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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 23:59:49
April 22 2015 23:59 GMT
#941
The biggest problem Azubu has is people's perception of it. The platform is mostly fine, but I'm not sure people are ever going to get over it.

They should have rebranded.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 23 2015 00:04 GMT
#942
On April 23 2015 08:56 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 08:50 Redox wrote:
On April 23 2015 08:45 Gahlo wrote:
On April 23 2015 08:38 Redox wrote:
Seems to me like Azubu is running out of money. Not only the contract with Fnatic has not been renewed, but I also see Roccat and NME players on Twitch now. Probably its more.

Maybe random post, but I think its interesting.

They're getting screwed by being a closed platform, which they are making steps to change.

Well they could also still contract teams if they go open.
Of course it makes all no sense financially no matter what.

Now they become a 2nd hitbox.tv, although with probably even worse numbers.

The issue they're running into, I think, is that they aren't able to make enough money to entice teams to stay on a platform that tends to get less viewership. By being an open platform, they can probably transfer profits from individual streamers into contracts for teams.

Well they will never be making any profit.
Off-season = best season
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#943
On April 23 2015 08:59 Ansibled wrote:
The biggest problem Azubu has is people's perception of it. The platform is mostly fine, but I'm not sure people are ever going to get over it.

They should have rebranded.

I think Twitch also has better UI. Overall this just seems like a very easy market to monopolize (because it's so convienient to have all your streams on one "following" page etc. and for whatever reason people are really attached to the Twitch brand, something I can't understand).
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
April 23 2015 00:12 GMT
#944
Can't you rewind a live broadcast on Azubu? I usually use Youtube so I can rewind. That's definitely my number 1 pet peeve against Twitch.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 00:15:01
April 23 2015 00:12 GMT
#945
On April 23 2015 08:59 Ansibled wrote:
The biggest problem Azubu has is people's perception of it. The platform is mostly fine, but I'm not sure people are ever going to get over it.

They should have rebranded.

Imo it doesnt even matter that they are terrible, they also would not have made it if they were better. People are watching Twitch now, they have a quasi monopoly, kinda like Google (which is also why they are worth a billion).

If a different streaming platform wants to attract good streamers these have to be able to earn more money there. Since less people will watch said streamer on the new non-Twitch platform they would have to make up for that with increased cpm rates, but that is simply not viable longterm. Even own3d.tv that was fairly established and "only" had like 30% less viewers for a streamer as on Twitch went bankrupt over the (presumably 1/3?) higher rates they had to pay their streamers.

But it is kinda hilarious how collosal the Azubu failure is. You really have to wonder how retarded some investors are.
Off-season = best season
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 00:26:53
April 23 2015 00:26 GMT
#946
Places like Azubu and Hitbox are basically dead with YouTube entering the streaming market anyway. YouTube will force Twitch to compete properly.

If Azubu didn't completely screw up their launch and site the first time around I think they could have been successful, especially with some of the names they had signed to them.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 23 2015 00:29 GMT
#947
On April 23 2015 09:26 Ansibled wrote:
Places like Azubu and Hitbox are basically dead with YouTube entering the streaming market anyway. YouTube will force Twitch to compete properly.

If Azubu didn't completely screw up their launch and site the first time around I think they could have been successful, especially with some of the names they had signed to them.

Not really. The thing Twitch has going for it is that it isn't Youtube, actually. Youtubers don't stream on Youtube, and instead do it on Twitch, because it's safer to do so. If one disappears they still have an established viewerbase.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 23 2015 01:26 GMT
#948
This is cool.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/esports/esports-event/mid-season-invitational-icons-bundles-and-more
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 23 2015 01:28 GMT
#949
So uh... my wife is letting me name our kitten (if we get one) WeiXiao :D. Thought this would be a community that appreciates that haha.
Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
April 23 2015 01:35 GMT
#950
On April 23 2015 10:28 KissBlade wrote:
So uh... my wife is letting me name our kitten (if we get one) WeiXiao :D. Thought this would be a community that appreciates that haha.

