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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
April 21 2015 07:38 GMT
#761
On April 21 2015 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 00:42 Frudgey wrote:
On April 20 2015 20:35 Fildun wrote:
Yeah Riven and Nidalee are the only two really problematic ones. Liss and Vlad are both certainly winnable lanes, same with Teemo and other annoying harassers.
Except Sion. Fuck that champ's base stats.

How do you even play Garen versus those annoying ranged match ups? I take it that it has something to do with intelligent use of your Q as well as just running towards them at appropriate times? I also imagine Boots of Swiftness being a factor as well.

Wait wtf Garen dumps on Riven you just build armor and she rolls over and dies in lane because Q silence owns her really hard and she can't interrupt your E

Getting to the point where the armor stack is good enough is the hard part though.
I might also have gotten severely outplayed.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 21 2015 07:49 GMT
#762
On April 21 2015 12:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Hi everyone I just wanted to make sure everyone saw Bjergsen play Chogath

K goodbye again

It's been played other times already, not sure in which match-ups, though. You're a bit late.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 21 2015 07:49 GMT
#763
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 21 2015 08:33 GMT
#764
On April 21 2015 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 00:42 Frudgey wrote:
On April 20 2015 20:35 Fildun wrote:
Yeah Riven and Nidalee are the only two really problematic ones. Liss and Vlad are both certainly winnable lanes, same with Teemo and other annoying harassers.
Except Sion. Fuck that champ's base stats.

How do you even play Garen versus those annoying ranged match ups? I take it that it has something to do with intelligent use of your Q as well as just running towards them at appropriate times? I also imagine Boots of Swiftness being a factor as well.

Wait wtf Garen dumps on Riven you just build armor and she rolls over and dies in lane because Q silence owns her really hard and she can't interrupt your E

Any half decent Riven knows to E/W the silence and then to dance around your spinning before trading back. It is known.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 21 2015 10:21 GMT
#765
On April 21 2015 16:38 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 21 2015 00:42 Frudgey wrote:
On April 20 2015 20:35 Fildun wrote:
Yeah Riven and Nidalee are the only two really problematic ones. Liss and Vlad are both certainly winnable lanes, same with Teemo and other annoying harassers.
Except Sion. Fuck that champ's base stats.

How do you even play Garen versus those annoying ranged match ups? I take it that it has something to do with intelligent use of your Q as well as just running towards them at appropriate times? I also imagine Boots of Swiftness being a factor as well.

Wait wtf Garen dumps on Riven you just build armor and she rolls over and dies in lane because Q silence owns her really hard and she can't interrupt your E

Getting to the point where the armor stack is good enough is the hard part though.
I might also have gotten severely outplayed.

Literally all you need is Tabi/Vest.
Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 10:53:21
April 21 2015 10:32 GMT
#766
On April 21 2015 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 00:42 Frudgey wrote:
On April 20 2015 20:35 Fildun wrote:
Yeah Riven and Nidalee are the only two really problematic ones. Liss and Vlad are both certainly winnable lanes, same with Teemo and other annoying harassers.
Except Sion. Fuck that champ's base stats.

How do you even play Garen versus those annoying ranged match ups? I take it that it has something to do with intelligent use of your Q as well as just running towards them at appropriate times? I also imagine Boots of Swiftness being a factor as well.

Wait wtf Garen dumps on Riven you just build armor and she rolls over and dies in lane because Q silence owns her really hard and she can't interrupt your E


Riven does roll over to armour and she can't interrupt your E, but she can just E in response. You can then Q for the MS boost to catch up to her but that makes her next W incredibly easy. Overall, you will have dealt a little damage through her E and she'll have dealt a little with her W.. but she still has Q.

With your W, you can fight her, but your W has a long cd. It really is not a good matchup.

edit: You don't want Tabi against Riven from my experience. Mercs and even swifties are better. The whole problem with the character is that you can't put damage on her effectively, which Tabi does nothing to help with.

brokenwatch
Profile Joined July 2011
Azerbaijan99 Posts
April 21 2015 12:48 GMT
#767
why would anyone play support kennen.What does he have better say than zyra or something? how does his stun work can you actually stun entire team with your ult?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 21 2015 12:53 GMT
#768
Not as squishy, has escape, has stun, yes you can stun the entire team and with a kalista you can engage without flash. Sounds pretty strong on paper.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
April 21 2015 12:54 GMT
#769
I think the main point is that Kennen is incredible mobile for a support with his AoE cc. That's exactly the problem of Zyra, she is very squishy while being pretty much the slowest support in the game.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 21 2015 13:18 GMT
#770
The only thing I don't like about kennen is he feels like just a jack of all trades.Watched a few lpl/lck games of him and the tsm vs c9 it never felt like he did something other picks couldn't have done.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 21 2015 13:25 GMT
#771
He has a very strong midgame timing and the potential to completely turn a fight, few tops/supps can say the same.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 21 2015 13:32 GMT
#772
Most supports can do at least as good.Also you have to ban janna if you want to play kennen or he is just completely useless.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 13:36:25
April 21 2015 13:35 GMT
#773
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 21 2015 13:37 GMT
#774
What does he have to do with annie?She immobile and her only strong point is instant hard engage which kennen doesn't have.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 21 2015 13:40 GMT
#775
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 21 2015 13:41 GMT
#776
Except all of those things play out in a completely different way which has nothing to do with what annie does.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 13:43:31
April 21 2015 13:42 GMT
#777
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 13:50:48
April 21 2015 13:48 GMT
#778
Kennen doesn't do much during his defensive steroid, same can't be said for Annie (it also doesn't burn half her ressource pool and doesn't have that long a cooldown), Kennen's aa range was nerfed to 550 (eg. standard) awhile back, and he doesn't have instant hard cc for his initiation.

Charges can't be compared because Annie can hold onto hers and use them on whoever she wants, Kennen has to build them up in a short timeframe on a specific target. Annie also has way better base damage.

If I really wanted to compare Kennen to another support I'd go for Braum (counter-initiation/peeling, possible to engage but much weaker, short range assist for his partner) or Fiddlesticks (poke, AoE damage as a follow-up or possibly initiation if farmed enough, usually better for the surprise factor or if kept for follow-up, decent short-range peeling), and even then Fiddle's fear is instant and Braum has Unbreakable so they have major differences.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 21 2015 13:48 GMT
#779
Man, Zyra, now thats a champ that Riot has just left in the trash heap. And she isn't even fundamentally flawed like Poppy and Shaco.
Freeeeeeedom
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 14:00:56
April 21 2015 13:51 GMT
#780
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