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On July 23 2015 11:55 Majax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 07:33 Sufficiency wrote:
I think he has a case of internalized racism where he just automatically assumes a Chinese company will do scummy and stupid things. The fact of the matter is, Tencent is not stupid and there is no way Tencent will allow XWX to compete in LPL should he be suspended by Riot - they have nothing to gain and everything to lose should they make such decision. Riot can only ban from LCS (and internation events than organize). When CLG members were banned from competing in OGN for 2 years, Riot didn't stopped them from competing in the LCS. I see no reason at all Tencent would act otherwise.
This is not how it works anymore. Raison was eloboosting in Korea and got banned in Garena, for example.
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This is really, really sad as a TIP fan, especially if Rush is implicated  . They both seemed like such nice guys.
Aside: The picture of XWX smiling and waving, juxtaposed with this serious headline, is just a little comical.
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On July 23 2015 13:27 ricecake wrote:This is really, really sad as a TIP fan, especially if Rush is implicated . They both seemed like such nice guys. Aside: The picture of XWX smiling and waving, juxtaposed with this serious headline, is just a little comical.
I've no idea as to what TiP even does now. Do they start Adrian as midlaner? Or Rhux? Unlike Gambit, they weren't given any notice about the impending suspension of one of their players before the cutoff point for signing on new players, so they didn't get a choice to brace for impact, so to say. And that's before even considering potential repercussions for Rush.
Then again, if one of TiP's managers was involved in this, he probably has no one to blame but himself.
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Gate is going to play mid, Adrian to support
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Rip LCS.
End of season banning shenanigans at work again.
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On July 23 2015 06:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 06:48 AlterKot wrote:On July 23 2015 06:27 Ansibled wrote:
Trick got a 12 game suspension and 60 hour community service.
Wait What What kind of community service and was that a Riot punishment or some other league's punishment? Riot Korea/KeSPA combo is rather harsh, nothing new. He was supposed to get way stricter punishment initially. Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 06:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 23 2015 06:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:32 Ansibled wrote:On July 23 2015 06:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:18 Sufficiency wrote:On July 23 2015 06:13 Ansibled wrote:On July 23 2015 06:12 Sufficiency wrote:
His career is over. Can always go back to China. You have to realize: 1. There is no way he could play for LPL again if he is suspended. You give Tencent too much credit for their ability to set the rules. 2. If XWX was wanted in China he would have gone back to play S5, like vasili. Tencent doesn't give a fuck about Riot, who cares, lol. Vasilii came back to be top-20 adc in LPL, not particularly impressive achievement and not like he was really wanted either. Plus it's not like XWX is going to get suspended for years. Garena is basically only place to throw big bans at eloboosters, Lilballz, Machi players and other were getting banned for 1-2 years, even for infinity before, while players in NA were getting banned for 2 weeks before. http://oce.lolesports.com/articles/competitive-ruling-shernfireRiot have recently given a fairly harsh ban for eloboosting. 'The penalties listed in the March 2013 ruling in NA are no longer applicable violations in 2015.'
TL;DR
Shern ‘Shernfire’ Tai has participated in Elo boosting on multiple occasions over the last 18 months, and has been declared ineligible for competitive play in any Riot-affiliated League of Legends competition for the remainder of the 2015 Season.
I mean, eloboosting consistently for 1,5 years is kinda different. Anyway, Brayl teased an article about XWX's eloboosting heroics, gotta wait for it to get some information. http://www.dailydot.com/esports/xiaoweixiao-suspended-elo-boosting/It's just a journalized version of the Reddit post from yesterday. Meh. $1400 isn't that much zz thought he was gonan drop some big figures. Yea, boring ;; Show nested quote +
Secondly, this will be a huge shitstorm and a PR nightmare, both for Tencent and for Riot.
Holy shit, Sufficiency. Do you seriously believe that league where Baixing exists will care about some benchwarmer is eloboosting.
whats Baixing
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Not everyone can live the apdo eloboosting dream rip sweet prince.
