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United States11393 Posts
On August 21 2015 13:09 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 12:59 Goumindong wrote:On August 21 2015 12:16 Gahlo wrote:On August 21 2015 08:12 Goumindong wrote:
I for one was shocked that they nerfed Viktor and Alistar but then didn't change Sivir or Kalista; easily the two most dominant champions(LCS) from the prior patches. Not surprised at all, honestly. ADC isn't really a position of power right now, so while champions like Sivir and Kali are crowding out others in their lane, and doing less and less so recently, they aren't crowding out many champions in other lanes. It's not like mid lane where Azir and Viktor were straight up bodying everybody when played by competent hands. uhh no that is not true. Viktor and Azir while the higher picked champions for LPL/LCK are not picked nearly as much as Sivir was. And the only reason Kalista isn't crowding out other ADs is because Kalista is banned in every game. In season 5 Summer Sivir was the second most picked champion in the game behind reksai. (Then gragas) It's about the same distance behind Sivir and Corki (who sucked) that ADs start showing up the mid laners start showing up in droves. And there are lots of them. Behind Sivir is basically no one, vayne, Lucian, Kog, and jinx all have a decent number of games but not compared to the drove of mid laners there. Behind them there is a hilariously huge gap to Ashe and Graves. As I figure it it looks like Sivir was picked in over half of all games played. Kalista was banned in nearly 70% (and picked in all the rest. She was picked or banned in 97% of all games. Indeed Viktor is only the third highest mid ban priority for Season 5. Behind Azir (twice as many bans) and LeBlanc (about the same bans). So it's not like Viktor and Asir had massive pick+ban percentage. There are four mid laners before you get to the next ADC after corki and Sivir. After than you run into mid laners are twice the density as ADs So uhh no. Viktor was not crowding out a bunch of mid laners. As fas as I can tell mid lane had the most diversity in season 5 except for maybe top lane. But it's close between them. Jungle has had the least. Then AD then support. AD also had, by far, the largest gap in win rate between the top champions and second tier. Azir and Viktor stop picks in other lanes from being picked far harder than any impact Sivir and Kalista does. And if we're looking at pick rate, go look up how Sivir hasn't even been picked or banned in LCK playoffs. In competant league, Viktor is absolutely crowding out picks. Teams that wanted to pick a low wave clear champion like Ezreal or Kassadin had to ban out Viktor is risk getting their shit pushed in all lane. But then again Viktor's bad so I guess that doesn't matter.
China really liked counterpicking Viktor with Kass though
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
lmfao
Reading the reddit thread gave me hypertension - SO MUCH SALT
If you got chat restricted you ruined so many games for so many people that you're among the 5% worst on your server. And now you're bitching that you won't get a border.
SUCK IT
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Except that the chat restriction system is retarded and not 100% fool proof.
Just hope you don't get a stroke due to the hypertension. Be safe.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 21 2015 14:25 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Except that the chat restriction system is retarded and not 100% fool proof.
Found the chat restricted player!
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People who complain about chat restrictions either have no understanding of statistics or severe delusions (or maybe both).
The only cases where it might not work are if you get consistently paired with the same players who report you out of spite, like in 3k elo.
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I'm not toxic, I just told that asshole everything he was doing this whole game was stupid.
(/sarcasm)
I've got a short temper and go off way more than I should, and I've never once been chat restricted. One shitty day of like 10 losing games in a row, I was muted by my whole team in at least 9 of them. Still no chat restriction. Several warnings, but no restriction. If you're more egregious than my embarassing assholery, yeah, you probably deserve that chat restriction.
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On August 21 2015 13:12 Goumindong wrote:
Ahh yes the "evidence that contradicts my hypothesis is wrong" defense.
Edit: I think that Viktor has been picked and banned less as the season progressed but I am not sure. I know the current power mid pick for professional is/was TF (who I think was banned basically all of the playoffs)
You literally brought out evidence that included Leblanc as a contested pick. If that is pertinent to Viktor's powerlevel on .14 and .15, then there can be no pleasing you.
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United States11393 Posts
Man watching sneaky play morde vs kalista janna is so hilarious.
He cant do shit vs them rofl.
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On August 21 2015 14:21 GrandInquisitor wrote:lmfao Reading the reddit thread gave me hypertension - SO MUCH SALT If you got chat restricted you ruined so many games for so many people that you're among the 5% worst on your server. And now you're bitching that you won't get a border. SUCK IT
There's more salt in that reddit thread than the Dead Sea.
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On August 21 2015 14:25 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Except that the chat restriction system is retarded and not 100% fool proof.
Just hope you don't get a stroke due to the hypertension. Be safe.
The trick is to say nothing and just feed intentionally
I'm still here and getting my rewards
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On August 21 2015 15:02 Harem wrote:
Man watching sneaky play morde vs kalista janna is so hilarious.
He cant do shit vs them rofl.
That shit was brutal, but whats he supposed to do with a friggin soraka supp?
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On August 21 2015 14:27 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 14:25 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Except that the chat restriction system is retarded and not 100% fool proof. Found the chat restricted player!
RIP, guess playing while in a bad mood was a horrible idea. I wouldn't mind if they had made this announcement at beginning of season instead of applying shit retroactively. There's just something wrong about retroactive punishments.
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Never been chat restricted. Still think the system is idiotic. Still doesn't punish actual things that affect my gameplay. Also prefer to be carried by an angry flamer than to be dragged down by a polite crapper.
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I'll take the crapper any day.
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On August 21 2015 15:34 cLutZ wrote:
Never been chat restricted. Still think the system is idiotic. Still doesn't punish actual things that affect my gameplay. Also prefer to be carried by an angry flamer than to be dragged down by a polite crapper.
I hate those players: they believe that because they're carrying they're entitled to belittling their team, meaning everyone else feels like shit and plays worse, so that they seem to be carrying even more. I report people who boast at the cost of their team on a regular basis.
Being carried is nice, but honestly I'd rather lose than have fed Riven say 'GG, carried this loser team, EZ'. Even better is when you're winning as a team and someone still thinks it's all because of them.
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United States37500 Posts
I'm amused with the salt. Goes back to the anger management thing we briefly talked about earlier today/yesterday.
Flaming doesn't bother me (use mute?) and I don't get angry enough to rage game after game. But if you rage and Riot has already told you that they don't want that, what can you really expect? Sure, it's retroactive but I don't really pity ragers that can't get some border for their account. You can still play the game, you just don't get some nice, shiny reward Riot gives out. Big whoop?
Edit: personally, I rather get carried by a flamer than get dragged down by a polite person. I play League to win games, etc.
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On August 21 2015 15:49 DarkCore wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 15:34 cLutZ wrote:
Never been chat restricted. Still think the system is idiotic. Still doesn't punish actual things that affect my gameplay. Also prefer to be carried by an angry flamer than to be dragged down by a polite crapper. I hate those players: they believe that because they're carrying they're entitled to belittling their team, meaning everyone else feels like shit and plays worse, so that they seem to be carrying even more. I report people who boast at the cost of their team on a regular basis. Being carried is nice, but honestly I'd rather lose than have fed Riven say 'GG, carried this loser team, EZ'. Even better is when you're winning as a team and someone still thinks it's all because of them.
Lets say you hate those players. Do you honestly hate them more than the intentional champ select trolls which Riot has continued to not deal with?
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On August 21 2015 14:27 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 14:25 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Except that the chat restriction system is retarded and not 100% fool proof. Found the chat restricted player!
Except I am not. g g no re. bb
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When do you get chat restriction and when ranked ban and when play ban? Providing that only reports that matter are verbal abuse related I cannot understand when is what
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