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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 06 2016 13:28 GMT
#221
On March 06 2016 22:16 Numy wrote:

I'm talking about his perma slow q version where he was a real pick in competitive for awhile. Think I remember Cloudtemplar owning with him if that helps.

Yea Riot was a bit quick on pulling the trigger but I always feel they too quick. Especially when they introduce new items then gut the guys that use them the best only to gut the item later.

I also like the old morde. He was a bit silly but that style of mage can be fun to play every now and then. Sad they removed his potential as a mage to make this gimmick which understandably got gutted right away. Hell I liked the old Sion too. It was dumb as hell but fun to play mid lane.

I think riot just gets too invested in their new thing they want to protect it, making the adjustments they can to balance around new thing. then only touching new thing later or if it seriously seriously needs it.

nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 06 2016 13:49 GMT
#222
On March 06 2016 20:36 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 20:20 nafta wrote:
Both the old and new versions of those 4 champs suck. Old skarner is probably the closest to a good champion out of all 8.

I honestly don't care how the client looks as long as it works and doesn't go back to home page if someone dodges.

I think darius is fine. Better than before, and definitely does have a place. Maybe not competitive, but certainly viable. The rest just suck.

Garen - really binary. Combo's people who are villains, and is pretty bad outside of that.
Skarner - fucking destroys people when in zones, sucks outside of it.
Morde - Failure. Old morde didn't have any gimmicks and was arguably more viable than the current morde.

I shouldve used interesting rather than good. Those champs simply cant work properly in the current state in the game. To be viable they just need to be very overtuned or get a new item combo like udyr.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 06 2016 16:43 GMT
#223
On March 06 2016 20:10 Gahlo wrote:
If that's the new client, I'm not impressed.

what exactly are you hoping for?
the main thing is that it no longer runs on adobe air
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 06 2016 17:14 GMT
#224
On March 07 2016 01:43 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 20:10 Gahlo wrote:
If that's the new client, I'm not impressed.

what exactly are you hoping for?
the main thing is that it no longer runs on adobe air

Something that looks better.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 06 2016 18:19 GMT
#225
On March 07 2016 01:43 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 20:10 Gahlo wrote:
If that's the new client, I'm not impressed.

what exactly are you hoping for?
the main thing is that it no longer runs on adobe air

Actually I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Something something rumour never true something, someone else would have to find the source, but I've googled it in the past.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
March 06 2016 21:42 GMT
#226
They should have made morde similar to dota doom
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 07 2016 10:29 GMT
#227
On March 07 2016 01:43 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 20:10 Gahlo wrote:
If that's the new client, I'm not impressed.

what exactly are you hoping for?
the main thing is that it no longer runs on adobe air


Something that has clean delineations so that my eyes can tell the difference between the different sections of the UI
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 07 2016 11:20 GMT
#228
I don't have any problem with the current client other than it being so damn slow. Dunno if that's because good design or I just go used to it, but I can't remember ever having an issue with it.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 07 2016 19:18 GMT
#229
On March 07 2016 06:42 DiracMonopole wrote:
They should have made morde similar to dota doom


what i wouldn't give to have a Doom ability in this game vs some of these champions

silencer too
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 07 2016 19:28 GMT
#230
Wasnt doom just a spell that was useful if the enemy were a certain level but garbage otherwise?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 07 2016 19:30 GMT
#231
On March 08 2016 04:28 Osmoses wrote:
Wasnt doom just a spell that was useful if the enemy were a certain level but garbage otherwise?


that was lvl?death

Doom is the " curse that prevents an enemy Hero from casting spells or using items, while taking damage over time" for 15sec
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 07 2016 19:31 GMT
#232
On March 08 2016 04:28 Osmoses wrote:
Wasnt doom just a spell that was useful if the enemy were a certain level but garbage otherwise?


You are thinking of Lvl? Death. Doom is his ultimate that silences, burns, disables some passive abilities and disables item actives.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 07 2016 19:31 GMT
#233
That's Lv. ? Death which is a conditional stun.
Doom is "you can't use abilities nor items anymore, your passive abilities are disabled, and you take damage over time, for 10+ seconds."

Puts someone out of the fight.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 07 2016 19:45 GMT
#234
Sounds like a real fun skill for the other team to deal with. And completely useless against qss.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 19:49:56
March 07 2016 19:48 GMT
#235
On March 08 2016 04:45 Osmoses wrote:
Sounds like a real fun skill for the other team to deal with. And completely useless against qss.


It disables items so you wouldn't be able to qss it. That's one of the things that makes it so good. Completely locks down a hero.

I guess lotus orb puts it on the doom now? Haven't played as much dota since that item came in.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 07 2016 19:50 GMT
#236
Sounds like the textbook example of Riot's definition of "Anti-fun."
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 07 2016 19:56 GMT
#237
I'd have said so before they introduced Tahm and Bard lol. Now I don't even know anymore.

Doom is just one of those abilities that looks completely broken on paper but in practice it isn't as amazing. Well not amazing enough to make up for everything else about a hero sucking which was what happened for a long time with him. A lot of Dota stuff sounds crazy in theory but works alright in practice.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 07 2016 20:10 GMT
#238
I started queueing Top/Jungle because I love playing tanky characters and the queue times increased only to just get Jungle every time lol. Not that I mind, it's just a very different experience from Jungle/Bot and getting ADC about 50% of the time. One day I'll get Top lol.

I'm also so freaking confused when people who duo queue ask you (as a random) to swap roles. Like, why don't you two just queue for each other's roles and swap to ensure you both always get what you want instead of trying to inconvenience someone else? It's happened like 5 times lately and idgi
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 07 2016 20:13 GMT
#239
On March 08 2016 05:10 Requizen wrote:
I started queueing Top/Jungle because I love playing tanky characters and the queue times increased only to just get Jungle every time lol. Not that I mind, it's just a very different experience from Jungle/Bot and getting ADC about 50% of the time. One day I'll get Top lol.

I'm also so freaking confused when people who duo queue ask you (as a random) to swap roles. Like, why don't you two just queue for each other's roles and swap to ensure you both always get what you want instead of trying to inconvenience someone else? It's happened like 5 times lately and idgi

You always have to choose your group size +1.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 07 2016 20:14 GMT
#240
On March 08 2016 05:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 05:10 Requizen wrote:
I started queueing Top/Jungle because I love playing tanky characters and the queue times increased only to just get Jungle every time lol. Not that I mind, it's just a very different experience from Jungle/Bot and getting ADC about 50% of the time. One day I'll get Top lol.

I'm also so freaking confused when people who duo queue ask you (as a random) to swap roles. Like, why don't you two just queue for each other's roles and swap to ensure you both always get what you want instead of trying to inconvenience someone else? It's happened like 5 times lately and idgi

You always have to choose your group size +1.

Ooooh, I haven't queued with anyone yet so I didn't know that. Makes sense.
It's your boy Guzma!
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