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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
November 04 2015 00:30 GMT
#61
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/na/site/2016-season-update/ranked-improvements.html

Some more info... wtf
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 04 2015 00:47 GMT
#62
kindred's damage might be a little bit retarded
Bronze player stuck in platinum
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 04 2015 01:26 GMT
#63
tbh the ranked change is the first change I have seen in the game ever that is making me consider quiting. Dunno how did riot randomly come up with that gem. Instead of removing duo they add any number..... Also I hate late season even more than summer.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 04 2015 01:35 GMT
#64
ye i cant wait to be matched with 4 premades talking shit and trolling together then reporting me
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#65
Just played against a (not very good) Mundo. That E change made him autowin every trade against me as Maokai unless I can force him into minion aggro and use my ult while he doesn't use his. In trades where I could walk back into the wave and let missclick, I'd win though. The difference is big (I was playing Maokai, so E's aa reset pretty much negate my passive).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 04 2015 02:23 GMT
#66
Seems not that different than before the mundo buff but after the Maokai nerf.
Freeeeeeedom
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
November 05 2015 01:19 GMT
#67
What's with this new fad of people saying "woof" or "wurf" after dying. Is this some hot new meme straight off the dank planet express
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 05 2015 01:37 GMT
#68
On November 05 2015 10:19 RagequitBM wrote:
What's with this new fad of people saying "woof" or "wurf" after dying. Is this some hot new meme straight off the dank planet express

Eh. People been doing that for ages? At least on EUNE. It's the "Law of Worth": If you say wurf, worth, #worth etc fast enough after dying to get something it's always worth.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
November 05 2015 01:38 GMT
#69
Oh i thought it was just people pretending to be dogs because they say it even if they just get solo killed
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 05 2015 01:51 GMT
#70
On November 05 2015 10:38 RagequitBM wrote:
Oh i thought it was just people pretending to be dogs because they say it even if they just get solo killed

Well, when you get 4 man dived in botlane you sometimes feel like the enemies ehhh... Female canine so that might it too.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 05 2015 05:38 GMT
#71
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 05 2015 05:55 GMT
#72
iCanada's Guide to Freelo and Being Awesome:

1. Leave all popular tops up (GP, Fiora, Riven, Darius)
2. Ban all the junglers. (Elise, graggy, lee)
3. Pick Spartan top. No one remembers the horror, people will think you're trolling.
4. Kill everything because pantheon absolutely dominates Fiora, GP, new Darius and Riven. You kill them literally at every level except 6 and 7... by which point you're level 11 already so it don't matter. Just all in all game unless your on their junglers hiking experience top favorite destination.
5. Snowball the game, win at 20 minutes.

If you don't know how to play pantheon, check oldskool atrioc guide, or search through the Internets for stream archives of locicero / Mogwai (smashgizmo).

Run like hell from new Garen though. Don't matter how hard you shit on him if you're the villain all game. What a dumb champ, you get punished for being better. You just die to him despite being up 3k gold. Stupid stupid stupid champ.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 05 2015 06:04 GMT
#73
dont know about the others but riven is only until a certain skill level. although with her many nerfs maybe panth just beats her outright now.
I come in for the scraps
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 05 2015 06:18 GMT
#74
then jungler comes screws ur early game and you are fucked
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 05 2015 07:00 GMT
#75
That's why you ban junglers!

Man I remember playing Sejuani and only banning junglers back when she wasn't popular and nobody played anything but Lee and Jarvan.

Shit was hilarious when they'd start banning junglers too, then suddenly there's no popular junglers available and I pick Sejuani. End up going against Warwick or something and just wreck face every game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 05 2015 10:03 GMT
#76
Re: worth, wurf

Fun fact: Wurf is the German word for throw. Always brings a big smile to my face and I tell them "Wurf indeed my friend, wurf indeed."
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 05 2015 10:16 GMT
#77
iCanada, which div are you? No offense, I just can't see spartan having a significant advantage over any of those tops.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 05 2015 11:07 GMT
#78
Darius was already dicey for Pantheon previously, now he's got sustain. Since all he needs is to not die to you, I assume with similar skill Darius shoud hol a significant advantage.
Riven will pretty much always win with smart shield usage and animation cancelling because she bursts harder and can disengage. She'll run you oom if you don't start flask and if you die she'll outtrade you.
Old GP could survive Pantheon just fine and farm till he beats him (his passive could also turn an early all-in if you missed the kill but it's been changed so whatever). Current one probably can too, although it's risky.

That made me check Pantheon's base stats though and its surprising how low his base AD is (56~105), his armour is super high though.