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On July 23 2015 09:36 Slusher wrote:
his team has an exclusive with Azubu iirc, so he probably wouldn't get many viewers
Oh wow I had completely forgotten Azubu even exists.
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On July 23 2015 23:15 Faker_Fanboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 06:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:48 AlterKot wrote:On July 23 2015 06:27 Ansibled wrote:
Trick got a 12 game suspension and 60 hour community service.
Wait What What kind of community service and was that a Riot punishment or some other league's punishment? Riot Korea/KeSPA combo is rather harsh, nothing new. He was supposed to get way stricter punishment initially. On July 23 2015 06:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 23 2015 06:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:32 Ansibled wrote:On July 23 2015 06:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:18 Sufficiency wrote:On July 23 2015 06:13 Ansibled wrote:On July 23 2015 06:12 Sufficiency wrote:
His career is over. Can always go back to China. You have to realize: 1. There is no way he could play for LPL again if he is suspended. You give Tencent too much credit for their ability to set the rules. 2. If XWX was wanted in China he would have gone back to play S5, like vasili. Tencent doesn't give a fuck about Riot, who cares, lol. Vasilii came back to be top-20 adc in LPL, not particularly impressive achievement and not like he was really wanted either. Plus it's not like XWX is going to get suspended for years. Garena is basically only place to throw big bans at eloboosters, Lilballz, Machi players and other were getting banned for 1-2 years, even for infinity before, while players in NA were getting banned for 2 weeks before. http://oce.lolesports.com/articles/competitive-ruling-shernfireRiot have recently given a fairly harsh ban for eloboosting. 'The penalties listed in the March 2013 ruling in NA are no longer applicable violations in 2015.'
TL;DR
Shern ‘Shernfire’ Tai has participated in Elo boosting on multiple occasions over the last 18 months, and has been declared ineligible for competitive play in any Riot-affiliated League of Legends competition for the remainder of the 2015 Season.
I mean, eloboosting consistently for 1,5 years is kinda different. Anyway, Brayl teased an article about XWX's eloboosting heroics, gotta wait for it to get some information. http://www.dailydot.com/esports/xiaoweixiao-suspended-elo-boosting/It's just a journalized version of the Reddit post from yesterday. Meh. $1400 isn't that much zz thought he was gonan drop some big figures. Yea, boring ;;
Secondly, this will be a huge shitstorm and a PR nightmare, both for Tencent and for Riot.
Holy shit, Sufficiency. Do you seriously believe that league where Baixing exists will care about some benchwarmer is eloboosting. whats Baixing
Bai Xing
I think this is background on him, i don't know much of what happened with LMQ
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/related/2iggsq/the_illegal_sale_of_team_lmq_lmqs_owner_tianci_is/
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On July 23 2015 23:15 Faker_Fanboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 06:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:48 AlterKot wrote:On July 23 2015 06:27 Ansibled wrote:
Trick got a 12 game suspension and 60 hour community service.
Wait What What kind of community service and was that a Riot punishment or some other league's punishment? Riot Korea/KeSPA combo is rather harsh, nothing new. He was supposed to get way stricter punishment initially. On July 23 2015 06:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 23 2015 06:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:32 Ansibled wrote:On July 23 2015 06:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 23 2015 06:18 Sufficiency wrote:On July 23 2015 06:13 Ansibled wrote:On July 23 2015 06:12 Sufficiency wrote:
His career is over. Can always go back to China. You have to realize: 1. There is no way he could play for LPL again if he is suspended. You give Tencent too much credit for their ability to set the rules. 2. If XWX was wanted in China he would have gone back to play S5, like vasili. Tencent doesn't give a fuck about Riot, who cares, lol. Vasilii came back to be top-20 adc in LPL, not particularly impressive achievement and not like he was really wanted either. Plus it's not like XWX is going to get suspended for years. Garena is basically only place to throw big bans at eloboosters, Lilballz, Machi players and other were getting banned for 1-2 years, even for infinity before, while players in NA were getting banned for 2 weeks before. http://oce.lolesports.com/articles/competitive-ruling-shernfireRiot have recently given a fairly harsh ban for eloboosting. 'The penalties listed in the March 2013 ruling in NA are no longer applicable violations in 2015.'
