverage of HTML5-supported browsers. http://www.manaless.com/2016/07/predicting-aram-outcome-based-only-on.html Cheers, Given that you only see the champs after the game starts, maybe it makes sense to make it an API call based on your summoner name instead of having to manually input the champs? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:30 GrandInquisitor wrote: Given that you only see the champs after the game starts, maybe it makes sense to make it an API call based on your summoner name instead of having to manually input the champs? Like you have said, I can't get the list of champions in a game until the game starts. Once that happens, I can no longer dodge the ARAM... making it sort of pointless. But I do agree with you that manually entering 10 text boxes is annoying and largely impractical. An additional consideration is that if I do it after the game starts, I know who the 10 players are, so I can incorporate the ranking and/or mastery information of each player into my model... | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
Additionally with two teams you should be able to code a single champion as 0,1,-1 for "not present", "blue", red" on a single variable. Which should also iirc fix your rank deficiency issue. The enemy team won't matter in the long run to dodging except insomuch as your tool modifies what is played so just going to the one team is probably ideal even if it's less accuracy in the model Edit: it's been quite a while since I've done any work in that area so I could be way off base. Also not sure if your models have input requirements with regards to a trinary structure. (Red side/blue side effect should be the same so it should work fine) . On July 31 2016 08:44 GrandInquisitor wrote: If I remember correctly, original Ryze was OK for a long time until various meta changes and people waking up led to the realization that he was a total terror top lane. Once that happened they had to Olaf him while they tried to figure out how to rework him. He was simultaneously a lane bully but also a hyperscaler, which was completely obnoxious. Original ryze was on/off strong. He left the meta when banshees (and something else iirc) lost mana. He came back with tear and roa buffs. (Mainly). Which is what caused him to be reworked. | ||
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