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On November 03 2015 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:I was thinking about this previously and a reddit post reminded me of it again. For you EU guys, who are your one trick ponies and what do they play? I think despite the bad rep these players have, some of them are literally amazing at the champ they main. Sometimes, I even think they can play their champs better than your average LCS player, etc. At least for NA, the couple that we have, just off the top of my head: Irelia: Irelia Carries U Fizz: FateFalls Annie: Annie Bot Renekton: Romanium, Neryth Wukong: S Allorim, Weatherdark Tryndmere: Rohammers, BoxerPete The legendary gross gore tf!!!
Although he's not exactly that good at the game :p
Also there are a bunch of shaco mains (shaclone is one) but they seem to stay around d1 mmr because their toxicity loses them too many games to actually climb
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On November 03 2015 09:59 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:I was thinking about this previously and a reddit post reminded me of it again. For you EU guys, who are your one trick ponies and what do they play? I think despite the bad rep these players have, some of them are literally amazing at the champ they main. Sometimes, I even think they can play their champs better than your average LCS player, etc. At least for NA, the couple that we have, just off the top of my head: Irelia: Irelia Carries U Fizz: FateFalls Annie: Annie Bot Renekton: Romanium, Neryth Wukong: S Allorim, Weatherdark Tryndmere: Rohammers, BoxerPete The legendary gross gore tf!!! Although he's not exactly that good at the game :p Also there are a bunch of shaco mains (shaclone is one) but they seem to stay around d1 mmr because their toxicity loses them too many games to actually climb Toxicity is never an obstacle on EUW, see half the LCS players :> I don't think there are that many really good OTPs that stream on EUW. Watching Gross Gore will decrease your game skill immediately so I can't recommend it.
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On November 03 2015 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:I was thinking about this previously and a reddit post reminded me of it again. For you EU guys, who are your one trick ponies and what do they play? I think despite the bad rep these players have, some of them are literally amazing at the champ they main. Sometimes, I even think they can play their champs better than your average LCS player, etc. At least for NA, the couple that we have, just off the top of my head: Irelia: Irelia Carries U Fizz: FateFalls Annie: Annie Bot Renekton: Romanium, Neryth Wukong: S Allorim, Weatherdark Tryndmere: Rohammers, BoxerPete s diana 2 is still mostly a one trick pony i think? diamond 1 khazix?
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On November 03 2015 09:59 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:I was thinking about this previously and a reddit post reminded me of it again. For you EU guys, who are your one trick ponies and what do they play? I think despite the bad rep these players have, some of them are literally amazing at the champ they main. Sometimes, I even think they can play their champs better than your average LCS player, etc. At least for NA, the couple that we have, just off the top of my head: Irelia: Irelia Carries U Fizz: FateFalls Annie: Annie Bot Renekton: Romanium, Neryth Wukong: S Allorim, Weatherdark Tryndmere: Rohammers, BoxerPete The legendary gross gore tf!!! Although he's not exactly that good at the game :p Also there are a bunch of shaco mains (shaclone is one) but they seem to stay around d1 mmr because their toxicity loses them too many games to actually climb
Have you actually watched Shaclone these past few weeks? That dude is having issues... He is on permatilt. Literally. And he boarded the train straight to permaban-city - he just instalocks Shaco even if there are is already another jungler, he doesn't talk to the team (or stream, for that matter) and just trolls around in the enemies jungle.
Shaclone used to be a GREAT resource for learning Shaco, but really not anymore. Not right now.
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On November 03 2015 17:03 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 09:59 killerdog wrote:On November 03 2015 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:I was thinking about this previously and a reddit post reminded me of it again. For you EU guys, who are your one trick ponies and what do they play? I think despite the bad rep these players have, some of them are literally amazing at the champ they main. Sometimes, I even think they can play their champs better than your average LCS player, etc. At least for NA, the couple that we have, just off the top of my head: Irelia: Irelia Carries U Fizz: FateFalls Annie: Annie Bot Renekton: Romanium, Neryth Wukong: S Allorim, Weatherdark Tryndmere: Rohammers, BoxerPete The legendary gross gore tf!!! Although he's not exactly that good at the game :p Also there are a bunch of shaco mains (shaclone is one) but they seem to stay around d1 mmr because their toxicity loses them too many games to actually climb Toxicity is never an obstacle on EUW, see half the LCS players :> I don't think there are that many really good OTPs that stream on EUW. Watching Gross Gore will decrease your game skill immediately so I can't recommend it. More like there just aren't many good players that stream at all on euw 
Gotta let NA be better at something :p
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S Diana 2 the diana god, SSBM Hax is TF one trick
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I like how Riot posted their feedback post on Harrowing not being on Halloween on the pbe boards so you can't comment on it unless you have a pbe account...............
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In the MF thread:
I feel "clunky" is starting to be somewhat overused to include broad meanings such as "any mechanic that is not the normal way to play X. " This is dangerous territory as it means anything we add to that game that is new can be instantly defined as "clunky" even if it is something that can be learned, adjusted to, and optimized over time.
It's hard not to point out the irony of Rioters complaining about generic buzzwords and being unable to get understood properly.
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On November 04 2015 05:30 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: Boxbox for riven? I find it really interesting how, with riven suddenly being really popular in pro games, they go such a different build then the historical tiamat rush.
You'd think if it was as required as boxbox and other riven mains have said it is, the best top laners in the world would be doing it too :o
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
There are differences in builds between solo queue and ranked 5's. Boxbox doesn't have to laneswap in half his games.
That being said pro players often and frequently make really poor build decisions. At worlds there was a point where the OG jungler built Randuin's on Evelynn against a team with literally 0% crit chance. Almost any other item would have been better there.
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I think sometimes pros don't read patchnotes
To be fair, neither do I a lot of the time
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randuins probably has a place in progames for the slow
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United States11393 Posts
On November 04 2015 05:55 killerdog wrote:I find it really interesting how, with riven suddenly being really popular in pro games, they go such a different build then the historical tiamat rush. You'd think if it was as required as boxbox and other riven mains have said it is, the best top laners in the world would be doing it too :o It makes sense that you see people like huni skipping it in competitive though because tiamat fucks with wave management.
Although I dont think tiamat rush is that good regardless because it doesnt give cdr and that's so important on her ie brut cdr boots for immediate cdr capping and power spiking or brut bc for better lategame. (and if you look at a lot of say boxbox on probuilds, he delays tiamat/hydra until he gets his cdr capped)
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u guys over analyze it too much there are plenty of instances where pro player built questionable items cuz they liked it more/had perfect gold or whatever reason, i take boxbox experienced opinion over hunis build in 2 games any day
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On November 04 2015 08:01 kongoline wrote: u guys over analyze it too much there are plenty of instances where pro player built questionable items cuz they liked it more/had perfect gold or whatever reason, i take boxbox experienced opinion over hunis build in 2 games any day It's not just huni, it's huni smeb ssumday etc, all of them.
The idea that tiamat is "required" for her combos is pervasive enough that I'm sure at least some of those people have tried it.
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If they can really guarantee that you meet similarly grouped teams 95% of the time, its probably fine.
Although, 95% might still be kind of low. If you assume that a five stack would have liked a 75% winrate against a duo queue, then five stacking would generally mean you would average what like a 53% winrate? I dunno I need goumindong.
Point is even with them grouping five stacks against each other 95% of the time, it'll still be advantageous to only ranked as a 5 stack.
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At that point they should be forced to make a 5s team imo. Either that or have a steep MMR penalty.
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