TL;DR
Shern ‘Shernfire’ Tai has participated in Elo boosting on multiple occasions over the last 18 months, and has been declared ineligible for competitive play in any Riot-affiliated League of Legends competition for the remainder of the 2015 Season.
I mean, eloboosting consistently for 1,5 years is kinda different. Anyway, Brayl teased an article about XWX's eloboosting heroics, gotta wait for it to get some information. http://www.dailydot.com/esports/xiaoweixiao-suspended-elo-boosting/It's just a journalized version of the Reddit post from yesterday. Meh. $1400 isn't that much zz thought he was gonan drop some big figures. Yea, boring ;;
Secondly, this will be a huge shitstorm and a PR nightmare, both for Tencent and for Riot.
Holy shit, Sufficiency. Do you seriously believe that league where Baixing exists will care about some benchwarmer is eloboosting. whats Baixing
Owner of Starhorn/King/Gamtee.
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He didn't say that at all. He said he didn't realize how serious of an issue it was, which completely lines up with how Chinese players view elo boosting as I've stated multiple times in this thread. It's just so commonplace on the Chinese servers that Chinese players treat elo boosting with about the same amount of disdain as they treat smurfing - as in, not much at all. More of a "ok it's a thing, whatever."
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For completely selfish reasons, I hope Riot don't throw the book at him. I really enjoy watching TiP play and I'd love to see how they'd go at worlds. They were looking on track for that before all this happened.
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Well I for one am glad that this might have just been a single case. I feared it could go much deeper.
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On July 24 2015 07:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:He didn't say that at all. He said he didn't realize how serious of an issue it was, which completely lines up with how Chinese players view elo boosting as I've stated multiple times in this thread. It's just so commonplace on the Chinese servers that Chinese players treat elo boosting with about the same amount of disdain as they treat smurfing - as in, not much at all. More of a "ok it's a thing, whatever."
Still there is no such thing as "a little forbidden". He knew that it was not allowed. Thinking there would only be a small punishment if caught does not really make it better.
Also he has been playing in NA for over 2 years now. Other players also have to know about rules as they are now, not how they were 3 years ago.
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It was almost certainly done with TIPs support. No other way 1400 dollars goes from one bank account to another without someone knowing about it.
Most likely done just because well, pro's gotta eat. And Riots individual salaries are kind of low/not sustaining without outside sponsorship/income.
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On July 24 2015 11:21 Goumindong wrote:
It was almost certainly done with TIPs support. No other way 1400 dollars goes from one bank account to another without someone knowing about it.
How do you figure that? If $1400 goes into my account my employer certainly doesn't hear about it.
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On July 24 2015 11:40 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 11:21 Goumindong wrote:
It was almost certainly done with TIPs support. No other way 1400 dollars goes from one bank account to another without someone knowing about it.
How do you figure that? If $1400 goes into my account my employer certainly doesn't hear about it.
If 1400 goes into your employers account then into your account they certainly do.
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Why is elo boosting such a big deal anyways? You're paying people that are good at the game to try hard at winning soloq, which is miles better for the competitiveness of a region than the current circlejerking everyone whines about.
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On July 24 2015 11:55 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 11:40 Amarok wrote:On July 24 2015 11:21 Goumindong wrote:
It was almost certainly done with TIPs support. No other way 1400 dollars goes from one bank account to another without someone knowing about it.
How do you figure that? If $1400 goes into my account my employer certainly doesn't hear about it. If 1400 goes into your employers account then into your account they certainly do.
I didn't catch the bit about the Alex Gu's email being the address provided.
Seems pretty hard to believe Gu didn't know the account was being used in that way but Riot would probably need more evidence than that to go ham on TiP as an org.
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