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update on cheesing the summoner icons, just played a game as Shaco as "tank" and got credit so still stumped on playing Vel'Koz bot as a mage
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Oh my god top lane maokai is so hard what the fuck, I thought he'd be easy and straight forward with all that sustain and poke but I just get shit on all the time.
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So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it.
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Theres nothing better then watching one of your enemies go 12-1 as leona only to Q-W-E-R-Q-Exhaust trololol them into uselessness in a teamfight
Only to then watch your teammates focus the 2-5 tank or some shit D:
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On August 01 2014 08:41 Fusilero wrote:
Oh my god top lane maokai is so hard what the fuck, I thought he'd be easy and straight forward with all that sustain and poke but I just get shit on all the time.
What are you maxing and in what matchup? He can do fine against most lanes that I've played so far.
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On August 01 2014 09:01 Senorcuidado wrote:
So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it.
Janna is less good against Thresh(hook combo on you wins a fight right off bat), but always has been good against Braum and Leona.
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On August 01 2014 11:13 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 09:01 Senorcuidado wrote:
So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it. Janna is less good against Thresh(hook combo on you wins a fight right off bat), but always has been good against Braum and Leona.
I feel that the Janna>Leona matchup is a bit overstated. Sure, if you can consistently tornado Leona when she uses her E it's heavily Janna favored, but that takes quite a bit of timing to get down.
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On August 01 2014 11:58 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 11:13 Goumindong wrote:On August 01 2014 09:01 Senorcuidado wrote:
So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it. Janna is less good against Thresh(hook combo on you wins a fight right off bat), but always has been good against Braum and Leona. I feel that the Janna>Leona matchup is a bit overstated. Sure, if you can consistently tornado Leona when she uses her E it's heavily Janna favored, but that takes quite a bit of timing to get down.
you just q when the leona E comes out and it's like automatic, it's way easier than you might think lol
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On August 01 2014 06:52 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 04:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On July 31 2014 20:54 padfoota wrote:On July 31 2014 10:01 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Janna's really good against Tristana. I played a MF/Janna lane vs Morg/Trist and Janna caught Trist mid-jump 2 times with a tornado for kills when she otherwise would have escaped. The Trist was overextending technically because that possibility exists, but literally nobody was prepared for it happening because I'm sure nobody but my Janna knew what she intended to happen.
MF and Wukong are my top two and they're 69% and 78% respectively. Hopefully I can make D1 this season, I'm in promos for D2 right now No. Thresh rapes tristana. If you want to absolutely shut down a tristana, thresh is the way to go. If you get in range to flay her back, your Q will never miss, since the delay for her W and your Q is practically the same. If she tries to jump away before you flay, your flay will bring her back down immediately. Her jump is also easily hookable in mid air if you just Q anywhere in the flight path since trist will technically "catch it" in mid air. I love trist and I play extremely aggressive with her (standard chinese server), so having a thresh straight up trashing me in the face was very haunting. Granted, Im not sure how aggressive ADCs are on your server, but if you want a good idea, lane vs Vasili to get a feel of how we play laning phase here on the asian servers. Our Sword of the Occult is already named after Draven due to a certain famous Draven player, and the only proper way to play Draven now is to tower dive all the time (as long as you trade 1-1 you win) We learn the game by over extending all the time, and the difference between a diamond and gold is that they are even more aggressive, yet the aggression is refined, and they somehow get away with it too. If you main trist, ban thresh if you want a good time. On the other hand, any aggressive but non-all in support works for trist.. Especially a certain yordle. I'm not arguing with you, but you didn't disprove my point. Janna is good against Trist. No. MF is good against trist (and Morg). Janna is simply good if your AD is stronger, especially if you have a counter. Even then Janna should not have been able to interrupt trists jump without trist or MF or both being incredibly out of position.
I thought the same until I played with this strong diamond Janna main. Your ADC's ability to trade is so much stronger when they have a free shield and an AD steroid. W creates spots to force escapes and Q can interrupt a lot of things, and that's not even taking the free movespeed and her ult's disengage/ability to change all-ins. I mean obviously more aggressive ADCs are going to be able to take advantage of this more than, say, Graves or Corki, but still, I think you underestimate how much pressure Janna puts off against Tristana in a lane with no sustain. She covers a lot of weaknesses, harasses really well with W/E + autos, and has really good disengage/interrupts.
