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[Patch 6.15] Corki Worlds Buff General Discussion - Page 2

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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
July 26 2016 18:46 GMT
#21
It's like a triple infernal Elder Dragon only for AP casters, though? A triple infernal Elder Dragon gives you +36% AP instead of +24% and lasts thirty seconds longer than blue buff. For an AP champ +15% AP on a 1:30 buff that's way easier to take makes blue nearly as valuable as triple infernal Elder, not to mention the 10% CDR and unlimited mana regen.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 26 2016 23:09 GMT
#22
Fixed a bug where the stun on Rammus's Q - Powerball was lasting longer than intended


No wonder even his early ganks without too many pts in E are still killer. I wonder how much longer that was, even .25s is quite a lot.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 26 2016 23:41 GMT
#23
On July 27 2016 08:09 Zess wrote:
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Fixed a bug where the stun on Rammus's Q - Powerball was lasting longer than intended


No wonder even his early ganks without too many pts in E are still killer. I wonder how much longer that was, even .25s is quite a lot.


I must have been really behind, I always thought it was just 0.75s knockup/back
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 26 2016 23:48 GMT
#24
On July 27 2016 08:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 08:09 Zess wrote:
Fixed a bug where the stun on Rammus's Q - Powerball was lasting longer than intended


No wonder even his early ganks without too many pts in E are still killer. I wonder how much longer that was, even .25s is quite a lot.


I must have been really behind, I always thought it was just 0.75s knockup/back

Apparently at some point riot broke it and it was higher, but can't find any sources on how much higher that was so probably wasn't user reported.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8937 Posts
July 27 2016 02:08 GMT
#25
On July 27 2016 01:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I'm not crazy, here, right? I feel like I am usually the only person in my games that realizes that blue buff gives +15% AP. A few games ago, playing Sejuani, I had to practically beg our Katarina to take the 30 minute blue buff.

funny, my last ranked game i was ahri and i was begging my sej to give me a blue buff.
nope, he last hit every blue with smite the entire game. too bad he couldnt do the same for 1 infernal dragon and 2 barons that got stolen by the enemy lee
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 27 2016 05:58 GMT
#26
On July 26 2016 08:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
corki buff seems like another step towards league of long range engage/ semi globals

See new champ ult as well.
Coldbolt
Profile Joined April 2015
United Kingdom70 Posts
July 27 2016 14:18 GMT
#27
I've felt the nerf with Shen. He doesn't sustain as well. It's a small nerf but one that has made matchups where it's about skill, learn to the other champion now.
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MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
July 28 2016 12:23 GMT
#28
Nothing like getting connection issue in your placements on a smurf so you have to now fight through toxic low elo :<

This is giving me a chance to see though and why is it people in low gold and below seem to have no idea what to do past laning. Do you think there is a lack of educational stuff in lol for post lane? In sc2 say you know once you BO is done you will want to take more bases or tech up. In fps I don't think phases are as defined. In lol people just mill around not doing anything or just go to the lane they started in and push it till something happens. Basic idea of sticking as 4/5 and moving forward is totally alien .
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
July 28 2016 13:12 GMT
#29
It's hard to tell but I think the biggest difference between low gold and mid plat is that plats are better at playing from behind and map (gank) awareness. I didn't notice any big changes past laning phase, we just play aram until dragon or baron becomes an option. It's hard to get your team to siege side lane towers but it's like that on all levels I played on.

I don't think you can fix that with education, Most players play intuitively and don't do any research about the game. You can't force them to learn.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 28 2016 15:14 GMT
#30
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General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
July 28 2016 16:16 GMT
#31
So. New champ now has abilities posted. Any early thoughts?