-_-
I am who you think I am
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
April 23 2015 01:44 GMT
#951
On April 23 2015 10:28 KissBlade wrote:
So uh... my wife is letting me name our kitten (if we get one) WeiXiao :D. Thought this would be a community that appreciates that haha.


-_-V
TranslatorBaa!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 01:46:51
April 23 2015 01:44 GMT
#952
Late to the party, but personally, I think banning RL's content is a reasonable move.

Everyone can agree that RL is a scumbag with an obsession with trashing Riot, r/lol, and the mods every chance he can get. There's plenty of evidence of RL being an asshole, doxxing people, and in general being a douche.

So the obvious step is to ban him from r/lol. Which happened. But then RL decides to use his twitter and social media to have other people be assholes for him by vote brigading in violation of Reddit's TOS, harassing posters critical of him, doxxing people via twitter, etc...

At this point what should you do? You can't simply just ban everyone saying bad things or agreeing with RL since you have no idea if that person truly feels that way or are just doing so 'cause RL wants them to. Do you just let RL shit up your subreddit? At this point, the r/lol mods have to do something.

Banning his content is extreme, but really, what the fuck else can they do?

I also get that Cheep's posts poking fun at r/lol and holding up LiquidLoL are in part in jest, but do you really think someone like RL will do well here? TL is notorious for its no bullshit stance. FFS especially bad posters have their entire post history nuked here on TL. Just because someone is famous or a solid contributor is not a badge of immunity. Idra has been banned numerous times for toxicity and his forum toxicity doesn't reach RL's level of assholishness on r/lol. Even long-time contributors have been banned on TL before coughrofflescough
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 23 2015 01:47 GMT
#953
I honestly don't think losing RL from the scene entirely is a huge loss. I find him extremely scummy.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 23 2015 01:49 GMT
#954
On top of that, personally I much prefer browsing TL precisely because TL has a no-bullshit policy. If I wanted a true free-for-all democratic discussion with no moderating outside of upvote/downvote I'd go to 4chan or r/gaming.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 23 2015 02:36 GMT
#955
On April 23 2015 10:47 KissBlade wrote:
I honestly don't think losing RL from the scene entirely is a huge loss. I find him extremely scummy.


He does feel extremely abrasive. First it was Deman's email leak, then he leaked all of the private conversations he had with a reddit mod in the video he just uploaded - in which it was very clear that the reddit mod was trying to make amendments with him. I wonder if anyone will still be interested in working with him in the future.

There are plenty of other journalists out there.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 02:39:49
April 23 2015 02:39 GMT
#956
On April 23 2015 11:36 Sufficiency wrote:

There are plenty of other journalists out there.


Such as..?
TranslatorBaa!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 23 2015 02:45 GMT
#957
On April 23 2015 10:28 KissBlade wrote:
So uh... my wife is letting me name our kitten (if we get one) WeiXiao :D. Thought this would be a community that appreciates that haha.

Anyone who is going to get a kitten and does not

1) buy a cute black kitty
2) buy a pink ribbon to put around its neck, and
3) name is Sakomoto

is doing it wrong
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 23 2015 02:49 GMT
#958
On April 23 2015 11:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:36 Sufficiency wrote:

There are plenty of other journalists out there.


Such as..?

When he says journalist, he means starving and shivering bearded englishman.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 23 2015 02:51 GMT
#959
DailyDot has a lot of journalists, or "journalists", depending how you look at things.

There are also other writers from other websites. For example this piece: http://esport.aftonbladet.se/lol/yamatocannon-set-to-coach-team-roccat/ was posted a few days ago.

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 23 2015 02:58 GMT
#960
I dunno, I always felt that whenever a big drama or story appeared regarding League, I could almost always count on RL for a no-bullshit article to inform me on what's going on. He also had pretty damn good track record in regards to breaking big LoL news.
liftlift > tsm
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