I'm still of the opinion that Janna is good against Tristana. Two of Trist's biggest weaknesses in the early game are range and sustain. Janna makes both of those harder for Trist. Trading with Janna is hard when shield negates E and all-in isn't really an option unless there's a huge misplay because of her entire kit being good at disengage and protect as well as harass. QWQ with a shield on your ADC nets a ton of free damage and Tornado helps control the wave against strong pushers like Trist/Lucian/Cait.
I will state for the record that I pick MF into every matchup, though. She's ridiculous and extremely underrated.
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On August 01 2014 12:12 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 11:58 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 01 2014 11:13 Goumindong wrote:On August 01 2014 09:01 Senorcuidado wrote:
So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it. Janna is less good against Thresh(hook combo on you wins a fight right off bat), but always has been good against Braum and Leona. I feel that the Janna>Leona matchup is a bit overstated. Sure, if you can consistently tornado Leona when she uses her E it's heavily Janna favored, but that takes quite a bit of timing to get down. you just q when the leona E comes out and it's like automatic, it's way easier than you might think lol
Meh. Usually even if you tornado the e you barely win the trade. From what I've seen you only need to avoid the tornado one in three or one in four times to come out ahead as leona. Personally, I think both Janna and Gragas Q need to lose the charge mechanic, for their kits as a whole to work long term.
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On August 01 2014 12:12 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 11:58 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 01 2014 11:13 Goumindong wrote:On August 01 2014 09:01 Senorcuidado wrote:
So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it. Janna is less good against Thresh(hook combo on you wins a fight right off bat), but always has been good against Braum and Leona. I feel that the Janna>Leona matchup is a bit overstated. Sure, if you can consistently tornado Leona when she uses her E it's heavily Janna favored, but that takes quite a bit of timing to get down. you just q when the leona E comes out and it's like automatic, it's way easier than you might think lol
Yeah you can miss her by half a mile but she'll pull herself into the tornado anyway.
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On August 01 2014 12:12 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 11:58 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 01 2014 11:13 Goumindong wrote:On August 01 2014 09:01 Senorcuidado wrote:
So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it. Janna is less good against Thresh(hook combo on you wins a fight right off bat), but always has been good against Braum and Leona. I feel that the Janna>Leona matchup is a bit overstated. Sure, if you can consistently tornado Leona when she uses her E it's heavily Janna favored, but that takes quite a bit of timing to get down. you just q when the leona E comes out and it's like automatic, it's way easier than you might think lol
if you Q too early Leona's E will pull her anyways.
The problem is that if the Janna plays perfectly then yea, she wins the lane. But she fucks up once and the Leona can snowball hard from there.
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On August 01 2014 12:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 06:52 Goumindong wrote:On August 01 2014 04:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On July 31 2014 20:54 padfoota wrote:On July 31 2014 10:01 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Janna's really good against Tristana. I played a MF/Janna lane vs Morg/Trist and Janna caught Trist mid-jump 2 times with a tornado for kills when she otherwise would have escaped. The Trist was overextending technically because that possibility exists, but literally nobody was prepared for it happening because I'm sure nobody but my Janna knew what she intended to happen.
MF and Wukong are my top two and they're 69% and 78% respectively. Hopefully I can make D1 this season, I'm in promos for D2 right now No. Thresh rapes tristana. If you want to absolutely shut down a tristana, thresh is the way to go. If you get in range to flay her back, your Q will never miss, since the delay for her W and your Q is practically the same. If she tries to jump away before you flay, your flay will bring her back down immediately. Her jump is also easily hookable in mid air if you just Q anywhere in the flight path since trist will technically "catch it" in mid air. I love trist and I play extremely aggressive with her (standard chinese server), so having a thresh straight up trashing me in the face was very haunting. Granted, Im not sure how aggressive ADCs are on your server, but if you want a good idea, lane vs Vasili to get a feel of how we play laning phase here on the asian servers. Our Sword of the Occult is already named after Draven due to a certain famous Draven player, and the only proper way to play Draven now is to tower dive all the time (as long as you trade 1-1 you win) We learn the game by over extending all the time, and the difference between a diamond and gold is that they are even more aggressive, yet the aggression is refined, and they somehow get away with it too. If you main trist, ban thresh if you want a good time. On the other hand, any aggressive but non-all in support works for trist.. Especially a certain yordle. I'm not arguing with you, but you didn't disprove my point. Janna is good against Trist. No. MF is good against trist (and Morg). Janna is simply good if your AD is stronger, especially if you have a counter. Even then Janna should not have been able to interrupt trists jump without trist or MF or both being incredibly out of position. I thought the same until I played with this strong diamond Janna main. Your ADC's ability to trade is so much stronger when they have a free shield and an AD steroid. W creates spots to force escapes and Q can interrupt a lot of things, and that's not even taking the free movespeed and her ult's disengage/ability to change all-ins. I mean obviously more aggressive ADCs are going to be able to take advantage of this more than, say, Graves or Corki, but still, I think you underestimate how much pressure Janna puts off against Tristana in a lane with no sustain. She covers a lot of weaknesses, harasses really well with W/E + autos, and has really good disengage/interrupts. I'm still of the opinion that Janna is good against Tristana. Two of Trist's biggest weaknesses in the early game are range and sustain. Janna makes both of those harder for Trist. Trading with Janna is hard when shield negates E and all-in isn't really an option unless there's a huge misplay because of her entire kit being good at disengage and protect as well as harass. QWQ with a shield on your ADC nets a ton of free damage and Tornado helps control the wave against strong pushers like Trist/Lucian/Cait. I will state for the record that I pick MF into every matchup, though. She's ridiculous and extremely underrated.
