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On February 09 2016 13:12 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 12:27 IMoperator wrote:
a couple of the people from some gaming forum i used to go to are now in diamond 1 and playing against pros. they were stuck in plat back in s4 when I was hovering in mid/high diamond. i really really really regret taking a break from league now holy fuck im so sad. thats basically me started in s3 silver -> plat 1 s4 plat 1-> d5 only on smurf, main stuck in p1 s5 p1/d5 -> d1 funny thing is I played the most s4. in terms of play time s4 > s3 > s5 > s6. being able to play a lot is helpful, but it's more about effectively identifying your problems and fixing them. literally as soon as I fixed some champion pool issues and playstyle (from have to solo CARRY to simply not feeding/shutting down opponent) I jumped from d5 to d2 within like 1.5 months whereas I was stuck in p1 for literally a full year. pretty sure I had a higher winrate in diamond than in plat too. I remember getting out of plat with like 50% winrate and I ended the season with 56% winrate. you don't improve if you just mindlessly spam games. it's why you see those bronze 5 players with 2k ranked games per season. this game isn't like broodwar where 2 weeks off instantly drops you like a full rank.
Agreed for the most part. I don't think I've played more than 400-500 games in any given season. Personally my CS'ing gets disgustingly awful if I don't play enough though. The rest doesn't "rust" dramatically.
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On February 09 2016 13:12 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 12:27 IMoperator wrote:
a couple of the people from some gaming forum i used to go to are now in diamond 1 and playing against pros. they were stuck in plat back in s4 when I was hovering in mid/high diamond. i really really really regret taking a break from league now holy fuck im so sad. thats basically me started in s3 silver -> plat 1 s4 plat 1-> d5 only on smurf, main stuck in p1 s5 p1/d5 -> d1 funny thing is I played the most s4. in terms of play time s4 > s3 > s5 > s6. being able to play a lot is helpful, but it's more about effectively identifying your problems and fixing them. literally as soon as I fixed some champion pool issues and playstyle (from have to solo CARRY to simply not feeding/shutting down opponent) I jumped from d5 to d2 within like 1.5 months whereas I was stuck in p1 for literally a full year. pretty sure I had a higher winrate in diamond than in plat too. I remember getting out of plat with like 50% winrate and I ended the season with 56% winrate. you don't improve if you just mindlessly spam games. it's why you see those bronze 5 players with 2k ranked games per season. this game isn't like broodwar where 2 weeks off instantly drops you like a full rank.
Playing a lot (and not analyzing) can also reinforce bad play and actively make you worse
I started silver 2 in Season 2. At the end of Season 3 i made a concerted effort
1) Don't play after a loss until the next day
2) Watch a replay of every game and find at least 10 mistakes [missed CS doesn't count*, avoid counting duplicates]
3) Consciously play with the idea of fixing the mistakes
I made plat 3 in 2 months with no boots morellonomicon Janna Support and have been around plat 4 ever sense (after stopping the routine due to less time and not as much desire to get into plat]
You can 100% get back up to diamond really fast if that was legit your mechanical top end Imoperator. The mechanics will come back super fast everything else is what takes time.
*unless it was a conceptual mistake. As in, i did not attempt to get CS I should have attempted to get.
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On February 09 2016 13:06 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 13:03 Frolossus wrote:On February 09 2016 12:27 IMoperator wrote:
a couple of the people from some gaming forum i used to go to are now in diamond 1 and playing against pros. they were stuck in plat back in s4 when I was hovering in mid/high diamond. i really really really regret taking a break from league now holy fuck im so sad. if you get burnt out, i think it's still worth it to take the break and come back with fresh motivation to play. i took s4 off from ranked and only played ~1-5 normals/week. it only took a month or so to get back up to where i was and exceed it. well i didnt play league at all from may 2014 til about march or april 2015. So when i came back I was super rusty and could not get anywhere near where i was before. i wish i didnt have anger problems because i could've possibly been playing in masters/challenger right now. but i just couldnt keep playing, i was literally hurting myself physically whenever i played badly or lost games.
