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PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

March 11 2016 17:37 GMT

#81

On March 12 2016 02:24 Slayer91 wrote:
i dont want j4 to be a jungler either, his ganks are toxic in solo q because you can't ever use flash to be a man because you're just dead to any j4 gank

I agree with this, except that i think flash CD should be lower, or at least significantly lower by option.

kongoline

6318 Posts

March 11 2016 17:45 GMT

#82

people forget fast how cancer is j4 when hes top tier jungler, his ganks are way too strong to have healthy first clear

[DUF]MethodMan

Germany1716 Posts

March 11 2016 18:56 GMT

#83

Not talking about the first clear, all his clear is shit. I was ahead in this game and still fell behind pretty hard when I'd farm for just a minute and not gank. Also I think you forgot how the knockup isn't exactly what it used to be, you can juke it rather easily now imho.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

March 11 2016 19:50 GMT

#84

I mean people are playing liss right now and that match up is free as fuck

JALbert

United States484 Posts

March 11 2016 19:59 GMT

#85

On March 12 2016 04:50 Slusher wrote:
I mean people are playing liss right now and that match up is free as fuck

Why so?

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

March 11 2016 20:57 GMT

#86

lvl2-5 if you hit e q it forces a flash or if she tries to wait for claw she'll burn all of her sustain.

post 6 it's probably not as bad as it used to be since she heals so much, but perviously you just tanked her ult after you combo her and she'd die from 1 or 2 autos. I haven't played lane j4 since lw got removed but in this particular match up new maw+tlords probably makes up for it

Frolossus

United States4779 Posts

March 11 2016 21:07 GMT

#87

j4 is squishy enough atm that if he ults you, you just kill him.
kinda like shaco

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

March 11 2016 21:17 GMT

#88

Lane 4 will kill you if he ults you and you're not a super tank

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

March 11 2016 21:36 GMT

#89

On March 12 2016 02:45 kongoline wrote:
people forget fast how cancer is j4 when hes top tier jungler, his ganks are way too strong to have healthy first clear

If you think J4 jungle is "cancer" when top tier, I have no idea what sort of epithets you have for lane Jarvan. IMO Jarvan is their best designed early-game oriented jungler. Much less idiot than things like Elise and Lee who can use a gapcloser before casting their important skillshot, and half the time kill you even when they miss their skillshot.

On the other hand, Lane Jarvan: Is anything more dominant (when it is) yet more useless (when its not)?

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

March 11 2016 22:34 GMT

#90

On March 12 2016 06:36 cLutZ wrote:
On the other hand, Lane Jarvan: Is anything more dominant (when it is) yet more useless (when its not)?

Shaco comes to mind, though counterjungling in general has that effect.

justiceknight

Singapore5741 Posts

March 13 2016 10:04 GMT

#91

did any1 watched ROX tigers vs samsung? OGN posted an incident about it and I was wondering if thats recorded in the VOD

+ Show Spoiler +

3월 13일 방송 경기 화면 송출 사고에 대해 사과 드립니다.

LoL 팬과 시청자 여러분께 사과드립니다.
3월 12일(토) 방송된 <LoL 챔피언스 코리아 스프링 2016> 삼성과 락스 타이거즈 경기 중 발생한 게임 화면 오류와 관련해 방송 스탭의 잘못으로 사고가 발생했습니다.
OGN은 해당 경기 제작진에 경위를 파악한 결과, 담당 옵저버 1명이 경기 진행 중 개인 USB 파일 전송을 시도하며 연출에 영향을 미친 것으로 드러났습니다.
관련해서 해당 옵저버는 차주 회사 내부 협의와 절차를 거쳐 책임을 물을 예정이며, 게임 연출팀 및 제작 책임자에게도 내부 관리 소홀에 따른 조치를 취하겠습니다.
또한 향후 재발 방지를 위한 내부 소양 교육 및 보안 강화에 최선을 다하겠습니다.
원활한 게임 화면을 LoL 팬과 시청자 여러분께 제공해 드리지 못 한 점 거듭 사과 말씀 드립니다.

2016년 3월 13일

crate

United States2474 Posts

March 13 2016 10:25 GMT

#92

+ Show Spoiler +

It's in the vod, at 1:43 into game 3 the observer PC had some software popup interrupt the game stream for a bit

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

March 13 2016 12:20 GMT

#93

Software popup? They were moving illegaly downloaded program/movie to USB memory iirc. And the popup was that there is not enough space on USB >.<

kongoline

6318 Posts

March 13 2016 12:46 GMT

#94

i dont get why rumble has 42% winrate for top atm i really dont think hes that bad now, i started to main him again for the past 2 weeks mostly in jungle but when i get top i usually play him too last couple days i played against naut a lot imo this is very easy matchup i crush enemy laner most of the time (which is big considering i rarely beat naut on other champs) meanwhile champion.gg shows rumble worst matchup is naut with 37% winrate, wtf is going on

Prog

United Kingdom1470 Posts

March 13 2016 12:52 GMT

#95

What do you do against banner/zzrot naut as rumble?

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

March 13 2016 13:33 GMT

#96

Cuz he sucks at top. All of the popular tops shit on him straight up. Except malphite. He is in a good place in the jungle though.

kongoline

6318 Posts

March 13 2016 13:42 GMT

#97

zzrot/banner just means i cant push his turrets i still have advantage in lane and can easily outperform him in team fights,i also rush abyssal then liandry and rylai he can never fight me 1v1, maybe i just face terrible naut players but this champion is retard proof so even if they are bad they do good vs other champions not when i play rumble tho

Prog

United Kingdom1470 Posts

March 13 2016 15:17 GMT

#98

I just had the banner/zzrot naut vs rumble situation in a soloq game. Rumble could not do anything and their team had no way to get control of sidewaves. Even though it's just a single game, I don't see how Rumble can handle this.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

March 13 2016 17:01 GMT

#99

On March 14 2016 00:17 Prog wrote:
I just had the banner/zzrot naut vs rumble situation in a soloq game. Rumble could not do anything and their team had no way to get control of sidewaves. Even though it's just a single game, I don't see how Rumble can handle this.

Banner + Zz'rot is honestly cancer against any champion.