People not knowing how Pantheon works and picking champions because they're perceived as OP over being able to play them doesn't make Pantheon stronger. I've solokilled (and "won" my lane, as much as being able to delay when they outscale me, then group while I'm still stronger is winning my lane) Darius or Vladimir as Maokai, and in my promos I killed Irelia and she only came back because her jungler showed up multiple times including a save at 30 HP.
That doesn't mean Maokai is stronger than these champions, just that they were played very badly (got Irelia's player against me in the following game, he was pretty much invisible).
Same deal when Viktor was unpopular, I'd beat Ahri even though the match-up is pretty brainless in her favour, just because they didn't know the champion and were used to Ahri beating about everyone by default.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-05 14:19:41
November 05 2015 14:09 GMT
#79
On November 05 2015 20:07 Alaric wrote:
Darius was already dicey for Pantheon previously, now he's got sustain. Since all he needs is to not die to you, I assume with similar skill Darius shoud hol a significant advantage.
Riven will pretty much always win with smart shield usage and animation cancelling because she bursts harder and can disengage. She'll run you oom if you don't start flask and if you die she'll outtrade you.
Old GP could survive Pantheon just fine and farm till he beats him (his passive could also turn an early all-in if you missed the kill but it's been changed so whatever). Current one probably can too, although it's risky.

That made me check Pantheon's base stats though and its surprising how low his base AD is (56~105), his armour is super high though.

People not knowing how Pantheon works and picking champions because they're perceived as OP over being able to play them doesn't make Pantheon stronger. I've solokilled (and "won" my lane, as much as being able to delay when they outscale me, then group while I'm still stronger is winning my lane) Darius or Vladimir as Maokai, and in my promos I killed Irelia and she only came back because her jungler showed up multiple times including a save at 30 HP.
That doesn't mean Maokai is stronger than these champions, just that they were played very badly (got Irelia's player against me in the following game, he was pretty much invisible).
Same deal when Viktor was unpopular, I'd beat Ahri even though the match-up is pretty brainless in her favour, just because they didn't know the champion and were used to Ahri beating about everyone by default.


Darius was a real bad matchup before, but now his early game is real bad comparatively. Pantheon rolls him. The nerfs to his passive really hurt him here. Play the matchup now, it's actually really easy for panth, even if Darius stacks armor. Still not my favorite matchup, you probably lose if Game goes to 25 minutes.

Panth vs Riven used to be very skill based, but with all Riven nerfs you pretty much just wreck her levels 1 through 5. I've done this math 1000 times, but Riven can't really trade with pantheon till level 4 even wit animation cancelling. Especially in soloqueue, all Riven will trade with you before then. Mostly I win this through cheese and Riven players being ignorant. I think at a higher level I'd probably lose this if they played it well.

Fiora actually just cannot fight pantheon till 6. It's a real one sided matchup. Tbh, probably pantheons best matchup. Fiora cannot proc her passive through panth shield with E, and she also cannot reposte his stun, animation way too fast. This is actually the matchup that made be start playing pantheon again. She is completely helpless in lane until she gets R. Played the lane probably 20 times, smashed it every time. Fiora REALLY needs help in this lane. Tbh this is the only real one sided lane.

GP I've only played a couple of times; my impression is GP can no longer build ridiculous amounts of armor and out sustain you. The passive changes really hurt him early against pantheon too. Probably skill based or maybe in favor of GP. That being said, I think gp is pretty beatable. Especially if you get ganks the lane is pretty snowballed because GP is going to build damage, and it's hard to combo barrels in brushes and stuff with how quickly panth closes and all ins. Only top matchup I personally don't feel screwed in. Might be a 5 seasons of experience thing though.

As has always been the case, panth more scared of junglers than lane opponents. Might be bad at anywhere above mid plat, but at mid plat this is definitely the easiest way to win games. With how I'm climbing might even hit diamond.

My point was, anyway, that Spartan is very very playable. Much more so now than when tops were like Mao / Sion / Rumble all day every day.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
November 05 2015 14:15 GMT
#80
On November 05 2015 23:09 iCanada wrote:

Panth vs Riven used to be very skill based, but with all Riven nerfs you pretty much just wreck her levels 1 through 5. I've done this math 1000 times, but Riven can't really trade with pantheon till level 4 even wit animation cancelling. Especially in soloqueue, all Riven will trade with you before then. Mostly I win this through cheese and Riven players being ignorant. I think at a higher level I'd probably lose this if they played it well.

I thought standard riven vs panth strat was just to gt 2-3 points in e early so you can just farm while ignoring his spears, and wait til 6 to blow him up.
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