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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 21 2014 00:06 GMT
#1581
Do you have me on your friend list?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 00:14:47
September 21 2014 00:14 GMT
#1582
Don't think so?

My IGN is Ketarah, gogogogo
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 21 2014 00:48 GMT
#1583
OH MY GOD BOT LANE AZIR IS AWESOME

Nope nope it's not it's still bad.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 21 2014 00:51 GMT
#1584
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 21 2014 01:26 GMT
#1585
why nobody plays IE/Shyv on ezreal, i always feel trinity 1st is a lot weaker than IE and shyv would help him with wave clear and make his midgame power spike stronger
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 01:46:06
September 21 2014 01:45 GMT
#1586
On September 21 2014 10:26 kongoline wrote:
why nobody plays IE/Shyv on ezreal, i always feel trinity 1st is a lot weaker than IE and shyv would help him with wave clear and make his midgame power spike stronger

because if you're going to build damage, then you should just play lucian/tristana/kogmaw/etc.

Also BotRK 1st item Ez is also a thing, so there's that too.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 21 2014 02:55 GMT
#1587
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 21 2014 03:01 GMT
#1588
I got a free Arcade MF skin, so I'm just WAITING for my time to play ADC. Out of like 490 ranked games this season I've only played 8 ADC games though, so could take a while.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 21 2014 03:22 GMT
#1589
On September 21 2014 08:33 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 08:18 nafta wrote:
On September 21 2014 08:16 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 21 2014 07:54 krndandaman wrote:
although my experience with azir has been pretty underwhelming (I have yet to see an azir in ranked win) I do think he'll be rather good once people actually learn to play him well.

also I'm rather happy with the spot zilean is in atm. he's not in OP territory but he's also a very strong pick. I remember the days people would bitch at me for picking zilean lol. anyone know if he's going to get nerfed or reworked? Haven't really heard much talk about zilean in terms of nerfs. also morg snare is still bullshit.

He's super popular in picks and bans at Worlds at the moment, so prepare for nerfs.

Before he became popular, Riot was talking about reworking him.

Riot was talking about how they want to remove global passives since they did it for tf and zilean still has his.It is just a load of crap.

didnt they talk about it in the context zil is going to have his removed too

They also brought up the 'problem' of him only having one damage skill, and that being frustrating to play against because it is so powerful.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 21 2014 03:39 GMT
#1590
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 03:56:01
September 21 2014 03:49 GMT
#1591
On September 21 2014 12:39 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 12:22 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 21 2014 08:33 kongoline wrote:
On September 21 2014 08:18 nafta wrote:
On September 21 2014 08:16 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 21 2014 07:54 krndandaman wrote:
although my experience with azir has been pretty underwhelming (I have yet to see an azir in ranked win) I do think he'll be rather good once people actually learn to play him well.

also I'm rather happy with the spot zilean is in atm. he's not in OP territory but he's also a very strong pick. I remember the days people would bitch at me for picking zilean lol. anyone know if he's going to get nerfed or reworked? Haven't really heard much talk about zilean in terms of nerfs. also morg snare is still bullshit.

He's super popular in picks and bans at Worlds at the moment, so prepare for nerfs.

Before he became popular, Riot was talking about reworking him.

Riot was talking about how they want to remove global passives since they did it for tf and zilean still has his.It is just a load of crap.

didnt they talk about it in the context zil is going to have his removed too

They also brought up the 'problem' of him only having one damage skill, and that being frustrating to play against because it is so powerful.


thats such bs. zilean hasn't been changed for so long and now people are starting to complain about him. i do think a rework would be nice to make him more 'modern' but no nerfs pls. its not even like tristana where all her counters got nerfed.

zilean didnt change but game around him has, if u havent noticed game is totally different compared to s2
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 21 2014 04:32 GMT
#1592
On September 21 2014 12:39 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 12:22 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 21 2014 08:33 kongoline wrote:
On September 21 2014 08:18 nafta wrote:
On September 21 2014 08:16 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 21 2014 07:54 krndandaman wrote:
although my experience with azir has been pretty underwhelming (I have yet to see an azir in ranked win) I do think he'll be rather good once people actually learn to play him well.

also I'm rather happy with the spot zilean is in atm. he's not in OP territory but he's also a very strong pick. I remember the days people would bitch at me for picking zilean lol. anyone know if he's going to get nerfed or reworked? Haven't really heard much talk about zilean in terms of nerfs. also morg snare is still bullshit.

He's super popular in picks and bans at Worlds at the moment, so prepare for nerfs.

Before he became popular, Riot was talking about reworking him.

