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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 24 2015 19:19 GMT
#1341
he's just not always looking for the gg easy answer
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 24 2015 19:20 GMT
#1342
lol

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Deriao
Profile Joined April 2015
United States132 Posts
May 24 2015 19:20 GMT
#1343
Can you people stop being dumb for a moment to look at this: http://www.op.gg/ranking/ladder/
Apparently TIP jungler has somehow reached #1 on Solo queue challenger in Korea. This probably won't mean too much ,but it's still a fantastic achievement.
.....
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-24 19:24:02
May 24 2015 19:22 GMT
#1344
On May 25 2015 04:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 04:02 Frolossus wrote:
On May 25 2015 03:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Allow me to voice my opinion on how much I dislike the new Ashe. Why bother changing her, who was perfectly fine, when there are so many other problems with the game?

- Taric
- Gankplank
- Warwick
- Mordekaiser
- Yorick
- Urgot (one way or another)
- Poppy

honestly ashe wasn't fine. mobility creep and better assassins made her never picked.

Her remake did nothing to address those issues. lol.

i'm not saying riot made the correct changes, just that they were correct in needing to change something.
riot has a terrible track record for making the correct changes.

On May 25 2015 04:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 04:02 Frolossus wrote:
On May 25 2015 03:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Allow me to voice my opinion on how much I dislike the new Ashe. Why bother changing her, who was perfectly fine, when there are so many other problems with the game?

- Taric
- Gankplank
- Warwick
- Mordekaiser
- Yorick
- Urgot (one way or another)
- Poppy

honestly ashe wasn't fine. mobility creep and better assassins made her never picked.


She was picked often enough and played in a way that was relatively healthy. You have to be incredibly biased to think the old Ashe was weak.

in my personal games, she hasn't been picked in the last 500~ games i had before the rework.
in LCS she wasn't picked much last split either. i don't think it's biased to state that most other ADCs outclassed her pretty hard.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 24 2015 19:22 GMT
#1345
On May 25 2015 04:22 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 04:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:02 Frolossus wrote:
On May 25 2015 03:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Allow me to voice my opinion on how much I dislike the new Ashe. Why bother changing her, who was perfectly fine, when there are so many other problems with the game?

- Taric
- Gankplank
- Warwick
- Mordekaiser
- Yorick
- Urgot (one way or another)
- Poppy

honestly ashe wasn't fine. mobility creep and better assassins made her never picked.

Her remake did nothing to address those issues. lol.

i'm not saying riot made the correct changes, just that they were correct in needing to change something.
riot has a terrible track record for making the correct changes.

so is anyone here going to defend ryze being a good champion
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 24 2015 19:23 GMT
#1346
On May 25 2015 04:17 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 04:17 cLutZ wrote:
TIL: xD is an emoticon.

Why would it not be?:o

I have meandered through life reading it as "ex Dee" and affording it no meaning.
Freeeeeeedom
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-24 19:24:54
May 24 2015 19:24 GMT
#1347
On May 25 2015 04:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 04:02 Frolossus wrote:
On May 25 2015 03:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Allow me to voice my opinion on how much I dislike the new Ashe. Why bother changing her, who was perfectly fine, when there are so many other problems with the game?

- Taric
- Gankplank
- Warwick
- Mordekaiser
- Yorick
- Urgot (one way or another)
- Poppy

honestly ashe wasn't fine. mobility creep and better assassins made her never picked.


She was picked often enough and played in a way that was relatively healthy. You have to be incredibly biased to think the old Ashe was weak.

Again, what metric? In pro play, I wouldn't consider it biased at all. I think the last time we saw Ashe was with C9 back in the first season of LCS when Sneaky wasn't considered a hard carry. idek if she was ever picked in the east.
I actually think the Ashe remake is a success (compared to, say, Ryze) and will probably push Ashe into the realm of competitive play.

