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On July 01 2015 00:59 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 00:17 Caiada wrote:On June 30 2015 23:00 ticklishmusic wrote: I take it back, Soraka has good itemization now.
Dunno exactly what the active does thoughm is it the thing that's triggered at full charges or whatever? Activating it just chooses who you're tied to. Passive is the actual effect and works like Shiv/Luden's. Gotcha so its like Kalista sort of, you just pick your buddy for the game?
Similar concept, but you can change it every minute, if you'd rather be attached to your APC, like if your AD's behind or something.
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On July 01 2015 02:04 Caiada wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 00:59 ticklishmusic wrote:On July 01 2015 00:17 Caiada wrote:On June 30 2015 23:00 ticklishmusic wrote: I take it back, Soraka has good itemization now.
Dunno exactly what the active does thoughm is it the thing that's triggered at full charges or whatever? Activating it just chooses who you're tied to. Passive is the actual effect and works like Shiv/Luden's. Gotcha so its like Kalista sort of, you just pick your buddy for the game? Similar concept, but you can change it every minute, if you'd rather be attached to your APC, like if your AD's behind or something. Can Kalista buy additional black spears to change the soulbound? If not, she should imo.
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you can buy additional spears but you can't change it IIRC logic
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I'm pretty sure you can, just had a game last week where the kalista changed the soulbound. it was at the beginning of the round tho. also
also Its buggy
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I believe you're able to cancel the soulbound if its not complete yet or something
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On June 30 2015 07:34 ticklishmusic wrote: My hunch is that Soraka actually might get a little more gold than other supports b/c of her global, but you'd have to run some stats on data from one of those champ statistics websites. It's a little ironic that I just to disregard math and now I'm saying do math.
I usually build spellthief -> flask on Soraka to really try and win lane. I play her super aggressively. Have to check what I do with my masteries, but rune page is 2AP quint/1MS, mostly mpen with two hybrids thrown in, flat armor, scaling MR.
EDIT: Also I have Soraka as my avatar, so I can say "am Soraka, can confirm".
I don't get spell thief because I finding autoing very awkward on soraka. You can trade with you autos which are pretty shitty or you can let you adc trade while you heal 2x as much as it costs.
On June 30 2015 09:30 Alaric wrote: To be fair, Soraka does need some HP to not straight-up die to an AoE initiation (or the follow-up if you need to get in range of an ally initiated upon that the enemy team will swarm, you don't have a Lantern), and HP > resists in terms of EHP early on and on squishies, but not to the extent of Warmogs.
no she doesn't, you shouldn't get hit by aoe initiations, pretty much ever. There may be cases where you want to heal someone getting swarmed but in that case you'll lose a lot of hp healing anyway so the advantage of hp becomes outweighed super fast especially with so much healing on low hp starcalls and R
On June 30 2015 09:34 Kinie wrote: For me, I wonder how Talisman is on Raka after lane phase ends, like is the HP regen and active better than FotM active in certain situations?
In an ideal situation on SR, I feel like I would want to get FoTM/Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage/Mobi Boots/Ruby Sightstone/Zhonyas for a full item build as support Raka, but that might be wrong.
Your ideal build is probably zhonyas deathcap spirit visage GA and morellos or something with cdr. (prefeably 20 stack mejais but not always reasonable)
talisman is dumping 2200 gold into the toilet basically you don't even use the active that well on soraka because you are already fast with mobos. I'd much prefer warmogs than talisman even counting the extra cost from no gp10
sorakas silence is quite underrated, its really strong against lots of champs -Vlad wants to pool+zhonyas after going ham? nope -Leblanc wants to jump in and one shot and jump out? nope you're staying here son -galio lol -rengar wants to one shot adc? buy oracles press E on where he jumps and he can't use any of his skills to one shot before adc can react etc
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Aaaaand drop hackers strike again. 4th time in a few days. If I were a stupid redditor I'd probably post a riot please thread right now.
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I haven't watched LCS since some time last season and I go today to catch up on the stats for kicks
What the butts happened to C9?
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On July 01 2015 04:21 Requizen wrote: I haven't watched LCS since some time last season and I go today to catch up on the stats for kicks
What the butts happened to C9?
lost their shotcaller, still adjusting doesnt seem to work yet
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On July 01 2015 04:21 Requizen wrote: I haven't watched LCS since some time last season and I go today to catch up on the stats for kicks
What the butts happened to C9?
