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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 02 2016 00:12 GMT
#321
I'm at work and can't watch the video in what capacity is sirchez joining TL
Carrilord has arrived.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 02 2016 00:15 GMT
#322
On March 02 2016 09:12 Slusher wrote:
I'm at work and can't watch the video in what capacity is sirchez joining TL

Streamer. So irrelevant.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 02 2016 02:19 GMT
#323
Meanwhile at lolesports.

IEM Katowice Power Rankings

Note: Due to different regions playing in different formats, each team is followed with their game win percentage, as opposed to match win results.

S Tier: SKTelecom T1 (57.14%)
A Tier: Counter Logic Gaming (71.43%)
B Tier: Royal Never Give Up (72.22%)
C Tier: ESC Ever (83.33%) | Qiao Gu Reapers (82.35%)
D Tier: Fnatic (57.14%) | Origen (50%) | TSM (57.14%)
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 02 2016 02:22 GMT
#324
Eh, move the Chinese teams up a tier each and that's probably legit.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 02 2016 03:48 GMT
#325
I haven't seen the recent LPL games, but last I saw RNG was hella good, looked more impressive than SKT anyways.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 02 2016 04:09 GMT
#326
CLG is good? Based on a decent Trickery of IMT plus lategame fiora?
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 02 2016 04:30 GMT
#327
On March 02 2016 13:09 cLutZ wrote:
CLG is good? Based on a decent Trickery of IMT plus lategame fiora?

CLG is still a shittier version of their Summer S5 performance. Which is still good enough to be #2 in NA. Which is just sad.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 02 2016 04:50 GMT
#328
I'm just confused how even LOLEsports can be like, "This team is a tier above any team not in the bottom 3 of a league."
Freeeeeeedom
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 02 2016 05:47 GMT
#329
On March 02 2016 11:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Meanwhile at lolesports.

Show nested quote +
IEM Katowice Power Rankings

Note: Due to different regions playing in different formats, each team is followed with their game win percentage, as opposed to match win results.

S Tier: SKTelecom T1 (57.14%)
A Tier: Counter Logic Gaming (71.43%)
B Tier: Royal Never Give Up (72.22%)
C Tier: ESC Ever (83.33%) | Qiao Gu Reapers (82.35%)
D Tier: Fnatic (57.14%) | Origen (50%) | TSM (57.14%)

2 years later...
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 02 2016 06:35 GMT
#330
On March 02 2016 11:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Meanwhile at lolesports.

Show nested quote +
IEM Katowice Power Rankings

Note: Due to different regions playing in different formats, each team is followed with their game win percentage, as opposed to match win results.

S Tier: SKTelecom T1 (57.14%)
A Tier: Counter Logic Gaming (71.43%)
B Tier: Royal Never Give Up (72.22%)
C Tier: ESC Ever (83.33%) | Qiao Gu Reapers (82.35%)
D Tier: Fnatic (57.14%) | Origen (50%) | TSM (57.14%)


I hope SKT loses to Ever
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 11:28:41
March 02 2016 11:28 GMT
#331
On March 02 2016 11:22 Gahlo wrote:
Eh, move the Chinese teams up a tier each and that's probably legit.

Kinda thinking the same. People rate China really low now after worlds. Idk maybe it is even true.

In general I would say the teams are closer together than using tiers implies. Also I wonder why QG is a tier lower than RNG although QG has the better w/l.
Off-season = best season
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 11:36:39
March 02 2016 11:36 GMT
#332
Clg kinda overhyped. Sure their macro play and jg/top are really good+solid supp but their main carries are bad. Skt at s tier considering they will be playing with Blank is suspect too.

Guess riot felt bad for ignoring clg in na lcs so now they overhype them.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 02 2016 11:41 GMT
#333
SKT is coming into IEM with a string of losses, and I don't think CLG should be ranked that highly, at least internationally. CLG crafted a strategy to beat IMT, but that doesn't mean they can beat other good teams, which I think is a flaw of having such a dominant team in NA. I don't follow the chinese scene so I can't judge those, but from recent results the D tier teams definitely belong at the bottom.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 02 2016 15:02 GMT
#334
On March 02 2016 20:28 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 11:22 Gahlo wrote:
Eh, move the Chinese teams up a tier each and that's probably legit.

Kinda thinking the same. People rate China really low now after worlds. Idk maybe it is even true.

In general I would say the teams are closer together than using tiers implies. Also I wonder why QG is a tier lower than RNG although QG has the better w/l.


I'm surprised SKT is even S tier, don't think any team looks that good coming into the event. They all kind of look the same. Think whoever did this either spices it up for hypes sake or just couldn't be bothered watching stuff. Doesn't make sense since hyping this event as the most "even" international event to date seems smarter.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 16:40:32
March 02 2016 16:37 GMT
#335
On March 02 2016 20:36 nafta wrote:
Clg kinda overhyped. Sure their macro play and jg/top are really good+solid supp but their main carries are bad. Skt at s tier considering they will be playing with Blank is suspect too.

Guess riot felt bad for ignoring clg in na lcs so now they overhype them.


The reason CLG could (but probly won't) win is because they play a style that hides individual player skill as much as possible.

On March 03 2016 00:02 Numy wrote:
I'm surprised SKT is even S tier, don't think any team looks that good coming into the event. They all kind of look the same. Think whoever did this either spices it up for hypes sake or just couldn't be bothered watching stuff. Doesn't make sense since hyping this event as the most "even" international event to date seems smarter.


I mean, they look really bad at the moment, in Korea, but Ever failed to qualify for Champions so, that rarely means anything when comparing to other regions. I think you could make an argument for starting with A tier (common misuse of tier charts to always go S->D when sometimes there is no S or no D) But I think being on their own tier is just reasonable due to history of Korea at international events.
Carrilord has arrived.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 22:00:09
March 02 2016 21:59 GMT
#336
skt is not s tier atm even in this iem. it's up to blank though. could see them winning or losing to a team like rng rather decisively.

bengi is gone but with him the protective wardbot. faker should really be more of a calculating player. i am not sure he will make the transition though. if he doesn't his career could be shorter than it should be.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 02 2016 22:34 GMT
#337
Trying to judge teams strictly by their play within a local league is a recipe for disaster, as learned last worlds, and many tournaments before, but looks to be already forgotten. Remember how a team MonteCristo said wasn't even in the top 8 of LCK won http://lol.gamepedia.com/IEM_Season_VIII_-_World_Championship without dropping a single game? Just because a Korean team looks terrible in their region doesn't equate to them being terrible internationally. It also works the other way. Just because a LPL/LCS team looks impressive in their region doesn't equate to them being impressive internationally.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
March 02 2016 23:11 GMT
#338
After how World's went, I'm expecting SKT and Ever to go undefeated except against each other, and for CLG, TSM, QG, and RNG to lose every game.

That way, when something different happens, I can be excited and not be disappointed! :D
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 03 2016 00:50 GMT
#339
i dont think any team in the world has the right to be called s tier right now

anyways in other bracket news, NA CS playoff brackets are as follows:

(2) Ember vs (3) Team Dragon Knights
(1) Apex vs (4) Team Liquid Academy

all matches (starting next week at 6pm pst) are Bo5 in the LCS studio this year. top 2 will play in the promotion tournament vs lcs teams in the relegation zone.
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 03 2016 01:06 GMT
#340
If you watch Montes videos on the teams, he rates all the eastern teams at 3 stars(except Ever at 2) and all the Western teams at 2.
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