EPT[Patch 5.7] More Executes General Discussion - Page 37
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kongoline
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On April 21 2015 00:42 Frudgey wrote: How do you even play Garen versus those annoying ranged match ups? I take it that it has something to do with intelligent use of your Q as well as just running towards them at appropriate times? I also imagine Boots of Swiftness being a factor as well. Well, first of all you should probably take mercs with alacrity enchant instead, if the enemy is magic damage. Secondly, be a man. Show them who is boss in the lane. Make them scared to cs. Then, if they don't respect your manliness, run at them and kill them. Also, know the range where you can flash q ignite e someone while they have no chance to escape due to silence. | ||
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AlreadyHere
Canada26 Posts
I honestly don't see how Garen can deal with a decent player playing lulu, lissandra or Kennen. The only way you will ever kill them is if you flash q and 100-0 them before they can escape. They have too much cc, range and zone potential. What can Garen even do vs lulu? She will just auto attack you to death all laning phase and if you ever go in on her she can shield herself and speed away, once she hits 6 you will never kill her if she gets her ult off. I guess you jsut need to beg your jungler but otherwise... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 21 2015 02:24 AlreadyHere wrote: boots of swiftness are usually bad on Garen because you can remove slows anyway with your q. Mercs are better in nearly every scenario. I honestly don't see how Garen can deal with a decent player playing lulu, lissandra or Kennen. The only way you will ever kill them is if you flash q and 100-0 them before they can escape. They have too much cc, range and zone potential. What can Garen even do vs lulu? She will just auto attack you to death all laning phase and if you ever go in on her she can shield herself and speed away, once she hits 6 you will never kill her if she gets her ult off. I guess you jsut need to beg your jungler but otherwise... Just accept that you will lose lane and try to make a comeback later in the game. Lissandra, IMO, is nearly impossible to lane against. All of her tools says "anti-Garen" in big, red ink. | ||
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Mensol
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 21 2015 04:47 Mensol wrote: I usually beat the hell out of Garen with Teemo. Teemo is problematic, but I rather lane against a Teemo than a Lissandra. It's easy to outplay a Teemo with a good Flash all-in, Lissandra is just close to impossible. Lissandra also have a much more threatening teamfight presence and easier to play in a team than Teemo. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
Also, you gotta dodge her shit. If you can't do that, the lane is gonna suck obviously. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:21 Fildun wrote: Ehh, Liss isn't too bad honestly. If you actually trade with her, you win really easily. Abuse cooldowns a lot, your cd's are shorter (at least after a couple levels, since she maxes Q). Also, you gotta dodge her shit. If you can't do that, the lane is gonna suck obviously. Her W is fool-proof in stopping Garen's aggression though. Just press a button and good to go. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:43 Sufficiency wrote: Her W is fool-proof in stopping Garen's aggression though. Just press a button and good to go. Her W is really predictable though, just move back a little bit as soon as you're in W range, she uses W, you run back in. You might say that's predictable, but you only gotta do it once, then flash on her when your cd's are back up and she's dead. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:46 Fildun wrote: Her W is really predictable though, just move back a little bit as soon as you're in W range, she uses W, you run back in. You might say that's predictable, but you only gotta do it once, then flash on her when your cd's are back up and she's dead. Is this /r/koreanadvice? lol. I understand what you are saying, but it's really hard to do reliably. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:48 Sufficiency wrote: Is this /r/koreanadvice? lol. I understand what you are saying, but it's really hard to do reliably. Yeah I know it's hard, but you have about 3 shots to do it (with pots + passive). If you actually land it, you do win pretty hard, so as soon as you can do it 1/2 or 1/3 times, the lane does get a lot better. Also RIP east coast players. Ofcourse, this is just my strat, Teut probably has a much better one. Edit: In his AMA Forgiven just said that he respected and admired puszu a lot. Eat it haters. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35130 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:51 Fildun wrote: Yeah I know it's hard, but you have about 3 shots to do it (with pots + passive). If you actually land it, you do win pretty hard, so as soon as you can do it 1/2 or 1/3 times, the lane does get a lot better. Also RIP east coast players. Ofcourse, this is just my strat, Teut probably has a much better one. I wonder if I still get lower ping to EUW... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:51 Fildun wrote: Yeah I know it's hard, but you have about 3 shots to do it (with pots + passive). If you actually land it, you do win pretty hard, so as soon as you can do it 1/2 or 1/3 times, the lane does get a lot better. Also RIP east coast players. Ofcourse, this is just my strat, Teut probably has a much better one. I really don't think this is possible on East coast... | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:51 Fildun wrote: Yeah I know it's hard, but you have about 3 shots to do it (with pots + passive). If you actually land it, you do win pretty hard, so as soon as you can do it 1/2 or 1/3 times, the lane does get a lot better. Also RIP east coast players. Ofcourse, this is just my strat, Teut probably has a much better one. Edit: In his AMA Forgiven just said that he respected and admired puszu a lot. Eat it haters. As someone who actually played vs puszu both when he was on fnc and after all I can say is "lol" | ||
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kongoline
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On April 21 2015 05:56 nafta wrote: As someone who actually played vs puszu both when he was on fnc and after all I can say is "lol" I know, just poking fun :p Also yeah, east coast players can't do that I think. | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 21 2015 06:38 General_Winter wrote: I've seen some support Kennen in recent pro games.What do people think of this? Great with Pokemon Trainer Kalista, good for secondary engage, bad if only form of peel and/or engage. | ||
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