NA is a bit of a shit fest atm, wait till playoffs for any decisive games. In the mean time I suggest watching the upper tier of EU and some LPL/LCK. Cloud 9 has weird shotcalling and decision making, especially late game, which is a drastic change from their usual play.
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On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 07:34 ticklishmusic wrote: My hunch is that Soraka actually might get a little more gold than other supports b/c of her global, but you'd have to run some stats on data from one of those champ statistics websites. It's a little ironic that I just to disregard math and now I'm saying do math.
I usually build spellthief -> flask on Soraka to really try and win lane. I play her super aggressively. Have to check what I do with my masteries, but rune page is 2AP quint/1MS, mostly mpen with two hybrids thrown in, flat armor, scaling MR.
EDIT: Also I have Soraka as my avatar, so I can say "am Soraka, can confirm". I don't get spell thief because I finding autoing very awkward on soraka. You can trade with you autos which are pretty shitty or you can let you adc trade while you heal 2x as much as it costs.
E and Q trigger spellthief too. Plus, the mana regen helps out and it builds into something sort of useful.
On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 09:34 Kinie wrote: For me, I wonder how Talisman is on Raka after lane phase ends, like is the HP regen and active better than FotM active in certain situations?
In an ideal situation on SR, I feel like I would want to get FoTM/Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage/Mobi Boots/Ruby Sightstone/Zhonyas for a full item build as support Raka, but that might be wrong. Your ideal build is probably zhonyas deathcap spirit visage GA and morellos or something with cdr. (prefeably 20 stack mejais but not always reasonable) talisman is dumping 2200 gold into the toilet basically you don't even use the active that well on soraka because you are already fast with mobos. I'd much prefer warmogs than talisman even counting the extra cost from no gp10
Talisman is just pretty garbage these days honestly when Righteous Glory exists. That's a hell of an ambitious build with Raka lol. More realistically, I'd say mobi/sightstone/abyssal/frozen heart/banshee or SV/ sell frost queen for slot for pinks. Replace Frozen Heart with new Stark's now I guess.
On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote: sorakas silence is quite underrated, its really strong against lots of champs -Vlad wants to pool+zhonyas after going ham? nope -Leblanc wants to jump in and one shot and jump out? nope you're staying here son -galio lol -rengar wants to one shot adc? buy oracles press E on where he jumps and he can't use any of his skills to one shot before adc can react etc Completely agree, her E is actually really good (long cooldown though). Almost-instant AOE silence with root? Yes please.
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On July 01 2015 04:21 Requizen wrote: I haven't watched LCS since some time last season and I go today to catch up on the stats for kicks
What the butts happened to C9?
Hai is a god tier shotcaller apparently, sooooo they kinda suck without him. I'd also argue Hai is probably a better player than Incarnation, he just has a unique style and a small champion pool that started becoming a problem.
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On July 01 2015 04:37 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2015 07:34 ticklishmusic wrote: My hunch is that Soraka actually might get a little more gold than other supports b/c of her global, but you'd have to run some stats on data from one of those champ statistics websites. It's a little ironic that I just to disregard math and now I'm saying do math.
I usually build spellthief -> flask on Soraka to really try and win lane. I play her super aggressively. Have to check what I do with my masteries, but rune page is 2AP quint/1MS, mostly mpen with two hybrids thrown in, flat armor, scaling MR.
EDIT: Also I have Soraka as my avatar, so I can say "am Soraka, can confirm". I don't get spell thief because I finding autoing very awkward on soraka. You can trade with you autos which are pretty shitty or you can let you adc trade while you heal 2x as much as it costs. E and Q trigger spellthief too. Plus, the mana regen helps out and it builds into something sort of useful. Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2015 09:34 Kinie wrote: For me, I wonder how Talisman is on Raka after lane phase ends, like is the HP regen and active better than FotM active in certain situations?
