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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 22 2016 00:06 GMT
#441
Which VC was the one funding Ember? besides that it was like "look at our salaries we are obviously putting out there to try and drive the rest of the CS scene out of business".
Freeeeeeedom
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 00:20:09
March 22 2016 00:20 GMT
#442
the better question is which VC woke up one morning and realized he was paying goldenglue 90k and santorin 105k
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 22 2016 03:41 GMT
#443
To be honest, I'm pretty sure the VC had very little ideas about how esports actually worked, and thought that some dudes who used to work at Riot did, and just trusted their judgement.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 22 2016 04:16 GMT
#444
On March 22 2016 12:41 wei2coolman wrote:
To be honest, I'm pretty sure the VC had very little ideas about how esports actually worked, and thought that some dudes who used to work at Riot did, and just trusted their judgement.

To be fair, the idea of overpaying for solid talent that is a shoe-in to get a spot in LCS while at the same time as not spending as much as it takes to buy a spot is a solid one.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 22 2016 06:39 GMT
#445
On March 22 2016 13:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 12:41 wei2coolman wrote:
To be honest, I'm pretty sure the VC had very little ideas about how esports actually worked, and thought that some dudes who used to work at Riot did, and just trusted their judgement.

To be fair, the idea of overpaying for solid talent that is a shoe-in to get a spot in LCS while at the same time as not spending as much as it takes to buy a spot is a solid one.


Sure that makes sense but they didn't do that at all. Sounds like some guy pitched them his plan then they just went with him regardless of merit. Whoever got the funding must be one smooth talker.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 11:48:46
March 22 2016 11:15 GMT
#446
On March 22 2016 13:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 12:41 wei2coolman wrote:
To be honest, I'm pretty sure the VC had very little ideas about how esports actually worked, and thought that some dudes who used to work at Riot did, and just trusted their judgement.

To be fair, the idea of overpaying for solid talent that is a shoe-in to get a spot in LCS while at the same time as not spending as much as it takes to buy a spot is a solid one.

Not solid at all because there is no such thing as a shoe-in for LCS. You can not guarantee competetive success in League just with money and a roster that is good on paper as many examples in the past have shown. And Ember roster was not even as good on paper as others that failed in the past.
From what I have seen outside observers did not see Ember as an LCS shoe-in at all. I would have estimated their chances at maybe 20% if I am generous (50% to make it to promotion, 40% to win promotion vs LCS team).
Off-season = best season
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
March 22 2016 11:48 GMT
#447
Why do they make EUCS qualifiers so utterly retarded.
It's like they actively try to make it worse every single time.
greathuntpormo
Profile Joined March 2016
Lithuania4 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 12:01:50
March 22 2016 11:51 GMT
#448
--Nuked--
lopas
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9254 Posts
March 22 2016 11:52 GMT
#449
What a shock, no one predicted this was gonna happen to Ember /s
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 17:23:13
March 22 2016 17:06 GMT
#450
It's funny how ignorant alot of people are on the growth rate/size of esports:

In two years, it'll be on par with the NHL - Rick Fox

Source: http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/6868

And where exactly would that growth rate come from? LOL hasn't been growing in temrs of viewership for a few years. CS:GO seems to have stabilized over the last 6-10 months. Same with Dota. And I don't see any new game coming out soon that is gonna make the market absolute explode.

And with regards to the absolute size of the esport-industry, it's pretty overrated. I hear the "more people watched the LOL worlds final than NBA" over and over in different medias. And it's the most wrong and manipulated number I have ever seen.

First of, that number is comparing NBA US viewership to LOL viewership. Secondly it is comparing unique viewership to average viewernumbers. Thirdly, it includes millions and millions of Chinese viewbots.

So no, esports is not even close to the major traditional sports. Give it 15-25 years and we can reopen the discussion.

"It's in that conversation now, it's fifth right now. We're in fifth place, it's coming," Fox replied.


Acting like the stereotypical American where only the sports that America watches are popular sports. Because there are many more popular sports than just NHL, NBA, NFL and MLS. If you exclude viewership from sports in Asia and Europe, then you should also exclude esport viewership numbers from non US countries as well.

Tabletennis finals in China generates 190M unique viewers. And if you exclude Chinese viewbots from LOL worlds viewership, more ppl in Denmark watch the national team play handball than the global amount of people watching LOL finals.

nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 17:26:59
March 22 2016 17:25 GMT
#451
It is very typical of people who jump on a bandwagon to overhype it. This whole cancer of esports is the same as "real" sports is stupid. The mere fact that kicking or throwing a fucking ball is held like this great thing that esports needs to aim for is just lol.

If only people stopped trying to make others who don't give a shit about esports take them seriously they would start doing so in a year tops. It is exactly the same as those religious retards who knock on your door.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 22 2016 17:36 GMT
#452
Go read this it's interesting.

http://krbnu.tumblr.com/post/141496094448/inven-samsung-galaxy-crown-lee-min-hos
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 22 2016 17:53 GMT
#453
If you put him and Loco next to each other I'd swear they were related.

It's really nice to read another League/SC pro connection like that. I remember in a recent Flash interview he said that he thought Ssumday didn't like him because he would always avoid Flash in the team house, but he was just shy.

Must admit, I wouldn't mind seeing a Flash/Ssumday v Jaedong/Crown 2v2 BW match.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-27 10:35:07
March 27 2016 09:32 GMT
#454
If someone didn't see, LCL semifinals are tonight. ^_^
www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/506386-the-lcl-playoffs-primer

Considering that it's only Russian cast, we'll cast both bo5s with Ads and Fusi starting in 1,5 hours at http://www.twitch.tv/lcleng.

On March 27 2016 19:03 739 wrote:
Holy crap, Ads Fusi and Wonder in caster desk, can't wait :O


C'mon, it's literally meme worthy stream, for those who want to have fun and watch games.
Next season you'll likely see me on the desk though. :>
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 27 2016 10:03 GMT
#455
Holy crap, Ads Fusi and Wonder in caster desk, can't wait :O
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
April 07 2016 21:34 GMT
#456
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/h2k-gaming-purchased-consortium-investors/?tw=es

Article now surfacing about H2K's sale back in December. Ok, so the sale went through even without Svenskeren.
Also, Richard Lippe is one of the investors. Wasn't it him, or his firm, that sent that letter to Regi back during the Svenskeren stuff?
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9254 Posts
April 08 2016 01:06 GMT
#457
LOL Kakao is in LSPL relegations

http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/LSPL/2016_Season/Summer_Relegation
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 08 2016 01:11 GMT
#458
On April 08 2016 10:06 Dan HH wrote:
LOL Kakao is in LSPL relegations

http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/LSPL/2016_Season/Summer_Relegation

Talk about your fall from grace. Geeze.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 08 2016 01:23 GMT
#459
I'm honestly surprised he didn't get really fat. He reminds me of an NBA or MLB player that wins a title, gets a huge contract, then gets fat.
Freeeeeeedom
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 08 2016 01:26 GMT
#460
On April 08 2016 10:06 Dan HH wrote:
LOL Kakao is in LSPL relegations

http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/LSPL/2016_Season/Summer_Relegation


That's what you get for leaving iG for not getting paid enough.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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