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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
February 08 2015 14:49 GMT
#921
What sort of runes do you guys use on jungle Nidalee? Checked probuild and every player had very different pages.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 08 2015 14:53 GMT
#922
Tabzz and Krepo are my favorite bot lane to watch along with DL/Aproo atm.

They call themselves "el rejecto" lmoa.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 08 2015 17:13 GMT
#923
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?
liftlift > tsm
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
February 08 2015 17:25 GMT
#924
On February 08 2015 20:32 nafta wrote:
Xerath beats ahri pre 6 and ahri beats xerath after pretty much how it goes but since there are A LOT of skillshots anything can happen.

Nidalee jungle is very strong if someone competent plays her but most aren't.

Ahri/liss/xerath is a good mid roster but ahri/liss get banned often so you probably need 1 more.Ziggs isn't very good imo but serviceable.Katarina/orianna/cass/zed/jayce are some good champs for now.


I have Jayce and Ori already, I think I own Zed but I'm terrible on him so I haven't bothered to learn him. Kat's very feast/famine and I've yet to get Cassi.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 08 2015 17:57 GMT
#925
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
February 08 2015 19:16 GMT
#926
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


She is still okay botlane. Nrated even picks her in lcs.

And certainly you don't lose lane. Her early laneing is pretty good.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
February 08 2015 19:23 GMT
#927
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?

I played a lot of lulu bot at the end of season 4, she is really all right and you can win or at least do ok against everything bot except nami/sona, however, you really need to know her good and know when to max Q, when E, when mixing them, when to build damage, when to build more tanky/utility, she is really versatile and you need a lot of games with her.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 08 2015 19:30 GMT
#928
watching qtpie play kalista, enemy nasus withers him, holy shit talk about straight up counter.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 08 2015 21:06 GMT
#929
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 21:22:42
February 08 2015 21:21 GMT
#930
strongest early support wat

she's alright defensively i guess

when have you ever seen lulus secure kills early in lane

leona and sona and thresh and blizt all get kills a lot
lulu never does

nami's stronger too i think

she's probably on par with morg or something
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 21:23:24
February 08 2015 21:22 GMT
#931
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 08 2015 22:02 GMT
#932
On February 09 2015 06:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.


I dunno, I think Lulu now a days is pretty reliant on having the stronger AD. I'd much rather have like Thresh, Sona, Annie, Nami...

I dont think she has any kill potential. She also doesn't have the shield to mess with some of these other supports. I dunno, I'd say her early laning is like on par with Morg, but I think Morg can just kill kids in lane if you land Q, but like Lulu just like zones them.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 22:18:55
February 08 2015 22:15 GMT
#933
On February 09 2015 06:22 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.


you do if you have a weak ad vs strong lane.

ie. trist lulu gets shit on by cait nami.

shes not a very flexible support. gotta pick it in the right situation unlike janna, thresh, etc. where you can pick it into nearly any situation.


Who isn't getting shit on by Cait-Nami, rofl.
And you gotta define what is "flexible support", because you're not going Janna blindly every game either, unless you're elowhoring.

On February 09 2015 07:02 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.


I dunno, I think Lulu now a days is pretty reliant on having the stronger AD. I'd much rather have like Thresh, Sona, Annie, Nami...

I dont think she has any kill potential. She also doesn't have the shield to mess with some of these other supports. I dunno, I'd say her early laning is like on par with Morg, but I think Morg can just kill kids in lane if you land Q, but like Lulu just like zones them.


Lulu's 3v3 is better than anyone from your list.
Just go Graves with her and punch kids in face.

On February 09 2015 06:21 Slayer91 wrote:
strongest early support wat

she's alright defensively i guess

when have you ever seen lulus secure kills early in lane

leona and sona and thresh and blizt all get kills a lot
lulu never does

nami's stronger too i think

she's probably on par with morg or something


She has enough kill potential to be justified, if you're not going exhaust Lulu.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 22:23:31
February 08 2015 22:20 GMT
#934
On February 09 2015 07:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:22 krndandaman wrote:
On February 09 2015 06:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.


you do if you have a weak ad vs strong lane.

ie. trist lulu gets shit on by cait nami.

shes not a very flexible support. gotta pick it in the right situation unlike janna, thresh, etc. where you can pick it into nearly any situation.


