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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 27 2015 14:42 GMT
#241
On June 27 2015 23:22 Ansibled wrote:
MLG Summer Arena

Ahh, the tournament I became a Curse fan. Worked out in the long run I suppose.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 27 2015 14:43 GMT
#242
On June 27 2015 23:22 Ansibled wrote:
MLG Summer Arena

Right, been so long.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 27 2015 15:12 GMT
#243
On June 27 2015 23:13 Jek wrote:
If only a shotcaller could be a 6th role...


You mean, like a coach in real sports? :-D

Riot should give it some serious consideration, actually...
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 27 2015 15:54 GMT
#244
On June 28 2015 00:12 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 23:13 Jek wrote:
If only a shotcaller could be a 6th role...


You mean, like a coach in real sports? :-D

Riot should give it some serious consideration, actually...

Yeah. I think it'd be really interesting to see a coach constantly in contact with his team during the game.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 27 2015 16:06 GMT
#245
On June 28 2015 00:54 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 00:12 Nemireck wrote:
On June 27 2015 23:13 Jek wrote:
If only a shotcaller could be a 6th role...


You mean, like a coach in real sports? :-D

Riot should give it some serious consideration, actually...

Yeah. I think it'd be really interesting to see a coach constantly in contact with his team during the game.


As long as the coach is working with the same limited information as the rest of his team, I think it would be pretty fantastic, actually.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 27 2015 16:24 GMT
#246
On June 28 2015 01:06 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 00:54 Jek wrote:
On June 28 2015 00:12 Nemireck wrote:
On June 27 2015 23:13 Jek wrote:
If only a shotcaller could be a 6th role...


You mean, like a coach in real sports? :-D

Riot should give it some serious consideration, actually...

Yeah. I think it'd be really interesting to see a coach constantly in contact with his team during the game.


As long as the coach is working with the same limited information as the rest of his team, I think it would be pretty fantastic, actually.

Yeah, exactly. Lets start a petition for Riot to ignore.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
June 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#247
would be like having someone on the pitch telling players what to do
thats not what a coach does at all
aka Teutonica
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
June 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#248
I'd love to see a showmatch where the five players have locked camera and pings/minimap disabled, with a coach in the booth with private access to a map and unlocked camera. If nothing else, it'd be a fun trust-building exercise and a great source of entertainment.
Trust in Bayes.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
June 27 2015 17:17 GMT
#249
On June 28 2015 02:11 Slayer91 wrote:
would be like having someone on the pitch telling players what to do
thats not what a coach does at all


I can see it working out similar to football coaches while a match is running. They shout more or less strategic things towards the field and noone reacts to it.
NotMeEver
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States100 Posts
June 27 2015 17:34 GMT
#250
On June 27 2015 12:59 iCanada wrote:
Hai's shotcalling is ridiculous.

Watching him play ranked 5s, honesty, dude is like micromanaging all five of his players.

Like three fights happening cross map, making target calls in all three. damn.


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FBI Special Agent Francis York Morgan. Please, just call me York. That's what everyone calls me.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 27 2015 17:59 GMT
#251
On June 28 2015 02:11 Slayer91 wrote:
would be like having someone on the pitch telling players what to do
thats not what a coach does at all


I'm picturing things like basketball and football (both versions), specifically. Which is exactly what coaches do during the game in addition to selecting which players get to go on the field. Oh, and baseball as well. Also hockey.

So pretty much ya, exactly how a coach is used during a game in most team sports.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 18:03:31
June 27 2015 18:03 GMT
#252
There is a very big difference in yelling from the side and being on comms.Also it would entirely remove the shotcalling during playing which is impressive to watch when the good teams do it.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 18:10:27
June 27 2015 18:09 GMT
#253
On June 28 2015 02:34 NotMeEver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 12:59 iCanada wrote:
Hai's shotcalling is ridiculous.

Watching him play ranked 5s, honesty, dude is like micromanaging all five of his players.

Like three fights happening cross map, making target calls in all three. damn.


