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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On March 09 2016 16:15 dsyxelic wrote: hm maybe. I'd need to see the clear more optimized. atm that clear looks really slow. but at least hes healthy. but yeah i'd much rather jungle him if possible. 3:05 is decent, I think that's <10s compared to meta junglers Probably way faster when you actually get a leash because you can start W | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On March 09 2016 16:59 Inflicted wrote: 3:05 is decent, I think that's <10s compared to meta junglers Probably way faster when you actually get a leash because you can start W not at all. 3 camps 3:05? that's extremely slow. name me a meta jungler right now that does anything near that time for 3 camp clear without leash. maybe for 4 camp, but not 3 camp. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On March 09 2016 16:59 Inflicted wrote: 3:05 is decent, I think that's <10s compared to meta junglers Probably way faster when you actually get a leash because you can start W his W is a horrid jungle spell though. You can either auto attack, or you can run around leashing it with your really spread out orbs. For reference I did shyv in 2:49 doing the same path, and shyv speeds up immensely at level 3+. I also added in wraiths and cleared it in 3:02. That's 4 camps faster than you kill 3(wraiths added all of 13 seconds), and I suspect the difference grows massively from then on. While it is comparing one of the fastest junglers to one of the slower, it's an absolutely huge difference. Just a friendly reminder that just because you can jungle something, doesn't mean you should. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On March 09 2016 17:38 dsyxelic wrote: not at all. 3 camps 3:05? that's extremely slow. name me a meta jungler right now that does anything near that time for 3 camp clear without leash. maybe for 4 camp, but not 3 camp. Most gank-oriented junglers (Lee, Elise, Gragas, Rek'Sai) finish around 3:00. On March 09 2016 18:11 Amui wrote: his W is a horrid jungle spell though. You can either auto attack, or you can run around leashing it with your really spread out orbs. For reference I did shyv in 2:49 doing the same path, and shyv speeds up immensely at level 3+. I also added in wraiths and cleared it in 3:02. That's 4 camps faster than you kill 3(wraiths added all of 13 seconds), and I suspect the difference grows massively from then on. While it is comparing one of the fastest junglers to one of the slower, it's an absolutely huge difference. Just a friendly reminder that just because you can jungle something, doesn't mean you should. His W increase passive base damage though, which would make it slightly faster | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On March 09 2016 16:15 dsyxelic wrote: hm maybe. I'd need to see the clear more optimized. atm that clear looks really slow. but at least hes healthy. but yeah i'd much rather jungle him if possible. Stonewall pretty much 1 runs the stuff on PBE before doing the video, given the way the orbs work, you can speed up your jungle by orbiting the opposite direction around your jungle targets and not missing 4-5 attack timers a camp like he does. and that's without any trick based stuff like changing your clear order or leaving red buff at a certain amount of hp and expanding your passive range to kill it while you move to a different camp etc. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 09 2016 18:11 Amui wrote: his W is a horrid jungle spell though. You can either auto attack, or you can run around leashing it with your really spread out orbs. For reference I did shyv in 2:49 doing the same path, and shyv speeds up immensely at level 3+. I also added in wraiths and cleared it in 3:02. That's 4 camps faster than you kill 3(wraiths added all of 13 seconds), and I suspect the difference grows massively from then on. While it is comparing one of the fastest junglers to one of the slower, it's an absolutely huge difference. Just a friendly reminder that just because you can jungle something, doesn't mean you should. Doesn't matter much because by the time he comes out Shyv is going to get wrecked by nerfs. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Right now he looks like hes in a weird not optimal jungle or top laner but after buffs im sure he'll fit into one of the two. All I know is that rylai/liandry combo will be core on him and I dont know how reliably you can get that from the jungle. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On March 09 2016 19:30 Inflicted wrote: Most gank-oriented junglers (Lee, Elise, Gragas, Rek'Sai) finish around 3:00. His W increase passive base damage though, which would make it slightly faster No way lol. For 4 camps maybe? How do you clear only 3 camps by 3:00 on those champs. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On March 10 2016 00:07 739 wrote: Since when Jhin is op ? have you not seen him in competitive recently? Hes retarded ever since his ult and DFT interacts the way it does. In capable hands he is a sieging/catch monster 2 of the most valuable things in the meta atm. and if you dont care about pro play, hes still sporting a 12% pickrate as a new champion with over 50% winrate which is pretty damn telling. On a role with not many outliers mind you | ||
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kongoline
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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