EPT[Patch 6.4] Ammo for Everyone General Discussion - Page 14
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 09 2016 04:58 JimmiC wrote: Very cool patch. All those complaining about smurf leveling it will now take HALF as long that is a massive change. Hyped about those urgod buffs! oh bb. Now that it means level 30 smurf accounts are only half the cost now! On March 09 2016 05:02 Requizen wrote: Random Talon nerf. Was his ult really so OP? This is how it felt like to play against Talon when he's even or ahead. He tries to all in on you, either you die, or forced to back. He then shoves the wave into your turret. He backs, you come back, he has his ult again. Rinse, and repeat. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:00 Numy wrote: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/champion-reveal-aurelion-sol-star-forger New Champ. If someone posted already I'm sorry I missed it. edit: Kit looks like a jungler. Kind of sad about that. Thought he'd be an awesome control mage. Seems really odd to me. Like, you have one nuke as a mage (two if you count the ult) and the rest is positioning with the passive/W boosted passive? I wonder if he'll end up like a Swain type, build tanky and just try to stay in the fight and do area damage. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:16 VayneAuthority wrote: finally a buff to toxic players, now I can get sweatysejuaniassmuncher to level 30 in half the time. Will this be reflected in the price of buying accounts though? : p | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Fucking riot language man | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:14 Alaric wrote: Calling Sejuani ou Renekton generalists kinda made me want to skip the whole thing though. What a start. Of course, everyone knows Sej was just as good of a 1v1 duelist as she was a teamfight Tank & CC bot | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:36 Zess wrote: Someone explain to me how Renekton, who falls off pretty fast, is a "generalist" while Gragas, who is relevant the whole game through burst, cc, and tank steroids, is not. Fucking riot language man Because Renekton doesn't actually fall off in late game as much as people think. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:45 wei2coolman wrote: Because Renekton doesn't actually fall off in late game as much as people think. list 3 toplaners who scale worse | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
http://lolbuilder.net/Renekton look at winrate over time for diamond+ player. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:50 wei2coolman wrote: http://lolbuilder.net/Renekton look at winrate over time for diamond+ player. Diamond+ is a pretty small sample size though, isn't it? I wonder if that's just statistical noise or a few Renekton specialists messing with the curve. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:52 BrownBear wrote: Diamond+ is a pretty small sample size though, isn't it? I wonder if that's just statistical noise or a few Renekton specialists messing with the curve. If you follow the curve, there's 1000+games at the 35+min mark. Also, patches should be based on highest tier of play. Renekton specialists is where they should be looking at. At the top the page this is for games for patches 6.3 and 6.4. Overall, Renekton is in bad spot, no doubt, but he doesn't scale badly with time. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Lissandra, Bird lady, Pantheon, Teemo, Yorik? I could include more if we include "scaling worse" as being "worse at 40 minutes assuming the game is played correctly by both teams" then probably Illaoi, Garen, RekSai, Rengar, Rumble, and a few other borderline cases. The tricky thing about it is that there are a lot of champs that will be better than Renekton post 11, 2 items if its even money, even dragons, even levels, but that is not a realistic scenario (if the Renekton/Renekton team is not worse) so his falling off isn't really that bad until he hits 4/5 items, because he is typically ahead. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:50 wei2coolman wrote: http://lolbuilder.net/Renekton look at winrate over time for diamond+ player. doesnt prove anything its still 50% winrate with limited sample size, according to this site both gp and vlad have lower winrate in 40min ++ are u going to argue renekton scales better than them ? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 09 2016 06:04 kongoline wrote: doesnt prove anything its still 50% winrate with limited sample size, according to this site both gp and vlad have lower winrate in 40min ++ are u going to argue renekton scales better than them ? 1000+ games at diamond+ is limited sample size? it also has to do with comparison with average game length, and winrate trends in early game. with gp we see a clear winrate jump post 30min. so i don't see the point you're trying to make? vlad doesn't have enough lategame data, but we do tend to see a similar trend among all ranks that suggest lategame power. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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kongoline
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 09 2016 05:45 wei2coolman wrote: Because Renekton doesn't actually fall off in late game as much as people think. 'cause they kept buffing his lategame while nerfing the ealy 'cause they didn't like bullies or lopsided things. They're not gonna admit they're responsible though. | ||
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