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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 09 2016 18:02 GMT
#41
Now that Sivir is meta again, how long until Olaf becomes meta?
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 09 2016 20:32 GMT
#42
Well, I've already been playing Olaf so I'm a bit ahead of the curve if he ever does become meta
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
March 09 2016 20:39 GMT
#43
On March 09 2016 23:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
I want to solo lane her now. 50 mana kite spell that heals you? on spammable cd. nice.


Curious how this goes. I still don't think it looks that good, but solo old Soraka was underestimated way too much as well.
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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
March 09 2016 21:27 GMT
#44
Aurelion's passive proc's spell abilities correct? I am guessing Rylai's is a good fit for him along with Liandry's?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 21:48:29
March 09 2016 21:48 GMT
#45
On March 10 2016 06:27 lilwisper wrote:
Aurelion's passive proc's spell abilities correct? I am guessing Rylai's is a good fit for him along with Liandry's?

Yup, if his numbers work right.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 22:34:34
March 09 2016 22:34 GMT
#46
On March 10 2016 05:39 JALbert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 23:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
I want to solo lane her now. 50 mana kite spell that heals you? on spammable cd. nice.


Curious how this goes. I still don't think it looks that good, but solo old Soraka was underestimated way too much as well.


she was underestimated until they mad nerfed her

the old strat was just run at enemies spamming starcall
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 09 2016 23:37 GMT
#47
On March 10 2016 07:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 05:39 JALbert wrote:
On March 09 2016 23:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
I want to solo lane her now. 50 mana kite spell that heals you? on spammable cd. nice.


Curious how this goes. I still don't think it looks that good, but solo old Soraka was underestimated way too much as well.


she was underestimated until they mad nerfed her

the old strat was just run at enemies spamming starcall


Dont forget silencing someone while you do that.
Freeeeeeedom
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 09 2016 23:40 GMT
#48
On March 10 2016 08:37 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 07:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On March 10 2016 05:39 JALbert wrote:
On March 09 2016 23:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
I want to solo lane her now. 50 mana kite spell that heals you? on spammable cd. nice.


Curious how this goes. I still don't think it looks that good, but solo old Soraka was underestimated way too much as well.


she was underestimated until they mad nerfed her

the old strat was just run at enemies spamming starcall


Dont forget silencing someone while you do that.

That's if they didn't trade back and you had to give yourself mana to heal yourself. E on CD always, either mana fountain self, or damage enemy
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 09 2016 23:47 GMT
#49
oh, and her w gave armor so even your autos didnt do anything if she silenced you
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 23:49:15
March 09 2016 23:48 GMT
#50
Soraka couldn't self cast as far back as the Naut patch. She did her Starcall spam midlane/top thing long after that.

Edit: For mana
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 10 2016 02:52 GMT
#51
On March 10 2016 08:48 cLutZ wrote:
Soraka couldn't self cast as far back as the Naut patch. She did her Starcall spam midlane/top thing long after that.

Edit: For mana

Man I've been around for so long that it all melds together. All the hilarious and broken stuff I've seen lol.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
March 10 2016 02:58 GMT
#52
Man Jin Air is playing some damn good League of Legends lately. I wonder how they'll disappoint me this time
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 10 2016 04:16 GMT
#53
On March 10 2016 03:02 Gahlo wrote:
Now that Sivir is meta again, how long until Olaf becomes meta?

maokai's getting pbe buffs... we season 5 again boys
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 10 2016 04:31 GMT
#54
On March 10 2016 11:58 MattBarry wrote:
Man Jin Air is playing some damn good League of Legends lately. I wonder how they'll disappoint me this time

And KT is playing some shit League.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
March 10 2016 10:32 GMT
#55
On March 09 2016 15:23 Purge wrote:
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On March 09 2016 15:05 Ketara wrote:
Wait are people playing Lux?!?


Lux is the 9th most picked champion in the game She's super popular, mostly because all he preseason changes made her the best generalist pick in the game (lowest risk, highest return) outside of maybe Kalista (or on 5.4 Sivir). She sees tons of play in pro circuits too (for lux ofc).

Again not sure if serious, I thought you already knew this, you being the Lux expert and all.

