EPTWhile it may seem small, considering human reaction time threshold, it makes a huge difference.
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
While it may seem small, considering human reaction time threshold, it makes a huge difference. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35142 Posts
On June 14 2015 12:12 iCanada wrote: Quick, how the hell to people rune Eve jungle? http://champion.gg/champion/Evelynn | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Yea, us East coasters have been playing nerfed Leblanc all along! | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On June 14 2015 12:09 wei2coolman wrote: While it may seem small, considering human reaction time threshold, it makes a huge difference. taking ping into account i don't think it's significant at all. it might feel different for the person playing it but for the people playing against her it wouldn't be noticeable | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On June 14 2015 12:49 Frolossus wrote: taking ping into account i don't think it's significant at all. it might feel different for the person playing it but for the people playing against her it wouldn't be noticeable Median human reaction time is about .2 seconds for a non-mechanical action when you're prepared for it So if you change something from .348 to .435 seconds that will have a very significant effect on the ability of people to react to an ability use. http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 14 2015 12:49 Frolossus wrote: taking ping into account i don't think it's significant at all. it might feel different for the person playing it but for the people playing against her it wouldn't be noticeable Well I play with sub 20 ping most of the time. So..... | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On June 14 2015 13:34 Goumindong wrote: Median human reaction time is about .2 seconds for a non-mechanical action when you're prepared for it So if you change something from .348 to .435 seconds that will have a very significant effect on the ability of people to react to an ability use. http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime i don't understand. how does a person taking .2 seconds to react to something help them react after it was changed by .087? shouldn't they not be able to react because it is less then .2? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 14 2015 13:54 Frolossus wrote: i don't understand. how does a person taking .2 seconds to react to something help them react after it was changed by .087? shouldn't they not be able to react because it is less then .2? Threshold is very different mechanic than percent change. Think of threshold as prerequisites to do an action for a person. The leblanc w changes is significant enough that it matches with people's threshold to react, before it was below most people's reaction time. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I been running her in the jungle w/ exhaust should I need to gank, and man you end up as farmed as solo laners. With Challenging smite and nearly full tank (Maybe add a Hexdrinker / Lifesteal item depending on game) you can be near the top of the damage charts at the end of the game. So so tanky, you press R then Smite+Exhuast their AD while you have like 5k HP w/ 300 armor and 200 MR. Just... you know dont expect your laners to be too impressed when you can't gank that well. That being said, I find people play a little dumber when you jungle Shy than when you jungle other jungles, die to ganks they normally wouldnt be in danger of. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On June 14 2015 14:45 iCanada wrote: Shyvana with those W buffs hits like an absolute truck. Not a huge buff, but definitely noticeable. I been running her in the jungle w/ exhaust should I need to gank, and man you end up as farmed as solo laners. With Challenging smite and nearly full tank (Maybe add a Hexdrinker / Lifesteal item depending on game) you can be near the top of the damage charts at the end of the game. So so tanky, you press R then Smite+Exhuast their AD while you have like 5k HP w/ 300 armor and 200 MR. Just... you know dont expect your laners to be too impressed when you can't gank that well. That being said, I find people play a little dumber when you jungle Shy than when you jungle other jungles, die to ganks they normally wouldnt be in danger of. been doing the same thing but with chilling smite at 30 minutes you come out with 70+ devourer stacks and full build then just win | ||
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kongoline
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
In-elegant perhaps, but who needs elegance when you can turn into a dragon and kill everything. /shrug Chilling smite might actually be stronger mid game, not sure. I like Challenging smite though because you can get pretty cheeky and just straight up kill solo lanes that think they have you dead. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Stalkers early on because you really need the slow utility over more damage early on but you swap to Skirmishers later (once you have 4th item or later). Too many times pre-6 or when ulti is down that people Flash or jump away and Burnout is down, a free kill just runs away to safety. I think I used to run Smite/Exhaust last season but I went back to Flash because what's better than have one gap closer? Two. You pretty much build full on tank with one offensive item. I think I prefer Bork the most on her. Could be using the Shyvana thread but hue. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
The damage is retarded. I just picked her up again after almost a year of not touching her yesterday. Spamming team builder just to get her down again. So I have actually a little control over what teams I play with - I take lobbies with a tanky jungle and strong laning phase champs OR competetive picks in the solo lanes. 8-2 so far and it is retarded how EASY those games are. One loss was some weird shit where we were HARD outclassed everywhere and I played really bad as well. I just tell my ADC before every game to just chill out, farm and auto them when they overextend. To not greed on them when they get low and just force them b. As long as my ADC doesn't die it doesn't matter what happens, I just win bot lane on my own. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Her base damage is still retarded because plants though. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
He has the most smoothest style i have ever seen. I mean his playstyle cant be explained by words, just watch it and you'll see. Also Bard+Cassio combo on KR server is godlike. | ||
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