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On November 19 2014 04:06 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:04 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. From reading his ama and your comments you are the one who sounds salty. How am I salty? He basically burnt his bridge by saying Riot is a terrible place to work at... for no good reasons at all.
Where in the fuck does he say that? He just said it limits his ability to do what he wants, which isn't at all the same as "Riot is a terrible place to work at..."
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On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito?
It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity.
But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices.
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By the way, its not like riot would be a more stable place for Montecristo. Contacts run yearly there anyways, and he would not be retained if he broke the mold (which he cannot resist).
They could fire riv any time. They keep him because he is noob friendly and doesn't bring controversy.
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On November 19 2014 04:08 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:06 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:04 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. From reading his ama and your comments you are the one who sounds salty. How am I salty? He basically burnt his bridge by saying Riot is a terrible place to work at... for no good reasons at all. Where in the fuck does he say that? He just said it limits his ability to do what he wants, which isn't at all the same as "Riot is a terrible place to work at..."
Read what nafta said.
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On November 19 2014 04:14 cLutZ wrote:
By the way, its not like riot would be a more stable place for Montecristo. Contacts run yearly there anyways, and he would not be retained if he broke the mold (which he cannot resist).
They could fire riv any time. They keep him because he is noob friendly and doesn't bring controversy.
That's true, but undersrand that Riot is a big company and has firm control over the game. See, for example, at Riot's consideration (rumour) of running their own talk show while eliminating other ones.
Also, the experience of working at Riot is very good for his resume and will provide him far more exposure than he has currently.
I still think he burned some bridges with that comment. He basically said Riot is a terrible company to work at, even though he can benefit greatly from the experience of working there.
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I think you the only one that sees it as him saying that. Everyone else just sees it as him wanting to do non-Riot PR where if he worked for them he'd have to do only Riot PR.
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His line was a standard non-response. Just read a press release of some one who leaves a network news slot. It's the sane words.
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On November 19 2014 04:13 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito? It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity. But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices.
Yeah you definitely don't sound like someone who just dislikes him....
The guy said riot employment isn't for him.Don't see anything wrong with that.His reasoning is also not a random shitty one.
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On November 19 2014 04:26 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:13 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito? It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity. But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices. Yeah you definitely don't sound like someone who just dislikes him.... The guy said riot employment isn't for him.Don't see anything wrong with that.His reasoning is also not a random shitty one.
Sorry that sounded too sarcastic. However, my point remains that he could have worded that answer in half a dozen different ways that does not involve "Riot is a terrible company to work at"
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On November 19 2014 04:30 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:26 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:13 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito? It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity. But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices. Yeah you definitely don't sound like someone who just dislikes him.... The guy said riot employment isn't for him.Don't see anything wrong with that.His reasoning is also not a random shitty one. Sorry that sounded too sarcastic. However, my point remains that he could have worded that answer in half a dozen different ways that does not involve "Riot is a terrible company to work at"
Here is another quote from the ama:
If/When League dies out, what will you end up doing after?
The advantage of working for OnGameNet is that I can transition to the next big game smoothly. I think we're years away from LoL dying, but when the time comes my position offers me the opportunity to take a crack at the next title. I hope to continue working with OGN for a long time.
Also your point doesn't remain.What other way can he say that he can't do shit like casting other games or non riot talk shows if he gets employed?
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On November 19 2014 04:36 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:30 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:26 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:13 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito? It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity. But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices. Yeah you definitely don't sound like someone who just dislikes him.... The guy said riot employment isn't for him.Don't see anything wrong with that.His reasoning is also not a random shitty one. Sorry that sounded too sarcastic. However, my point remains that he could have worded that answer in half a dozen different ways that does not involve "Riot is a terrible company to work at" Here is another quote from the ama: If/When League dies out, what will you end up doing after? The advantage of working for OnGameNet is that I can transition to the next big game smoothly. I think we're years away from LoL dying, but when the time comes my position offers me the opportunity to take a crack at the next title. I hope to continue working with OGN for a long time. Also your point doesn't remain.What other way can he say that he can't do shit like casting other games or non riot talk shows if he gets employed?
He doesn't work for OGN anymore because he is not casting Korean LCS? OGN did not renew his contract yet according to one SI episode.
I could be wrong.
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On November 19 2014 04:38 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:36 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:30 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:26 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:13 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito? It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity. But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices. Yeah you definitely don't sound like someone who just dislikes him.... The guy said riot employment isn't for him.Don't see anything wrong with that.His reasoning is also not a random shitty one. Sorry that sounded too sarcastic. However, my point remains that he could have worded that answer in half a dozen different ways that does not involve "Riot is a terrible company to work at" Here is another quote from the ama: If/When League dies out, what will you end up doing after? The advantage of working for OnGameNet is that I can transition to the next big game smoothly. I think we're years away from LoL dying, but when the time comes my position offers me the opportunity to take a crack at the next title. I hope to continue working with OGN for a long time. Also your point doesn't remain.What other way can he say that he can't do shit like casting other games or non riot talk shows if he gets employed? He doesn't work for OGN anymore because he is not casting Korean LCS? OGN did not renew his contract yet according to one SI episode. I could be wrong.
Well he is casting the qualifiers for last 2 spots for ogn with doa this weekend so it would be very surprising.
