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Project Yasuo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States153 Posts
April 23 2015 01:11 GMT
#521
RIP Hai D:
Royal Never Gives Up
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 23 2015 01:15 GMT
#522
On April 23 2015 10:08 Ansibled wrote:
I don't think Hai's career is hall of fame worthy.

Well surely worth of NA's hall of fame.
Off-season = best season
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 23 2015 01:23 GMT
#523
If C9 never bounce back then you could make a case for him being a good captain due to how hard they dominated for 2-3 splits.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Project Yasuo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States153 Posts
April 23 2015 01:28 GMT
#524
Welcome to C9 incarnati0n (?)
Royal Never Gives Up
Wijnruit
Profile Joined October 2014
Brazil294 Posts
April 23 2015 01:29 GMT
#525
On April 23 2015 10:02 Ansibled wrote:
ROFL.

10/10 Leak.


RLewis could not have done better
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
April 23 2015 01:31 GMT
#526
Goodluck C9 Scarra! Only logical conclusion.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 23 2015 01:34 GMT
#527
On April 23 2015 10:29 Wijnruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 10:02 Ansibled wrote:
ROFL.

10/10 Leak.


RLewis could not have done better


actually he reported this weeks ago...
Carrilord has arrived.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 23 2015 01:36 GMT
#528
On April 23 2015 10:08 Ansibled wrote:
I don't think Hai's career is hall of fame worthy.


Not for his shotcalling/in game leadership? He captained C9 to be the most successful NA team ever.
SUNSFANNED
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 23 2015 01:40 GMT
#529
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
April 23 2015 01:45 GMT
#530
I think Hai deserves a spot for being the shotcaller/captain of the only team to ever walk the royal road in either LCS regions. Also 25 - 3 split.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
April 23 2015 02:01 GMT
#531
On April 23 2015 10:40 Ansibled wrote:
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.

CLG was never as successful as C9 was. The last time CLG did something relevant was winning an MLG event all the way back in 2011. Since then? Nothing. Don't be delusional. When it comes to TSM, as of late they have shown to be much more successful both at home and on the international scene. But going back to the beginning, when C9 first got into the LCS. They won that very split, being the first royal roaders. Along with that they had an insane record. Then they' go on to be the best NA team for splits to come, also stood as the only NA that really had a chance at the international level until as of late.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 23 2015 02:02 GMT
#532
On April 23 2015 10:08 Ansibled wrote:
I don't think Hai's career is hall of fame worthy.


Compared to the other people who were in the scene at the time he entered (Regi, Scarra, etc.) and the people he competed against for 2 years (2 Worlds appearances, won IEM San Jose, insane win-loss record in his region), along with growing a fan base out of basically nothing, and helping shake up NA LCS to force teams to get their shit together and compete on the world stage, he deserves to be in NA Hall of Fame.

His ingame numbers might not be the greatest, but from a shotcalling and vision control standpoint he helped usher in a different way for mid laners to play (snowball your other lanes w/ roams, get things snowballing sooner).
Project Yasuo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States153 Posts
April 23 2015 02:13 GMT
#533
On April 23 2015 10:40 Ansibled wrote:
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.

I haven't been here for that long so this may be complete bs, but I get the feeling in general that you don't really like Cloud 9
Royal Never Gives Up
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 02:32:41
April 23 2015 02:20 GMT
#534
On April 23 2015 11:01 Phobbers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 10:40 Ansibled wrote:
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.

CLG was never as successful as C9 was. The last time CLG did something relevant was winning an MLG event all the way back in 2011. Since then? Nothing. Don't be delusional. When it comes to TSM, as of late they have shown to be much more successful both at home and on the international scene. But going back to the beginning, when C9 first got into the LCS. They won that very split, being the first royal roaders. Along with that they had an insane record. Then they' go on to be the best NA team for splits to come, also stood as the only NA that really had a chance at the international level until as of late.

CLGs performance at IPL5 is probably the most competitive any North American team has ever been against good international competition. Funny considering the roster.

The Split C9 won in S3 Summer they would have struggled to finish top 3 in Europe. C9 wasn't a good team until Season 4, where they were legitimately good but not so far ahead of everyone else.

On April 23 2015 11:13 Project Yasuo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 10:40 Ansibled wrote:
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.

