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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 24 2016 21:31 GMT
#441
yea shen jungle will very much be a thing next patch. He's too feast or famine for a tank now in top lane to be worth playing there, easy to counterpick and fuck. But in jungle, well he'll just be strong.
I come in for the scraps
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 24 2016 21:38 GMT
#442
On February 25 2016 06:29 nafta wrote:
How does getting damage that you previously didn't have not change anything lol? Aoe that scales with 12% of bonus hp lol.

don't forget a huge thing with E's passive part. where dealing damage with it gives you energy back, now you can restore 6x that value per camp instead of 3.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 24 2016 21:41 GMT
#443
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 25 2016 00:26 GMT
#444
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 00:40:31
February 25 2016 00:35 GMT
#445
On February 25 2016 09:26 JimmiC wrote:
I was thinking about a lot of these tops who rise up to challenger and so forth with carry tops and than are forced into tank rolls. Maybe teams need to start looking for people who main tanks in solo que even if they are lower ranked on the ladder? At least they will be very comfortable with those champs? Not sure it would work but it does seem like the current system of grabbing the highest ranked top and then putting them on completely different champs.

The problem with running tank tops in solo queue. is they require teamwork to function these days outside of absolutely OP champs (like when mundo would win almost every game he got picked at the top of the ladder). this is the role riot wants them to have. but it means that in a game already trying to divorce itself from individual skill as the primary factor in a game, the top lane struggles even more as riot tries to remove as many aspects of running the tank style top that rely on individual skill as opposed to coordination. Of course the top players all run carry champs, its the only way they can show they are the top players when playing alone. picking from a lower skill bracket from only tank mains would be trying to play the lottery. "I hope this guy was actually good enough to be pro but not able to show it in game because of his champion choice"
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 25 2016 00:52 GMT
#446
many reasons

2 obvious ones:

1) it is harder to rank up without carry champs. so naturally you have a smaller pool to pick from if you are looking for mainly 'tank' players in soloq
2) it is easier to learn how to play tank champs than it is to play carry champs. if you can play fiora/irelia/etc at a high challenger level, you probably have the ability to learn malphite maokai. not that that isn't true vice versa, but it is definitely more difficult and time consuming to pick up higher skill cap carry champs.

there are definitely more
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 01:06:48
February 25 2016 01:00 GMT
#447
the problem with tanks top they dont tank at all late game also why play them when u can just play ranged champ with steraks/MaW be semi tank with carry dmg
btw with upcoming steraks nerf do u guys think its better to buy mallet now? its 400gold more for extra 250hp, way higher AD which scales with all skills unlike steraks and slow effect.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 25 2016 01:04 GMT
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 01:18:26
February 25 2016 01:17 GMT
#449
On February 25 2016 10:04 JimmiC wrote:
I agree in theory but in practice it has not worked. I wonder if league will create advanced stars to try to unearth who are the top tank players. Like how they find good defensive defenceman in nhl. Or the "gravity" stat in nba.

I mean having the most goals and assists in the whl does not always translate to being best nhl. I'm not saying I have a solution just wondering if teams will employ scouts and they might start look for specific skills

just because LCS teams have such an unstable environment they can't afford to keep a top laner for more than a split or two before needing to bail for a known player or risk compromising all of their income, doesn't mean recruiting is flawed.
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