Do you actually think remake is bad or you just salty that Ashe got a remake before other lagging champs?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
May 24 2015 19:24 GMT
#1348
On May 25 2015 04:20 Deriao wrote:
Can you people stop being dumb for a moment to look at this: http://www.op.gg/ranking/ladder/
Apparently TIP jungler has somehow reached #1 on Solo queue challenger in Korea. This probably won't mean too much ,but it's still a fantastic achievement.


he's been #1 before already tho and he's known to be a solo queue god
if anything, I'm impressed by his offroles. particularly his adc kogmaw
TL/SKT
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 24 2015 19:25 GMT
#1349
pretty sure imp trollpicked ashe once or twice but other than that..
A backwards poet writes inverse.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 24 2015 19:26 GMT
#1350
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 24 2015 19:28 GMT
#1351
On May 25 2015 04:20 Deriao wrote:
Can you people stop being dumb for a moment to look at this: http://www.op.gg/ranking/ladder/
Apparently TIP jungler has somehow reached #1 on Solo queue challenger in Korea. This probably won't mean too much ,but it's still a fantastic achievement.

yeah the reason he was picked up was because he is a soloq monster
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 24 2015 19:29 GMT
#1352
On May 25 2015 04:20 Ansibled wrote:
lol

https://twitter.com/flaxxish/status/602554359470252032

holy shit, that is BM as fuck. I hope qtpie reports that toxic euro.
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-24 19:33:28
May 24 2015 19:32 GMT
#1353
Rush was top of soloq in korea for a long while that's why they picked him up, it wasn't some after the fact thing. Used to be Rush IX I think.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
May 24 2015 19:35 GMT
#1354
Why do I get the feeling that Volband has a bedroom full of participation "awards"?
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 24 2015 19:38 GMT
#1355
On May 25 2015 04:35 Nemireck wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that Volband has a bedroom full of participation "awards"?

I always thought participation ribbons were uniquely American thing, I guess pandering to non-winners (wouldn't want to say loser, might hurt people's feelings) is a universal thing. I guess that's why we have bronze league. lol.
liftlift > tsm
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
May 24 2015 19:38 GMT
#1356
On May 25 2015 04:14 Volband wrote:
Don't put me in a position where I have to decide, what's fine or not. But gg easy is definitely a worse offense than calling someone a douche, yes.


I would strongly disagree with this. Saying 'gg easy' is nothing more than a comment on how easy it was to win a game. At best it's a passive-aggressive attack on the skill of one's opponent.

Calling someone a douchebag is a personal attack on their character. Which is probably far worse, actually.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 24 2015 19:40 GMT
#1357
On May 25 2015 04:35 Nemireck wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that Volband has a bedroom full of participation "awards"?

Astute read on his life accomplishments based on his opinions on an internet forum. o/
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-24 19:41:59
May 24 2015 19:40 GMT
#1358
On May 25 2015 04:35 Nemireck wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that Volband has a bedroom full of participation "awards"?

Even if I did, it wouldn't explain how so many people have not yet reached that mental level where they are aware that gg easy is, in fact, an insult.

On May 25 2015 04:38 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 04:14 Volband wrote:
Don't put me in a position where I have to decide, what's fine or not. But gg easy is definitely a worse offense than calling someone a douche, yes.


I would strongly disagree with this. Saying 'gg easy' is nothing more than a comment on how easy it was to win a game. At best it's a passive-aggressive attack on the skill of one's opponent.

Calling someone a douchebag is a personal attack on their character. Which is probably far worse, actually.

You are aware that more often than not gg easy is said when the game was actually close? Right...?
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
May 24 2015 19:41 GMT
#1359
On May 25 2015 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 04:35 Nemireck wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that Volband has a bedroom full of participation "awards"?

I always thought participation ribbons were uniquely American thing, I guess pandering to non-winners (wouldn't want to say loser, might hurt people's feelings) is a universal thing. I guess that's why we have bronze league. lol.


It's a generational thing, not a regional trend.

I'd wager it started with children born in the mid 90's and as they're hitting their 20's and failing at life while blaming every outside source they can think of, society is just now realizing that maybe convincing every useless person that they are, indeed, a special snowflake worthy of unearned praise and appreciation was probably not the best way to raise kids.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-24 19:44:51
May 24 2015 19:43 GMT
#1360
On May 25 2015 04:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
pretty sure imp trollpicked ashe once or twice but other than that..


When you want to win LPLOscar (what LGD successfully did), you gotta pick Ashe and die for same reasons Sufficiency declined once again.

Anyway, some people are emotional enough to feel insulted in video games, more at 11.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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