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On November 19 2014 04:38 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:36 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:30 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:26 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:13 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito? It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity. But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices. Yeah you definitely don't sound like someone who just dislikes him.... The guy said riot employment isn't for him.Don't see anything wrong with that.His reasoning is also not a random shitty one. Sorry that sounded too sarcastic. However, my point remains that he could have worded that answer in half a dozen different ways that does not involve "Riot is a terrible company to work at" Here is another quote from the ama: If/When League dies out, what will you end up doing after? The advantage of working for OnGameNet is that I can transition to the next big game smoothly. I think we're years away from LoL dying, but when the time comes my position offers me the opportunity to take a crack at the next title. I hope to continue working with OGN for a long time. Also your point doesn't remain.What other way can he say that he can't do shit like casting other games or non riot talk shows if he gets employed? He doesn't work for OGN anymore because he is not casting Korean LCS? OGN did not renew his contract yet according to one SI episode. I could be wrong.
They didn't renew his contract, because his contract hasn't expired yet.
And Monte doesn't have any problems working as a 3rd party contracted by Riot, but he has no intentions of being a Riot employee. (working on World's Analyst desk)
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Whether he works for them currently or not I still don't see how you can interpret that statement as "Riot is terrible" when it's clearly "I want to do things I may not be able to do at Riot".
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On November 19 2014 04:43 Numy wrote:
Whether he works for them currently or not I still don't see how you can interpret that statement as "Riot is terrible" when it's clearly "I want to do things I may not be able to do at Riot".
It's almost as if Sufficiency can't imagine why someone would rather be a freelancer/self employed vs being an employee.
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On November 19 2014 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:43 Numy wrote:
Whether he works for them currently or not I still don't see how you can interpret that statement as "Riot is terrible" when it's clearly "I want to do things I may not be able to do at Riot". It's almost as if Sufficiency can't imagine why someone would rather be a freelancer/self employed vs being an employee.
He is a freelancer now. Freelancer != self-employed.
I think he might fall into obscurity now that he won't be casting anything. I wish him best of luck on SI.
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United States37500 Posts
Holy shit, some of your reading comprehension is simply amazing.
Not sure why some of you are trying to spin Monte's answers negatively but he didn't say anything bad about Riot, at least not from the "would you want to work at Riot" question.
Monte is one of the few people in the League scene who can and is doing very well as a contractor. He has the option to speak his mind about most situations and that's definitely not something you can do as a Rioter. As an employee, you pretty much have to agree with company decisions, even if it's something you're not 100% behind. He works for OGN, covering the best region in the world and he got invited to participate/analyze Worlds the past two years. Who thinks Riot won't bring him back for S5?
Monte may not get the best pay with OGN (I'm inclined to believe that Riot's pay is one of the best in the industry) but he doesn't have to censor himself, which I feel is very important to him. A lot of you really need to stop trying to read in between the lines, or another words, stop putting words in Monte's mouth, ffs.
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On November 19 2014 04:50 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:43 Numy wrote:
Whether he works for them currently or not I still don't see how you can interpret that statement as "Riot is terrible" when it's clearly "I want to do things I may not be able to do at Riot". It's almost as if Sufficiency can't imagine why someone would rather be a freelancer/self employed vs being an employee. He is a freelancer now. Freelancer != self-employed. I think he might fall into obscurity now that he won't be casting anything. I wish him best of luck on SI.
where are you getting the idea that just because korea is switching to a league format that riot is taking control of production/casting away from OGN?
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On November 19 2014 04:38 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 04:36 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:30 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:26 nafta wrote:On November 19 2014 04:13 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:06 wei2coolman wrote:On November 19 2014 04:03 Sufficiency wrote:On November 19 2014 04:00 Goumindong wrote:
Well if he thinks he can keep making the contracts then he might view it as stable. But well, he expressly said he didn't want to trade his freedom for the stability. I think that's just the salt talking to be honest. He would be doing almost exactly the same thing working for Riot. Do you think Riot would actually want Monte's casting for LCS? It's a completely different level of casting. Do you even watch OGN? DOA and Monte's casting is vastly fucking different than what Riot has going on for LCS right now. Being self-employed/free-lancer is something he enjoys, nothing wrong with that. Plus, do you think Riot would let Monte get away with Summoning Insight if he was employed under Rito? It can still be done, but it will be Riot's talk show, dlne by Monte, on Riot's capacity. But Monte wants to sheep Thorin and I respect his life choices. Yeah you definitely don't sound like someone who just dislikes him.... The guy said riot employment isn't for him.Don't see anything wrong with that.His reasoning is also not a random shitty one. Sorry that sounded too sarcastic. However, my point remains that he could have worded that answer in half a dozen different ways that does not involve "Riot is a terrible company to work at" Here is another quote from the ama: If/When League dies out, what will you end up doing after? The advantage of working for OnGameNet is that I can transition to the next big game smoothly. I think we're years away from LoL dying, but when the time comes my position offers me the opportunity to take a crack at the next title. I hope to continue working with OGN for a long time. Also your point doesn't remain.What other way can he say that he can't do shit like casting other games or non riot talk shows if he gets employed? He doesn't work for OGN anymore because he is not casting Korean LCS? OGN did not renew his contract yet according to one SI episode. I could be wrong.
There is no such thing as Korean LCS.
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United States37500 Posts
It's called KR LCS cause of the format only. Some of you are a tad delusional to think OGN is stepping aside for Riot KR.
There's no one that does it better than OGN. Pretty sure Riot realizes that too.
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