Hah, same! Except the master/challenger part, at best I could maybe get to the doorstep, but spending the last quarter of S4 tryharding the living shit out of every game and only getting to D3 promos, and losing a million LP after every loss made me so fucking burnt out that I just skipped S5 altogether. It was all fun when I saw myself slowly but surely climbing, and actually improving, correcting mistakes, but after hitting my head into a brick wall repeatedly and having absolutely no idea what I could've done better, it just sucked the soul out of me.
And the worst thing is, what I accomplished wth my mentality is now completely gone. I've gone from a toxic shit to an occasionally annoying guy to have on your team, but now that I started playing again, I am tilted by everything and everyone. And when I tilt, I tilt hard. If I am 0-1, then it's game over. I never practice actual physical outbursts, I just keep it in and let it explode into someone's face. It sucks, because I used to just laugh at people being salty at chat, but 1/3th in my game ends up with me playing Hearthstone while standing in the fountain because someone barked at me, or me leaving bot lane at lvl 4 because people doesn't have the slightest clue about their own champions' strengths, let alone lane mechanics.
I tried to do a tryhard run on my main acc, which decayed to shit MMR wise, but it's quite hard when I would already spam surr after 3 minutes, or somehow tilt so hard that I end up playing Graves supports. (Which actually worked rather well, so others not being able to not feed someone to 10-0 just tilted me even more). And once again, I used to be the guy voting an instant no to every surrender vote and actually "slap" people back into the game. To be honest, I should probably just play every game with /mute all until mid-plat, when people might actually say something of value.
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AFKing is a dick move. Play the game or don't queue.
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On February 09 2016 16:45 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 13:06 IMoperator wrote:On February 09 2016 13:03 Frolossus wrote:On February 09 2016 12:27 IMoperator wrote:
a couple of the people from some gaming forum i used to go to are now in diamond 1 and playing against pros. they were stuck in plat back in s4 when I was hovering in mid/high diamond. i really really really regret taking a break from league now holy fuck im so sad. if you get burnt out, i think it's still worth it to take the break and come back with fresh motivation to play. i took s4 off from ranked and only played ~1-5 normals/week. it only took a month or so to get back up to where i was and exceed it. well i didnt play league at all from may 2014 til about march or april 2015. So when i came back I was super rusty and could not get anywhere near where i was before. i wish i didnt have anger problems because i could've possibly been playing in masters/challenger right now. but i just couldnt keep playing, i was literally hurting myself physically whenever i played badly or lost games. Hah, same! Except the master/challenger part, at best I could maybe get to the doorstep, but spending the last quarter of S4 tryharding the living shit out of every game and only getting to D3 promos, and losing a million LP after every loss made me so fucking burnt out that I just skipped S5 altogether. It was all fun when I saw myself slowly but surely climbing, and actually improving, correcting mistakes, but after hitting my head into a brick wall repeatedly and having absolutely no idea what I could've done better, it just sucked the soul out of me. And the worst thing is, what I accomplished wth my mentality is now completely gone. I've gone from a toxic shit to an occasionally annoying guy to have on your team, but now that I started playing again, I am tilted by everything and everyone. And when I tilt, I tilt hard. If I am 0-1, then it's game over. I never practice actual physical outbursts, I just keep it in and let it explode into someone's face. It sucks, because I used to just laugh at people being salty at chat, but 1/3th in my game ends up with me playing Hearthstone while standing in the fountain because someone barked at me, or me leaving bot lane at lvl 4 because people doesn't have the slightest clue about their own champions' strengths, let alone lane mechanics. I tried to do a tryhard run on my main acc, which decayed to shit MMR wise, but it's quite hard when I would already spam surr after 3 minutes, or somehow tilt so hard that I end up playing Graves supports. (Which actually worked rather well, so others not being able to not feed someone to 10-0 just tilted me even more). And once again, I used to be the guy voting an instant no to every surrender vote and actually "slap" people back into the game. To be honest, I should probably just play every game with /mute all until mid-plat, when people might actually say something of value.