Janna doesn't have any sustain either, and she doesn't have the range to harass trist, and since trist can harass through creeps, she doesn't have any particular advantage to put damage down on her. Her main advantage against Tristana is that most AD's beat trist in lane and if/when this happens, Janna can cement it. Janna has always been like this.
If say you were playing Ezreal instead of an MF and Trist was hard pushing you in while letting Morg set up bindings, you would change your tune about the strength of Janna against trist.
On August 01 2014 11:58 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 11:13 Goumindong wrote:On August 01 2014 09:01 Senorcuidado wrote:
So after all this talk about Janna I wanted to try her and I swear I carried 5 games in a row. It didn't matter how bad my adc was; I could carry the lane. I now believe in the lane presence. Leona, Thresh, Braum, I could counter initiate or disengage easily. In small scale skirmishes I felt more impactful than Leona. The only rough part was late game fights where I can't find a good chance to ult a lot of times. I should be less timid with the ult, since it causes me to die sometimes, but I fear those scenarios where the idiot Janna ruins a whole team fight. I'm sure that will come with practice. She is amazing at peeling, but I do miss being able to lock down fed carries like Leona can. I started with Spellthief in the first two games and then tried Ancient Coin and liked coin much better. Overall I'm very sold on the Janna, and you should try it. Janna is less good against Thresh(hook combo on you wins a fight right off bat), but always has been good against Braum and Leona. I feel that the Janna>Leona matchup is a bit overstated. Sure, if you can consistently tornado Leona when she uses her E it's heavily Janna favored, but that takes quite a bit of timing to get down.
Put your AD in a line behind Leona. When Leona' E's you Q down the line of your carry to Leona. Easy Peasy. You can only not interrupt Leona's E if you're too close to leona. You're too close because Leona can e you and potentially not have it interrupted. She can also flash/stun at that distance to swing the lane if her AD is capable of following. If you are too close to Leona and she E's your carry instead of you, you want to tornado towards your AD. Leona's E will take her right into your "backwards" tornado.
Edit: Because of your bonus move speed you basically have no excuse to ever be "too close" to Leona.
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On August 01 2014 14:56 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 12:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On August 01 2014 06:52 Goumindong wrote:On August 01 2014 04:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On July 31 2014 20:54 padfoota wrote:On July 31 2014 10:01 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Janna's really good against Tristana. I played a MF/Janna lane vs Morg/Trist and Janna caught Trist mid-jump 2 times with a tornado for kills when she otherwise would have escaped. The Trist was overextending technically because that possibility exists, but literally nobody was prepared for it happening because I'm sure nobody but my Janna knew what she intended to happen.
