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[Patch 4.16] Azir General Discussion - Page 79

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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 20 2014 21:03 GMT
#1561
Ideally he would work like Earth Spirit in Dota where it's a 5th ability to summon the soldiers but League either doesn't have the tech capable of doing that or Riot specifically doesn't want more than 4 abilities without transform.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 20 2014 21:15 GMT
#1562
No tech, same with pets. Of course they could add the tech but I don't think they want to atm.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
September 20 2014 21:23 GMT
#1563
Idk, I've seen an Azir shit on people in mid.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 20 2014 21:38 GMT
#1564
On September 21 2014 06:23 Gahlo wrote:
Idk, I've seen an Azir shit on people in mid.

Also known as the solo q phenomenon.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 20 2014 21:58 GMT
#1565
We got partly carried by a Lux. So I can't bitch at this one.
QQ

I gotta get stronger so I can make any Lux in my team irrelevant and keep trashing the champion.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 20 2014 22:06 GMT
#1566
I've seen scarra play him quite a lot on stream (he's starting a game now actually) and he looks pretty strong. Really hard to play but the soldiers auto+Q+auto hits like a truck with a lot of AP. But I can agree his lvl 1 is very awkward though.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 20 2014 22:41 GMT
#1567
It's wayyyyyy to early to build the Azir hype or Azir shit wagon. He's been out less than a week and was disabled for virtually that entire time.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 22:51:17
September 20 2014 22:47 GMT
#1568
On September 21 2014 07:06 -Zoda- wrote:
I've seen scarra play him quite a lot on stream (he's starting a game now actually) and he looks pretty strong. Really hard to play but the soldiers auto+Q+auto hits like a truck with a lot of AP. But I can agree his lvl 1 is very awkward though.

Well that game didn't end well. The 3k Elo shockwave to make Graves seem good late game.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 22:54:20
September 20 2014 22:48 GMT
#1569
I still think Azir is a wonky style ADC who actually does Magic damage...

Needs a babysitter to get going.

My experience is same as Ketara's, too many solo laners can just zone your entirely from your creep wave at level 1. You dont even have the capability to assist a jungler who comes early. Its pretty bad.

Thing is, even when you get rolling you can't really make plays on Azir. Think about all the playmaking Ahri brings, and now picture Azir as the complete opposite. Any playmaking ability Ahri has, Azir has the complete and utter opposite unless you built ridiculous items. Even if you build like fully tanky AP you are squishy as hell, and dont have the burst to do anything aside from be an ADC with self peel.

I'm not saying he is bad, but he isn't your typical mage. Playstyle is much more ADC than mage.

On September 21 2014 05:45 M2 wrote:
To add to Azir's shit wagon, I also think that he is not a mid laner, he just doesn't have it in him. I think he is more suitable as a top laner type of RoA 1st item and then going tanky bringing utility, team fight and initiation for the team


Even if you build tanky this doesn't work.

1) You will die in lane.

2) Even with tanky items, you are still pretty squishy

3) His R is ridiculously hard to playmake with. Its kind of like Old Nidalee Pounce. Just really awkward to use as anything other than a "FUCK YOU DONT DIVE ME!@" tool.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 20 2014 22:54 GMT
#1570
--- Nuked ---
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 20 2014 23:12 GMT
#1571
The only time I saw Azir in ranked he won. He did really bad in lane but he teamfought well
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 20 2014 23:14 GMT
#1572
I wonder if he'd be able to play in a duo lane at all.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 20 2014 23:16 GMT
#1573
On September 21 2014 07:54 krndandaman wrote:
although my experience with azir has been pretty underwhelming (I have yet to see an azir in ranked win) I do think he'll be rather good once people actually learn to play him well.

also I'm rather happy with the spot zilean is in atm. he's not in OP territory but he's also a very strong pick. I remember the days people would bitch at me for picking zilean lol. anyone know if he's going to get nerfed or reworked? Haven't really heard much talk about zilean in terms of nerfs. also morg snare is still bullshit.

He's super popular in picks and bans at Worlds at the moment, so prepare for nerfs.

Before he became popular, Riot was talking about reworking him.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 20 2014 23:18 GMT
#1574
On September 21 2014 08:16 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 07:54 krndandaman wrote:
although my experience with azir has been pretty underwhelming (I have yet to see an azir in ranked win) I do think he'll be rather good once people actually learn to play him well.

also I'm rather happy with the spot zilean is in atm. he's not in OP territory but he's also a very strong pick. I remember the days people would bitch at me for picking zilean lol. anyone know if he's going to get nerfed or reworked? Haven't really heard much talk about zilean in terms of nerfs. also morg snare is still bullshit.

He's super popular in picks and bans at Worlds at the moment, so prepare for nerfs.

Before he became popular, Riot was talking about reworking him.

Riot was talking about how they want to remove global passives since they did it for tf and zilean still has his.It is just a load of crap.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 20 2014 23:21 GMT
#1575
To be fair, Zil's global passive is the worst one.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 20 2014 23:33 GMT
#1576
On September 21 2014 08:18 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 08:16 JazzVortical wrote:
On September 21 2014 07:54 krndandaman wrote:
although my experience with azir has been pretty underwhelming (I have yet to see an azir in ranked win) I do think he'll be rather good once people actually learn to play him well.

also I'm rather happy with the spot zilean is in atm. he's not in OP territory but he's also a very strong pick. I remember the days people would bitch at me for picking zilean lol. anyone know if he's going to get nerfed or reworked? Haven't really heard much talk about zilean in terms of nerfs. also morg snare is still bullshit.

He's super popular in picks and bans at Worlds at the moment, so prepare for nerfs.

Before he became popular, Riot was talking about reworking him.

Riot was talking about how they want to remove global passives since they did it for tf and zilean still has his.It is just a load of crap.

didnt they talk about it in the context zil is going to have his removed too
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 20 2014 23:37 GMT
#1577
On September 21 2014 08:21 Ketara wrote:
To be fair, Zil's global passive is the worst one.

It is still really strong.Can win you the other lanes.Especially mid can be real terror if it is assassin vs assassin.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 23:57:30
September 20 2014 23:45 GMT
#1578
I shat on support Azir, but I was playing Lulu and I'm pretty balls to the wall when it comes to aggression, so if he fucks up his Q I'm going to zone him hard (I'm also going to hit 2 first).
Then teamfights came and it didn't matter because the team as a whole fed a bunch of people, and when a support can afford to rush rylai then claim, doesn't matter if it's Azir or another one. But pre-6 he was never a threat.

Wowow. That 5-man Gnar -> Zyra ult -> 4-man Ori ult right before Zyra's pop on Scarra's stream was so fucking scary. Easy ace, wombo combo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 20 2014 23:51 GMT
#1579
On September 21 2014 08:12 Sufficiency wrote:
The only time I saw Azir in ranked he won. He did really bad in lane but he teamfought well



I'm telling you guys, hes not a mid laner, he is an ADC.... err, APC I guess.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 20 2014 23:53 GMT
#1580
Somebody duo with me in a normal, I want to try bot lane Azir and see how terribad it is.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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