In an ideal situation on SR, I feel like I would want to get FoTM/Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage/Mobi Boots/Ruby Sightstone/Zhonyas for a full item build as support Raka, but that might be wrong. Your ideal build is probably zhonyas deathcap spirit visage GA and morellos or something with cdr. (prefeably 20 stack mejais but not always reasonable) talisman is dumping 2200 gold into the toilet basically you don't even use the active that well on soraka because you are already fast with mobos. I'd much prefer warmogs than talisman even counting the extra cost from no gp10 Talisman is just pretty garbage these days honestly when Righteous Glory exists. That's a hell of an ambitious build with Raka lol. More realistically, I'd say mobi/sightstone/abyssal/frozen heart/banshee or SV/ sell frost queen for slot for pinks. Replace Frozen Heart with new Stark's now I guess. Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 02:58 Slayer91 wrote: sorakas silence is quite underrated, its really strong against lots of champs -Vlad wants to pool+zhonyas after going ham? nope -Leblanc wants to jump in and one shot and jump out? nope you're staying here son -galio lol -rengar wants to one shot adc? buy oracles press E on where he jumps and he can't use any of his skills to one shot before adc can react etc Completely agree, her E is actually really good (long cooldown though). Almost-instant AOE silence with root? Yes please.
I tend to not use E to harass simply because its a huge cd, and yeah Q you don't fire that often and its not that easy to hit without getting close range so I'm definitely not convinced by that.
As for being an ambitious build, I don't know why its so ambitious. The assumption is that full build means you have enough gold to buy those items. I've never really gotten full build but I have gotten dcap/zhonya/boots/sightstone/mejais for example.
I think it's a cop out to build full tank on support just because its a safe option. If someone went mid lux with tank items everyone would go crazy but if you go locket +frozen heart support lux they wouldn't notice. I think people get away with bad builds on support because they don't usually get enough items for it to make a noticeable difference.
I say if you're staying in the back constantly it's your job to have the maximum output assuming you aren't zoned so fa back that you actually reduce what you do over building AP. Like think of all the threat and autos a leona or nautilus or something will draw you have to compete with that when you're standing in the back with full tank items just using your abilities the same way a 0 item soraka can.
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Uh... Playing J4, I cast my flag inside terrain. That's impossible normally, right? It moves outside, like dashes and stuff do. I missed a EQ pull and after looking at it, the flag was sticking out from the rocky formation lining the river toward blue buff.
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Slight Shyvana nerfs already, I can kind of understand them given that shes likely to benefit a ton from sated devourer but it always hurts when your main gets swatted with the bat. Better then her becoming OP then getting gutted
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I don't think Skarner with Runeglaive is extraordinarily OP, but I do feel that most players on my level have totally forgotten how to play against a Skarner...
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On July 01 2015 03:34 krndandaman wrote:Haven't seen a post about this and I'm not sure if this is something new that was changed in a recent patch or just left unnoticed. So basically for the blue buff on red side (top half of map) you can do blue buff without it reaching you or resetting on any RANGED champion. I tried on the other buffs/camps but I haven't found any other ways for the other buffs. Reproduction rate is 100%. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8cADHen.jpg) So basically you just start autoing from that position, about 1 and a half teemos away from the left wall. The only damage you'll take is from the little ranged ones. The big golem gets creep blocked by the little ones so don't kill the little ones first. thought it was interesting/somewhat useful. idk maybe you guys all knew about this and i'm dumb lol Nothing new, just not widely known.
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Jungling with ranged champs isnt new but a few patches ago they change the maximum leashes before aggro resets and that really screwed over ranged jungle champs. Good find
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On July 01 2015 06:17 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 03:34 krndandaman wrote:Haven't seen a post about this and I'm not sure if this is something new that was changed in a recent patch or just left unnoticed. So basically for the blue buff on red side (top half of map) you can do blue buff without it reaching you or resetting on any RANGED champion. I tried on the other buffs/camps but I haven't found any other ways for the other buffs. Reproduction rate is 100%. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8cADHen.jpg) So basically you just start autoing from that position, about 1 and a half teemos away from the left wall. The only damage you'll take is from the little ranged ones. The big golem gets creep blocked by the little ones so don't kill the little ones first. thought it was interesting/somewhat useful. idk maybe you guys all knew about this and i'm dumb lol Nothing new, just not widely known. it's much easier for blue to get stuck behind the small golems now than it has been in previous patches.
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