Dude you sound fucking pathetic. I don't know who came up with the word "tilt" or decided that it was somehow an excuse for awful behavior, but this shit has got to stop. Like, you get to pretend you're not actually a terrible person, rather, you just "tilt" and then do terrible things. Except in your case you decide you're going to "tilt" after a single death, so that you can make excuses for AFKing in fountain?
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this made me realize that I am just getting older and worse. I've been high elo from the beginning but people caught up to me instead of me staying the best.
pre-ranked : High elo group of jiji, chauster, kobe, lilballz, halfrican, kouldream, theoddone, reginald, hotshotgg, salce, etc etc.
season 1: peaked at #2 on the ladder playing only warwick on a locked screen and touch pad.
season 2: top 200 players with GP
season 3+ high diamond scrub 4 life
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On February 09 2016 12:27 IMoperator wrote:
a couple of the people from some gaming forum i used to go to are now in diamond 1 and playing against pros. they were stuck in plat back in s4 when I was hovering in mid/high diamond. i really really really regret taking a break from league now holy fuck im so sad.
There are a lot of people who were plat or so and got lucky to sneak in d1 cuz start of season. Also on na there are very few players so it is much easier to get to play with top tier players. I got matched with challengers on my d1/low master mmr too at night. Had a game with 9 challengers last season lol.
For me it is the opposite. I play better if I spam games but I win more if I stop playing for a while and come back.
Voidband sounds like you have problems irl not in game.
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On February 10 2016 00:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
this made me realize that I am just getting older and worse. I've been high elo from the beginning but people caught up to me instead of me staying the best.
pre-ranked : High elo group of jiji, chauster, kobe, lilballz, halfrican, kouldream, theoddone, reginald, hotshotgg, salce, etc etc.
season 1: peaked at #2 on the ladder playing only warwick on a locked screen and touch pad.
season 2: top 200 players with GP
season 3+ high diamond scrub 4 life
you're like my brother, he somehow played ezreal with a touchpad + locked screen and was like 1800 elo back when elo was a thing
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last time i was top ranked in anything was like... dawngate when it was up
been fluctuating between silver and gold since i started playing regularly again in late s4 and s5 (since i hardly played in s2 on my old laptop didn't touch ranked in s3), i really wish i had been able to just take like a week aside to just tryhard and see how high i climbed. the last couple of summers rolled around i was either playing dota 2 or sc2 and while i enjoyed both i doubt i'll have free time like that again
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i was once one of the richest guys on runescape and maplesea, i could buy all the GF's i wanted
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I've never been good at a multiplayer game.
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On February 10 2016 01:24 Gahlo wrote:
I've never been good at a multiplayer game.
if it makes you feel any better, the only other multiplayer game i've ever been good at was neopets
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My roommate once was the first lvl 70 on our server in TBC. I like to think the coffee I made for my test that morning helped.
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Nice Alistar change it really separates the good Alistar players from the great ones I think.
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Nice meme, definitely new and exciting, detailed analysis, solid post.
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On February 10 2016 04:14 Caiada wrote:
Nice meme, definitely new and exciting, detailed analysis, solid post.
Almost as useful as someone complaining about people complaining. 10/10 my friend
Pretty sure they are making that change because of the combo bug that they can't fix or at least I hope it is because of it and not because of what they are saying in the post.
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man these item changes are like a patch behind, I feel like sunfire is already more popular than deadmans after it's recent buff.
The RFC changes are just confusing, like for sure RFC is the most popular option, but nerfing it this hard while buffing shiv this much is just going to 180 the situation rather than create parity.
Lastly, I fully admit Poppy is OP,but nerfing Poppy w/o nerfing Fiora seems problematic in my opinion, Fiora is definitely dictating the pro toplane meta more than Poppy, now you basically have to pick quinn or cede turrets mid lategame.
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They can't nerf fiora so quickly, they've already used fiora as an example of "healthy" play and a successful design. they have to wait until they can blame the meta for the change being necessary.
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