I haven't been here for that long so this may be complete bs, but I get the feeling in general that you don't really like Cloud 9

I don't really like them much, but I still think what I said is fairly reasonable. I suppose the biggest difference is that a lot of people consider C9 at Worlds last year to have been fairly competitive, when my view on it is they got stomped by a poorly performing Blue.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
April 23 2015 02:25 GMT
#535
On April 23 2015 11:20 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:13 Project Yasuo wrote:
On April 23 2015 10:40 Ansibled wrote:
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.

I haven't been here for that long so this may be complete bs, but I get the feeling in general that you don't really like Cloud 9

I don't really like them much, but I still think what I said is fairly reasonable. I suppose the biggest difference is that a lot of people consider C9 at Worlds last year to have been fairly competitive, when my view on it is they got stomped by a poorly performing Blue.


They won one game and were attacking an open nexus in another game. They lost, and Blue was better, but stomped is...a very odd way to describe that series.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 02:32:01
April 23 2015 02:26 GMT
#536
On April 23 2015 11:25 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:20 Ansibled wrote:
On April 23 2015 11:13 Project Yasuo wrote:
On April 23 2015 10:40 Ansibled wrote:
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.

I haven't been here for that long so this may be complete bs, but I get the feeling in general that you don't really like Cloud 9

I don't really like them much, but I still think what I said is fairly reasonable. I suppose the biggest difference is that a lot of people consider C9 at Worlds last year to have been fairly competitive, when my view on it is they got stomped by a poorly performing Blue.


They won one game and were attacking an open nexus in another game. They lost, and Blue was better, but stomped is...a very odd way to describe that series.

Blue opened up a 10,000+ gold lead in every game after the first from 20 minutes which is exactly how Blue wanted to play it out. The series wasn't close, it just looked like it because C9 got a catch in the last game.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
April 23 2015 02:44 GMT
#537
On April 23 2015 11:26 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 11:25 Amethyst21 wrote:
On April 23 2015 11:20 Ansibled wrote:
On April 23 2015 11:13 Project Yasuo wrote:
On April 23 2015 10:40 Ansibled wrote:
TSM or CLG were more successful than C9 was. I suppose if it's an NA specific list Hai deserves to be on it.

I haven't been here for that long so this may be complete bs, but I get the feeling in general that you don't really like Cloud 9

I don't really like them much, but I still think what I said is fairly reasonable. I suppose the biggest difference is that a lot of people consider C9 at Worlds last year to have been fairly competitive, when my view on it is they got stomped by a poorly performing Blue.


They won one game and were attacking an open nexus in another game. They lost, and Blue was better, but stomped is...a very odd way to describe that series.

Blue opened up a 10,000+ gold lead in every game after the first from 20 minutes which is exactly how Blue wanted to play it out. The series wasn't close, it just looked like it because C9 got a catch in the last game.


It was a strange series because I actually think we are both right - C9 got absolutely smashed in two of their losses, and it was not even close.

On one hand you could say they took one game and got lucky to even make it close in game four
On the other you could say they took one game and were like 5..10 autoattacks away from forcing a game five.

I don't think either perspective is actually wrong.

Again Blue was better and were deserved winners of the series, I just don't think 'smashed' is the right word choice.

(I realize how pedantic this is getting, but I gotta get my fanboy on somewhere, my heart hurts from having Hai leave, even though I know he's 'past it' in terms of a top NA midlaner, )
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 03:12:11
April 23 2015 02:47 GMT
#538
I actually find the nature of this leak causing such a ruckus to be fascinating in its own right. A screenshot taken of the nominal head coach of a team conversing with someone streaming at the time. It's not the sort of thing that really happens in traditional sports, or traditional real world news.
Do the loose lips speak to how the competitive League scene is still relatively quite young and inexperienced? Be it on an individual basis, or in the general attitude/environment. The choice to mention this at all to some random streamer. The choice to discuss this through the League client. Is it intentional by a person with the awareness and cunning to predict the outcome? Or is it just an accident by a kid working in an field that doesn't ingrain a sufficiently high enough level of discretion?
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 23 2015 03:29 GMT
#539
wow im sad... it was obviously kinda expected but still way sad...
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 03:34:10
April 23 2015 03:29 GMT
#540
Some pretty convincing rumors indicate Uzi is almost certainly going to A9 (formerly VG.P).
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