Riot was talking about how they want to remove global passives since they did it for tf and zilean still has his.It is just a load of crap.

didnt they talk about it in the context zil is going to have his removed too

They also brought up the 'problem' of him only having one damage skill, and that being frustrating to play against because it is so powerful.


thats such bs. zilean hasn't been changed for so long and now people are starting to complain about him. i do think a rework would be nice to make him more 'modern' but no nerfs pls. its not even like tristana where all her counters got nerfed.


I haven't played him in forever except for one game but i still remember him being annoying as hell to play against

and even playing him it just felt so silly running in and going q-w-q and getting like 200 free damage down in half a second
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 21 2014 04:32 GMT
#1593
On September 21 2014 10:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 10:26 kongoline wrote:
why nobody plays IE/Shyv on ezreal, i always feel trinity 1st is a lot weaker than IE and shyv would help him with wave clear and make his midgame power spike stronger

because if you're going to build damage, then you should just play lucian/tristana/kogmaw/etc.

Also BotRK 1st item Ez is also a thing, so there's that too.


I actually dont know why no one builds TF on lucian anymore. You really dont need the waveclear from Shiv. I suppose part of it is IE + TF is just breaking the bank, but it is still situationally really powerful.
Freeeeeeedom
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
September 21 2014 05:18 GMT
#1594
On September 21 2014 08:53 Ketara wrote:
Somebody duo with me in a normal, I want to try bot lane Azir and see how terribad it is.


I think thresh would pair really well with him.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 05:25:10
September 21 2014 05:20 GMT
#1595
On September 21 2014 08:53 Ketara wrote:
Somebody duo with me in a normal, I want to try bot lane Azir and see how terribad it is.


NA?

On September 21 2014 14:18 DiracMonopole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 08:53 Ketara wrote:
Somebody duo with me in a normal, I want to try bot lane Azir and see how terribad it is.


I think thresh would pair really well with him.


I am guessing that his early laning weakness is too pronounced to do much of anything. His base AS is 20% lower than most ADC's and he can only trade effectively when his W is up whereas AD's can trade effectively regardless of whether or not their abilities are up.

If you survive it could be strong but you have to survive
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 21 2014 05:27 GMT
#1596
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 05:28:50
September 21 2014 05:27 GMT
#1597
On September 21 2014 13:32 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 10:45 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 21 2014 10:26 kongoline wrote:
why nobody plays IE/Shyv on ezreal, i always feel trinity 1st is a lot weaker than IE and shyv would help him with wave clear and make his midgame power spike stronger

because if you're going to build damage, then you should just play lucian/tristana/kogmaw/etc.

Also BotRK 1st item Ez is also a thing, so there's that too.


I actually dont know why no one builds TF on lucian anymore. You really dont need the waveclear from Shiv. I suppose part of it is IE + TF is just breaking the bank, but it is still situationally really powerful.

Cuz fucking crit is amazing on Lucian.

IE is probably the best first big item for Lucian, and Shiv just continues the power spike with exponential growth of crit. While, TF is a bit underwhelming for such a big purchase as a 2nd item.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 21 2014 05:30 GMT
#1598
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2014 05:35 GMT
#1599
On September 21 2014 14:30 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 14:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 21 2014 13:32 cLutZ wrote:
On September 21 2014 10:45 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 21 2014 10:26 kongoline wrote:
why nobody plays IE/Shyv on ezreal, i always feel trinity 1st is a lot weaker than IE and shyv would help him with wave clear and make his midgame power spike stronger

because if you're going to build damage, then you should just play lucian/tristana/kogmaw/etc.

Also BotRK 1st item Ez is also a thing, so there's that too.


I actually dont know why no one builds TF on lucian anymore. You really dont need the waveclear from Shiv. I suppose part of it is IE + TF is just breaking the bank, but it is still situationally really powerful.

Cuz fucking crit is amazing on Lucian.


^
dat passive

trinity force lucian was good before the BT change since you had a huge power spike once you got TF but you can't do that now. IE>TF comes way too late. needing another 1.2k gold for TF over shiv is just not worth it.

I've been fucking saying how crit is so good with his passive ever since he was released, I guess BT was just that strong before they changed it.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 21 2014 05:38 GMT
#1600
Ketara tried Azir bot twice with me. Only the second game I was supporting him (I picked Soraka). The first game someone else instalocked Ashe support and I jungled instead.

My impression is that Azir is simply bad right now regardless of lane. Sure he has great theoretical DPS, but the way he delivers it has very low range and pretty much does not move. At his current state I think he has potential against certain team comps, but otherwise he is just terrible.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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