Who isn't getting shit on by Cait-Nami, rofl.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:02 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 06:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.


I dunno, I think Lulu now a days is pretty reliant on having the stronger AD. I'd much rather have like Thresh, Sona, Annie, Nami...

I dont think she has any kill potential. She also doesn't have the shield to mess with some of these other supports. I dunno, I'd say her early laning is like on par with Morg, but I think Morg can just kill kids in lane if you land Q, but like Lulu just like zones them.


Lulu's 3v3 is better than anyone from your list.
Just go Graves with her and punch kids in face.



How do you figure that? I'd much rather stun their whole team than slow them and maybe get a knuckup. Sona has a shield & Heal.

oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 08 2015 22:23 GMT
#935
On February 09 2015 07:20 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 09 2015 06:22 krndandaman wrote:
On February 09 2015 06:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.


you do if you have a weak ad vs strong lane.

ie. trist lulu gets shit on by cait nami.

shes not a very flexible support. gotta pick it in the right situation unlike janna, thresh, etc. where you can pick it into nearly any situation.


Who isn't getting shit on by Cait-Nami, rofl.

On February 09 2015 07:02 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 06:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:57 iCanada wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:13 wei2coolman wrote:
just realized i have dragon trainer lulu skin, now i sort of want to play her more often. How are her current botlane matchups?


Dont play her bottom.

You'll lose lane horribly. She is pretty awful bottom after the changes made when she was facerolling everyone top / mid.

She is a solo laner now imo.


You never lose Lulu lanes horribly, rofl.
She's probably strongest support in early game in general + her 3v3 potential is decent enough to be justified.


I dunno, I think Lulu now a days is pretty reliant on having the stronger AD. I'd much rather have like Thresh, Sona, Annie, Nami...

I dont think she has any kill potential. She also doesn't have the shield to mess with some of these other supports. I dunno, I'd say her early laning is like on par with Morg, but I think Morg can just kill kids in lane if you land Q, but like Lulu just like zones them.


Lulu's 3v3 is better than anyone from your list.
Just go Graves with her and punch kids in face.



How do you figure that? I'd much rather stun their whole team than slow them and maybe get a knuckup. Sona has a shield & Heal.

Dyrus says Dig got outpicked hard.


Because Lulu's 80% slow and hex > 0.75 seconds stun.
And Sona is oneshot in almost all 3v3 situations when she gets focused properly and doesn't have flash.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 22:54:13
February 08 2015 22:53 GMT
#936
thats assuming sona has no flash and in range your E/Q/W or jungler cc
not guaranteed
whats wrong with going janna blindly every game
broken champ
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 23:17:11
February 08 2015 23:17 GMT
#937
On February 09 2015 07:53 Slayer91 wrote:
thats assuming sona has no flash and in range your E/Q/W or jungler cc
not guaranteed
whats wrong with going janna blindly every game
broken champ


Dying because of boredom isn't worth it.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 08 2015 23:20 GMT
#938
The only downside of janna is you can't initiate fights reliably.Literally the only downside.All the low skill floor/high ceiling/good numbers is there.

Lulu is average at best at laning imo.Sona/soraka/nami/janna auto win vs her and in every other matchup if she doesn't get a big advantage lvl1/2 she loses.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 08 2015 23:20 GMT
#939
On February 09 2015 08:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:53 Slayer91 wrote:
thats assuming sona has no flash and in range your E/Q/W or jungler cc
not guaranteed
whats wrong with going janna blindly every game
broken champ


Dying because of boredom isn't worth it.


you make a good point
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 08 2015 23:21 GMT
#940
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