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[Patch 5.12] Runeglaive General Discussion - Page 22

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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 30 2015 22:48 GMT
#421
Teut how do you do the Garen versus Tryndamere lane?

I didn't do awful, but I really felt like I should have been able to really take his face and smash it into the ground. Also probably would have helped if I knew how to use Garen's ult in relation to Tryndamere's ult.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 23:52:07
June 30 2015 23:51 GMT
#422
On July 01 2015 07:48 Frudgey wrote:
Teut how do you do the Garen versus Tryndamere lane?

I didn't do awful, but I really felt like I should have been able to really take his face and smash it into the ground. Also probably would have helped if I knew how to use Garen's ult in relation to Tryndamere's ult.

RNG based matchup no way you can win /s

Prob rush tabis and max E and go cleaver and hope your ult surprises kills him

+ Show Spoiler +
or rush thornmail because thats good with 1600hp pool //s
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 01 2015 02:24 GMT
#423
Thornmail is very good when you have Garen regen yes.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
July 01 2015 05:59 GMT
#424
Idk, you can maybe wear him down. Not really fight him, only silence him once in a while while he comes to close, regen up. And then, when he's too low, SILENCE ULT HIS FACE and he ded dude. He so ded.
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nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
July 01 2015 06:09 GMT
#425
Silence and cc don't stop trynd ult
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 06:27:41
July 01 2015 06:25 GMT
#426
On July 01 2015 04:45 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 04:37 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote:
On June 30 2015 07:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
My hunch is that Soraka actually might get a little more gold than other supports b/c of her global, but you'd have to run some stats on data from one of those champ statistics websites. It's a little ironic that I just to disregard math and now I'm saying do math.

I usually build spellthief -> flask on Soraka to really try and win lane. I play her super aggressively. Have to check what I do with my masteries, but rune page is 2AP quint/1MS, mostly mpen with two hybrids thrown in, flat armor, scaling MR.

EDIT: Also I have Soraka as my avatar, so I can say "am Soraka, can confirm".


I don't get spell thief because I finding autoing very awkward on soraka. You can trade with you autos which are pretty shitty or you can let you adc trade while you heal 2x as much as it costs.


E and Q trigger spellthief too. Plus, the mana regen helps out and it builds into something sort of useful.

On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote:
On June 30 2015 09:34 Kinie wrote:
For me, I wonder how Talisman is on Raka after lane phase ends, like is the HP regen and active better than FotM active in certain situations?

In an ideal situation on SR, I feel like I would want to get FoTM/Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage/Mobi Boots/Ruby Sightstone/Zhonyas for a full item build as support Raka, but that might be wrong.


Your ideal build is probably zhonyas deathcap spirit visage GA and morellos or something with cdr. (prefeably 20 stack mejais but not always reasonable)

talisman is dumping 2200 gold into the toilet basically you don't even use the active that well on soraka because you are already fast with mobos. I'd much prefer warmogs than talisman even counting the extra cost from no gp10


Talisman is just pretty garbage these days honestly when Righteous Glory exists. That's a hell of an ambitious build with Raka lol. More realistically, I'd say mobi/sightstone/abyssal/frozen heart/banshee or SV/ sell frost queen for slot for pinks. Replace Frozen Heart with new Stark's now I guess.


On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote:
sorakas silence is quite underrated, its really strong against lots of champs
-Vlad wants to pool+zhonyas after going ham? nope
-Leblanc wants to jump in and one shot and jump out? nope you're staying here son
-galio lol
-rengar wants to one shot adc? buy oracles press E on where he jumps and he can't use any of his skills to one shot before adc can react
etc

Completely agree, her E is actually really good (long cooldown though). Almost-instant AOE silence with root? Yes please.


I tend to not use E to harass simply because its a huge cd, and yeah Q you don't fire that often and its not that easy to hit without getting close range so I'm definitely not convinced by that.

As for being an ambitious build, I don't know why its so ambitious. The assumption is that full build means you have enough gold to buy those items. I've never really gotten full build but I have gotten dcap/zhonya/boots/sightstone/mejais for example.

I think it's a cop out to build full tank on support just because its a safe option. If someone went mid lux with tank items everyone would go crazy but if you go locket +frozen heart support lux they wouldn't notice. I think people get away with bad builds on support because they don't usually get enough items for it to make a noticeable difference.

I say if you're staying in the back constantly it's your job to have the maximum output assuming you aren't zoned so fa back that you actually reduce what you do over building AP.
Like think of all the threat and autos a leona or nautilus or something will draw you have to compete with that when you're standing in the back with full tank items just using your abilities the same way a 0 item soraka can.


I'd definitely call a locket+fh support lux a baddie.

But I think there are more efficient ways to itemize on a soraka than zhonya+deathcap. Especially deathcap, which gets most of its value from having other big items in your inventory, but zhonyas too really, unless the enemy team has really good dive. I'd also challenge the assertion that talisman is a bad item just because RG is so good.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
July 01 2015 06:30 GMT
#427
On July 01 2015 15:09 nobodywonder wrote:
Silence and cc don't stop trynd ult


I thought silence did, my bad. Still, the silence is significant burst that'll make him spend his ult and if you have a thornmail/warmogs, you'll win against that stuff ezpz
Taxes are for Terrans
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
July 01 2015 06:55 GMT
#428
Dragon
Non-killing team receives Dragon timer at the first moment they see an enemy with Dragon buff or when they see the empty pit. [source].