Shes also statstically the best midlane pick in the game according champion.gg

Can you elaborate on this? Lux has always been a low risk/high return champion (at least since her mana adjustments way back). If you want to finish a game with the best kda (lose or win, doesn't matter), just pick Lux. She's been in the top among safest picks for a long, long time, yet her competitive presence was close to none.

What pre-season change made her suddenly relevant? We had almost the exact same split-push meta once, or maybe more than once, and no one even looked at Lux then. Popularity of certain mid laners is often put in correlation with the state of the assassins, but Lux was nowhere when assassins dominated, and still nowhere when they all got nerfed. The biggest changes in the pre-season were for marksmen (which should have zero impact on Lux's popularity), increasing the cost of every ap item (which affected every non-ad midlaner), the introduction of the Rift Herald (again, irrelevant in her case) and the fuckery with the death timers (affects everyone) and turret hp. Yes, the latter does make lane control midlaners more preferable, but as I said, we've seen this meta before.

I'm just "triggered" every time a champion without any changes breaks into competitive play, and everyone is an expert why is it ""obvious"" he or she is in the meta AFTER it already happened. Reminds me of the likes of Xerath or Zilean, which came from soloq and within a week they were pick/ban worthy in almost every region. Then suddenly every people became an analyst: "oh yeah, he has great waveclear, makes perfect sense!!" - please, if those people were asked 2 weeks earlier about why those champs were not played competitively, the average answer would've been "lel cuz they suck XDD lcs is not soloq bro".

Whatever, rant over - I know it is an unbreakable cycle, but had to get it off my chest.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 10:49:20
March 10 2016 10:42 GMT
#56
they buffed her like 2 patches in row and nerfed everything else, same reason velkoz is pretty good now
ps. not that i think shes op imo most ap champs suck right now cuz maw is broken
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 10 2016 10:57 GMT
#57
Lux was already super strong before the buffs and she then got some (people called her a low damage mage for the longest time because she doesn't have LB's ratios, but she's all AoE and has ridiculous base numbers when you factor in her passive, especially on her ult and shield).

Making marksmen stronger and more important helps since, even if she's not an assassin, she can 100-0 them whenever she hits a binding. Even better when you've got two of them per game since that's even more opportunities to be impactful.
The focus is on objectives, which helps control mages like her, since she's strong both at zone control and at poking (compare to Orianna, good zone control, but not much range to poke). She sieges very well, pushes rather fast and safely, and if need be can ult to nuke a wave and stall splitpush.

Just because she wasn't the best fit in the meta or the most popular champion doesn't mean she wasn't super strong in a vacuum. But she hasn't had dominant periods so pros wouldn't consider her as easily (they'll detect a meta switch favoring Zed, Ahri or Azir much faster, and will be more willing to act upon it too), and she somehow had the stigmata of being "low damage" for so long.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 10 2016 11:01 GMT
#58
Lux had some small buffs in last 2 patches like kongoline said.

First of all, on her W cast, she shield herself immediately.
E slow radius is larger 300 => 350
You can re-cast E on flight to immediately detonate on arrival
Her Q got slight mana buffs 50/60/70/80/90 mana ⇒ 50/55/60/65/70 mana + it deals 100% damage and root to the secondary target as well
They fixed bug with her ult/passive where triggering Illumination with Final Spark didn't add Illumination's AP ratio to the detonation
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 11:46:59
March 10 2016 11:45 GMT
#59
Yeah she was buffed several patches in a row, other mids were nerfed, preseason changes were very good for her, and then she was the highest winrate mid laner for several months with nobody picking her in progames.

I just didn't know she was being played in competitive now, been too busy to pay attention to any of that and nobody posts in the Lux thread to let me know these things.

Shame on you guys. Shame.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
March 10 2016 11:53 GMT
#60
On March 10 2016 20:45 Ketara wrote:
Yeah she was buffed several patches in a row, other mids were nerfed, preseason changes were very good for her, and then she was the highest winrate mid laner for several months with nobody picking her in progames.

I just didn't know she was being played in competitive now, been too busy to pay attention to any of that and nobody posts in the Lux thread to let me know these things.

Shame on you guys. Shame.

Except we did post and tell you...
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