[image loading]


User was warned for this post

All hail the one true esports god.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 18:26:10
June 27 2015 18:25 GMT
#254
On June 28 2015 03:03 nafta wrote:
... it would entirely remove the shotcalling during playing which is impressive to watch when the good teams do it.


No it wouldn't. It just adds the coaches voice into the mix. I would also find it incredibly unlikely that the coach would have any input during teamfights and other high-action situations. They would be on comms more specifically for strategical input.

... Just like in real team-sports.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 27 2015 18:34 GMT
#255
On June 28 2015 03:25 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 03:03 nafta wrote:
... it would entirely remove the shotcalling during playing which is impressive to watch when the good teams do it.


No it wouldn't. It just adds the coaches voice into the mix. I would also find it incredibly unlikely that the coach would have any input during teamfights and other high-action situations. They would be on comms more specifically for strategical input.

... Just like in real team-sports.

Pretty much all teams play fights by intuition and just shout who to focus wouldnt call that shotcalling but rotations,when to give up/trade objectives and if you should play aggressive or safe is something that can be pretty hard to recognise while playing.

And no shouting from the side and talking to your players in the breaks is very different than being on a fucking call with everyone and being able to give clear directions.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 27 2015 19:29 GMT
#256
On June 28 2015 03:34 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 03:25 Nemireck wrote:
On June 28 2015 03:03 nafta wrote:
... it would entirely remove the shotcalling during playing which is impressive to watch when the good teams do it.


No it wouldn't. It just adds the coaches voice into the mix. I would also find it incredibly unlikely that the coach would have any input during teamfights and other high-action situations. They would be on comms more specifically for strategical input.

... Just like in real team-sports.

Pretty much all teams play fights by intuition and just shout who to focus wouldnt call that shotcalling but rotations,when to give up/trade objectives and if you should play aggressive or safe is something that can be pretty hard to recognise while playing.

And no shouting from the side and talking to your players in the breaks is very different than being on a fucking call with everyone and being able to give clear directions.


Not really...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d809f61c6/article/nfl-installs-new-coachtodefense-communications-system

The NFL has direct calls between the Quarterback / Offensive Coordinator / Head Coach, as well as between the "Captain of Defence" / Defensive Coordinator / Head coach.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
June 27 2015 20:00 GMT
#257
nfl is quite the exception
aka Teutonica
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 27 2015 20:06 GMT
#258
On June 28 2015 03:34 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 03:25 Nemireck wrote:
On June 28 2015 03:03 nafta wrote:
... it would entirely remove the shotcalling during playing which is impressive to watch when the good teams do it.


No it wouldn't. It just adds the coaches voice into the mix. I would also find it incredibly unlikely that the coach would have any input during teamfights and other high-action situations. They would be on comms more specifically for strategical input.

... Just like in real team-sports.

Pretty much all teams play fights by intuition and just shout who to focus wouldnt call that shotcalling but rotations,when to give up/trade objectives and if you should play aggressive or safe is something that can be pretty hard to recognise while playing.

And no shouting from the side and talking to your players in the breaks is very different than being on a fucking call with everyone and being able to give clear directions.


It's not that different at all.

I don't see the big difference you do between "Take top turret" and "Play this set" shouted from the sideline in basketball.

I don't see the big difference you do between "Top bot turret" and "Attack left side" shouted from the sideline in soccer.

I don't see the big difference you do between "Dragon!" and "Steal on this pitch" from the base coach in baseball.

I don't see the big difference you do between "Don't do Baron yet!" and "whatever the coach yells at his players from the bench" in hockey.

I don't see the big difference you do between "Take their mid inhib, then go Baron" and "Use X play" over the comms from a football coach.

You'll need to explain to me how they're different.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 27 2015 20:07 GMT
#259
NFL also has normal breaks in play.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 27 2015 20:16 GMT
#260
On June 28 2015 05:07 Goumindong wrote:
NFL also has normal breaks in play.


So does LoL.

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