Baron
Both teams now receive Baron timer when Baron dies. [source],

Rito pls
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
July 01 2015 07:04 GMT
#429
Why would Riot do that. That's even more cancer than the Garen advice on this page.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 07:41:50
July 01 2015 07:37 GMT
#430
On July 01 2015 15:55 739 wrote:
Dragon
Non-killing team receives Dragon timer at the first moment they see an enemy with Dragon buff or when they see the empty pit. [source].

Baron
Both teams now receive Baron timer when Baron dies. [source],

Rito pls


Well..

Does that really even change anything>?

Anyone who paid any attention knew this stuff within ~15s regardless.

Realistically just changes scenarios where one team was hard shitting on the other one regardless. If its closly contested, you know whats up, if its snuck, you have vision of enemy team somewhere already.

Just chjanges real low ELO and hard stomps where vision is able to be completely denied.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 01 2015 08:02 GMT
#431
On July 01 2015 16:37 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 15:55 739 wrote:
Dragon
Non-killing team receives Dragon timer at the first moment they see an enemy with Dragon buff or when they see the empty pit. [source].

Baron
Both teams now receive Baron timer when Baron dies. [source],

Rito pls


Well..

Does that really even change anything>?

Anyone who paid any attention knew this stuff within ~15s regardless.

Realistically just changes scenarios where one team was hard shitting on the other one regardless. If its closly contested, you know whats up, if its snuck, you have vision of enemy team somewhere already.

Just chjanges real low ELO and hard stomps where vision is able to be completely denied.

From my perspective, it's just lame though. I get it and I understand in reality it's not going to change much, but it's just a bit lame.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 01 2015 08:16 GMT
#432
I kind of don't understand how the new devourer fits into the game (not shitty) without always teetering on the edge of the old feral flare "horror story".
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 01 2015 08:17 GMT
#433
On July 01 2015 17:16 cLutZ wrote:
I kind of don't understand how the new devourer fits into the game (not shitty) without always teetering on the edge of the old feral flare "horror story".

Guess Rito really wants to bring back carry junglers.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 01 2015 08:29 GMT
#434
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 09:18:53
July 01 2015 09:15 GMT
#435
On July 01 2015 17:02 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 16:37 iCanada wrote:
On July 01 2015 15:55 739 wrote:
Dragon
Non-killing team receives Dragon timer at the first moment they see an enemy with Dragon buff or when they see the empty pit. [source].

Baron
Both teams now receive Baron timer when Baron dies. [source],

Rito pls


Well..

Does that really even change anything>?

Anyone who paid any attention knew this stuff within ~15s regardless.

Realistically just changes scenarios where one team was hard shitting on the other one regardless. If its closly contested, you know whats up, if its snuck, you have vision of enemy team somewhere already.

Just chjanges real low ELO and hard stomps where vision is able to be completely denied.

From my perspective, it's just lame though. I get it and I understand in reality it's not going to change much, but it's just a bit lame.


Yeah, I agree. Just pointing out this was a design decision they made at the end of the season when they first introduced new Drag.

On July 01 2015 17:29 krndandaman wrote:
i hope it's not anything like feral flare.
the short time feral flare was op was the worst. such a boring way to play.


You know, I dont get why they dont just make it into a poor-mans BotRK same way they made Cinderhulk / Runeglaive poor mans Sunfire / Lichbane.


On July 01 2015 17:17 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 17:16 cLutZ wrote:
I kind of don't understand how the new devourer fits into the game (not shitty) without always teetering on the edge of the old feral flare "horror story".

Guess Rito really wants to bring back carry junglers.


Until you know, Junglers can actually carry the game, at which poiint in time they will nerf them out of existance again.... just like the other 10 times.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 01 2015 09:31 GMT
#436
On July 01 2015 17:16 cLutZ wrote:
I kind of don't understand how the new devourer fits into the game (not shitty) without always teetering on the edge of the old feral flare "horror story".

It's honestly the best iteration they've done for an auto focused jungler. Being an on attack effect cuts down on a lot of abuse.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 11:39:45
July 01 2015 11:34 GMT
#437
It's your boy Guzma!
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 01 2015 11:36 GMT
#438
On July 01 2015 20:34 Requizen wrote:
So I have this Golden Toshley. Is he worth keeping or should I just DE him and craft another Legendary since I basically have none?

Think you're on the wrong Liquid page lol, but get Dr. Boom instead.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 11:38:22
July 01 2015 11:38 GMT
#439
Which runes do u guys run on ekko cinderhulk jungle?

I've tried red attack speed yellow scaling hp blue cdr quints armor.
Worked quite well,but not sure if a build with ap quints and ap blue would be better to have more dmg early on.

...
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 01 2015 11:39 GMT
#440
On July 01 2015 20:36 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 20:34 Requizen wrote:
So I have this Golden Toshley. Is he worth keeping or should I just DE him and craft another Legendary since I basically have none?

Think you're on the wrong Liquid page lol, but get Dr. Boom instead.

That's what I get for having multiple tabs open >.<
It's your boy Guzma!
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