EPTI really wish we got 1 role q already. It is fucking retarded how in every 1 out of 3 games our mid is whining he got mid...
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
I really wish we got 1 role q already. It is fucking retarded how in every 1 out of 3 games our mid is whining he got mid... | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
like bitch please we are covering every role except mid just give us a mid and be done with it. Why do we queue up as 4 only for our roles to be complete russian roulette? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 13 2016 03:29 JimmiC wrote: I think all the people complaining are pretty high ELO but not top of the top. Cause on the top streams they just all pick fill then sort it out in game just like before. Low plat and below it works fine. they do this because if you don't pick fill at Masters or challengers level you have 20-30 minute queues like when they implemented it intiialyl and people queue mid/bot and played 3 games in a single stream instead of the 8-10. the population isn't big enough for them to use this queue. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On February 13 2016 03:07 iCanada wrote: You're doing it wrong. Take mid and whatever you actually want to do. You'll get what you want 99/100. I know that, and if you are a fill player, then manually keep switching around top/mid, mid/top, jung/top, top/jung, mid/bot... etc., because that is what Fill supposed to be. But it isn't. Fill is only good right now if you are playing with at least one other person. Yesterday we both went fill for like 3 games and pretty much covered all roles together during those. But if you play alone... yeah, 11/11 just right now. Edit: and just now someone complaining that he can't play adc, but he went jung/bot in queue. What? Anyway, he failed to lock his champion in, so I got into a new champ select with different people. Still support. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 13 2016 03:29 JimmiC wrote: I think all the people complaining are pretty high ELO but not top of the top. Cause on the top streams they just all pick fill then sort it out in game just like before. Low plat and below it works fine. That happens only in na because there is a very low population there. Here in euw nobody picks fill. Also I have been watching streams and except qtpie nobody picks fill. On February 13 2016 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote: even better is how you cant queue up for a mix of 4 roles with 4 people, you have to cover all 5. like bitch please we are covering every role except mid just give us a mid and be done with it. Why do we queue up as 4 only for our roles to be complete russian roulette? Yea it is very weird that they ignored this part. I get that they want to reduce q time because of 2 spots rather than 1 but still meh. Would be a lot more reasonable to not have to. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:18 nafta wrote: That happens only in na because there is a very low population there. Here in euw nobody picks fill. Also I have been watching streams and except qtpie nobody picks fill. pretty much all of the streamer first guys at challenger MMR pick fill, some of the pros don't, but unless you can only play a single role, those streamers pick fill for more games | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:24 PrinceXizor wrote: pretty much all of the streamer first guys at challenger MMR pick fill, some of the pros don't, but unless you can only play a single role, those streamers pick fill for more games Maybe this is because I watch sneaky/meteos/qtpie and trick2g mostly. But yea this problem definitely doesn't exist on euw because we don't have THAT big of a difference in timezones like in na. The wait time is still pretty long but not as long. Although I did have 49 minutes last night not including dodges. | ||
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JJMC
Portugal83 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:25 nafta wrote: Maybe this is because I watch sneaky/meteos/qtpie and trick2g mostly. But yea this problem definitely doesn't exist on euw because we don't have THAT big of a difference in timezones like in na. The wait time is still pretty long but not as long. Although I did have 49 minutes last night not including dodges. NA is weird. the majority of the players are EST, but the majority of top players are PST 3 hour difference. so if you are an east coast player at the top of the ladder you gotta wait forever for games, or play super late at time. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On February 13 2016 06:16 PrinceXizor wrote: NA is weird. the majority of the players are EST, but the majority of top players are PST 3 hour difference. so if you are an east coast player at the top of the ladder you gotta wait forever for games, or play super late at time. that is because all the top/professional players moved to CA for lower ping when the servers where located there | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 13 2016 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote: even better is how you cant queue up for a mix of 4 roles with 4 people, you have to cover all 5. like bitch please we are covering every role except mid just give us a mid and be done with it. Why do we queue up as 4 only for our roles to be complete russian roulette? Risk of noone willing to main support, basically. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
Long story short, the enemy top-mid-jung were a 3-men premade, very very likely on voice comm, and they just destroyed our jungle and top, while keeping mid in check. They constantly moved together, chainwarded our red-side jungle, and any reaction from our top or mid were way too late, as pings or basic map-awareness can't match 3 people having instant voice access to one-another. The unfair thing is, that we did not have a 3-men premade in our team. I was duoing (supp-mid) and MAYBE our adc and top were duoing too, not sure about that. Based on chat I would say no, but it's possible. In any case, it was pretty damn disgusting, and once again, I don't understand the lack of in-game voice-chat, when the whole dynamic Q is advertised as "play this TEAM game as it was meant to be played!" This and the lack of replay system which drives me crazy about Riot. I really don't give a crap about sandbox mode, it is one of the worst circlejerk in LoL's history and I am fully supporting Riot not implementing it, but come on man. Where are my rep-- On February 13 2016 08:36 Alaric wrote: Risk of noone willing to main support, basically. While I can see how in the grand scheme of things support might be the least coveted role, I think since S3 the role had seen a huge surge in popularity, not to mention many unconventional supports have been introduced since then (not just talking about champs that were released as supp) which shy away from the traditional utility-heavy playstyle which many people found boring. All in all, I don't think Riot should go out its way to kinda force people into playing supp. I know Teambuilder had a serious lack of support players, but that's rather different. If you just want to have fun (alone or with friends), then playing support is hardly the way. Unless it's J4 support with Yasuo adc or sth like that. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
If you duo, can you and your duo both queue up as the same positions and guarantee that you get your positions? Like if I duo with a top main, can we duo as jungle/top and top/jungle and we'll both get our roles? | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On February 13 2016 20:37 GolemMadness wrote: If you duo, can you and your duo both queue up as the same positions and guarantee that you get your positions? Like if I duo with a top main, can we duo as jungle/top and top/jungle and we'll both get our roles? No, you always have to select [number of players in the party+1] role. But it should be rather easy if one of you guys put mid as your secondary. Worst case scenario you ask someone to change with you. What's completely bonkers, however, that you have to select roles as a 5-men queue as well. Just wow. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 13 2016 16:02 Volband wrote: I know Teambuilder had a serious lack of support players, but that's rather different. If you just want to have fun (alone or with friends), then playing support is hardly the way. Unless it's J4 support with Yasuo adc or sth like that. Team builder had a lack of support players due to the teambuilder captains being dicks. team builder a place where you can queue up by role and not be forced into specific champions, except if you play support, because fuck you for not picking one of the top 2 meta supports, you're getting booted.\ but yes, even if 1% of your games are negatively impacted by dynamic queue, that means that you as a non- grouped player are skewed down in rank by grouped players. it's why dynamic queue rank will be meaningless the moment they release solo queue. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 13 2016 16:02 Volband wrote: While I can see how in the grand scheme of things support might be the least coveted role, I think since S3 the role had seen a huge surge in popularity, not to mention many unconventional supports have been introduced since then (not just talking about champs that were released as supp) which shy away from the traditional utility-heavy playstyle which many people found boring. I think support is a lot more popular. but they have a lot less impact on a game than season 3, where a support player controlled the whole map and could shut down an enemy carry. It was significantly harder and a lot more punishing for failure, which lead to people complaining about it. I miss being able to win 80+% of games on support. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
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