Seems like they went out of the way to make him not work in the jungle by having courage not work on large monsters. Also seems clearly not mid or adc material. Looks like they want him too but he might not be the worst support. Has a grab/hook, a late game utility ability that doesn't require gold, and the courage mechanic might bring a lot of sustain if you fight till the guy runs away, then wait and all in with your adc to get the mount and its health back.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 28 2016 20:44 GMT
#32
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IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
July 28 2016 21:07 GMT
#33
i thought if u give up kills u cant remake game?
Moar banelings less qq
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 28 2016 22:23 GMT
#34
On July 28 2016 21:23 MuddyJam wrote:
Nothing like getting connection issue in your placements on a smurf so you have to now fight through toxic low elo :<

This is giving me a chance to see though and why is it people in low gold and below seem to have no idea what to do past laning. Do you think there is a lack of educational stuff in lol for post lane? In sc2 say you know once you BO is done you will want to take more bases or tech up. In fps I don't think phases are as defined. In lol people just mill around not doing anything or just go to the lane they started in and push it till something happens. Basic idea of sticking as 4/5 and moving forward is totally alien .


Its three fold

1) You spend a lot less time post lane than in lane. So people tend to learn and get better at laning a lot faster. Even when you don't have a "win lane win game" the laning phase will often take up a significant chunk of the game. So people play it a lot more.

2) There isn't as good a feedback mechanism for post-lane play. When you're in lane everything is almost always your fault, whether that is getting ganked, or not following through on one. And figuring out the solution to this is usually pretty simple since the cause and effect are close together and the actions very discrete.

But after lane its a lot harder to determine why you didn't win or why something went poorly. Should you have followed your AD or should your AD have followed you? What objectives do you go to and why? These rarely have clear answers that follow directly from cause to effect. Its hard to see why you should be sieging bottom tower when no objectives are open as opposed mid lane or top lane... or farming. The loss that can follow from that is often disconnected from the action. You lose a team fight later in the game at dragon and the lost team fight is the loss creator and not the failure to act when you had a lead.

3) There are coordination problems inherent in any game where people aren't on consistent teams and/or on voice coms. Teams can have strategies but this requires everyone on the team to be on the same page. 5 Individual strategy ideas means that none of them get executed. It often takes only one player not on the same page in order to wreck a strategy.

Because of this "follow the team" is often a very good strategy and may people use it. But "follow the team" doesn't have a coherent direction unless someone can take control and lead it. This is sometimes for reasonable reasons sometimes for not. If no one is leading then "follow the team" tends to just congregate at map points rather than going and doing.

So basically its practice, feedback, and (lack of) shot callers.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 29 2016 01:09 GMT
#35
On July 27 2016 01:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I'm not crazy, here, right? I feel like I am usually the only person in my games that realizes that blue buff gives +15% AP. A few games ago, playing Sejuani, I had to practically beg our Katarina to take the 30 minute blue buff.

i don't think it's worth having if you have any other mana/cd dependent characters on your team.
the primary purpose of the buff is still those 2 things which kat needs neither of
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 29 2016 12:02 GMT
#36
Has there ever been a champion with lower win ratio than the new Ryze? ~38% average is pretty extreme considering the second lowest is Aatrox sitting at ~46%
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Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 29 2016 12:14 GMT
#37
The real miracle is that Ryze not only has the lowest winrate but he also has an absurdly high banrate. On the other end, Sona has an absurd winrate but still has a banrate below 10%.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 29 2016 13:14 GMT
#38
People probably dont want to risk having him on their team. :^)
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 29 2016 18:38 GMT
#39
On July 29 2016 21:02 Jek wrote:
Has there ever been a champion with lower win ratio than the new Ryze? ~38% average is pretty extreme considering the second lowest is Aatrox sitting at ~46%


Urgot? Didn't Leblanc get close to that win rate as well for a while? And Yasuo?Also from my searching, Azir right now has a similar or even lower winrate depending on region and league.

Personally when I tried the new Ryze he seemed like a really fun champion (also great VU, his animations are fantastic), but the lack of utility that his ultimate gave him hit very hard. His ultimate is near useless lv 1, and he kind of needed that MS boost and spellvamp (although the new range on his Q means it's near impossible to harass him out of lane).
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
July 29 2016 20:34 GMT
#40
On July 29 2016 21:02 Jek wrote:
Has there ever been a champion with lower win ratio than the new Ryze? ~38% average is pretty extreme considering the second lowest is Aatrox sitting at ~46%

Release Syndra I think? Maybe Kassadin at some point during the endless nerfs?
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