MF and Wukong are my top two and they're 69% and 78% respectively. Hopefully I can make D1 this season, I'm in promos for D2 right now No. Thresh rapes tristana. If you want to absolutely shut down a tristana, thresh is the way to go. If you get in range to flay her back, your Q will never miss, since the delay for her W and your Q is practically the same. If she tries to jump away before you flay, your flay will bring her back down immediately. Her jump is also easily hookable in mid air if you just Q anywhere in the flight path since trist will technically "catch it" in mid air. I love trist and I play extremely aggressive with her (standard chinese server), so having a thresh straight up trashing me in the face was very haunting. Granted, Im not sure how aggressive ADCs are on your server, but if you want a good idea, lane vs Vasili to get a feel of how we play laning phase here on the asian servers. Our Sword of the Occult is already named after Draven due to a certain famous Draven player, and the only proper way to play Draven now is to tower dive all the time (as long as you trade 1-1 you win) We learn the game by over extending all the time, and the difference between a diamond and gold is that they are even more aggressive, yet the aggression is refined, and they somehow get away with it too. If you main trist, ban thresh if you want a good time. On the other hand, any aggressive but non-all in support works for trist.. Especially a certain yordle. I'm not arguing with you, but you didn't disprove my point. Janna is good against Trist. No. MF is good against trist (and Morg). Janna is simply good if your AD is stronger, especially if you have a counter. Even then Janna should not have been able to interrupt trists jump without trist or MF or both being incredibly out of position. I thought the same until I played with this strong diamond Janna main. Your ADC's ability to trade is so much stronger when they have a free shield and an AD steroid. W creates spots to force escapes and Q can interrupt a lot of things, and that's not even taking the free movespeed and her ult's disengage/ability to change all-ins. I mean obviously more aggressive ADCs are going to be able to take advantage of this more than, say, Graves or Corki, but still, I think you underestimate how much pressure Janna puts off against Tristana in a lane with no sustain. She covers a lot of weaknesses, harasses really well with W/E + autos, and has really good disengage/interrupts. I'm still of the opinion that Janna is good against Tristana. Two of Trist's biggest weaknesses in the early game are range and sustain. Janna makes both of those harder for Trist. Trading with Janna is hard when shield negates E and all-in isn't really an option unless there's a huge misplay because of her entire kit being good at disengage and protect as well as harass. QWQ with a shield on your ADC nets a ton of free damage and Tornado helps control the wave against strong pushers like Trist/Lucian/Cait. I will state for the record that I pick MF into every matchup, though. She's ridiculous and extremely underrated. Janna doesn't have any sustain either, and she doesn't have the range to harass trist, and since trist can harass through creeps, she doesn't have any particular advantage to put damage down on her. Her main advantage against Tristana is that most AD's beat trist in lane and if/when this happens, Janna can cement it. Janna has always been like this. If say you were playing Ezreal instead of an MF and Trist was hard pushing you in while letting Morg set up bindings, you would change your tune about the strength of Janna against trist.
The idea that Janna doesn't have sustain is kinda irrelevant, in my opinion, A) because she has a shield which can absorb damage and B) because sustain on an ADC is different from sustain on a support. Janna will have coin, at the least. Trist will have Doran's Blades, vamp scepter, potions and summoner heal if his support doesn't provide it. Trist's sustain is a lot more conditional, in my opinion, because at a certain point you can't safely rely on lifesteal to sustain you, especially early.
Also, range isn't the end-all definition of what allows a champion to harass or trade. If this was the case, Jinx or Cait would be unbeatable in lane. Zephyr outranges Trist for the first 5 levels and it's very hard for a Trist to trade with an ADC when she's slowed and Janna can shield and buff whoever is targeted by Explosive Shot, which is a majority of Trist's damage in a trade. When Janna Zephyrs Tristana, Trist's choices are usually either to W away or stand and fight until it wears off. Running is obviously bad and kiting is about the same as fighting at early levels. This is an opportunity that Janna can create specifically against Trist, who only has high damage output in trades if the trade is limited to auto-e-auto. Surely this is also ADC matchup specific, but there are a lot of ADCs that can also take advantage of this quite well.
I mean, I don't think I'm being unreasonable in saying "Janna is good against Tristana." If I were to pick my preferred supports against Trist, I'd probably go with 1) Thresh and 2) Janna. Maybe Nami trumps Janna but the extra attack damage and shield for auto-trades is really, really strong against Trist who relies a lot on Explosive Shot for harass and trades. The minion damage isn't hard to avoid (position away from minions that will explode) and just have Janna shield you when you go in to trade. Trist is only good at trading because auto-E-auto outdamages most other ADCs in a trade. The shield negates some of that damage and isn't affected by the healing debuff, and the AD steroid is obviously good for trading.
I probably am not being very precise about what I'm saying here. I'm not saying Janna hardcounters Tristana. I'm saying that she is really good at providing specific types of opportunities against her, which might "only" cement your ADC beating Trist in lane.
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Well I'm still a huge Gragas fan and I think that he should get his old Q, without any charges. Anyway, I still think Graggy is a strong laner, I'm actually going for R>Q>E>W max build. RoA as core item, then Zhonya and some AP/Gauntlet/something else.
Also something went wrong with Rito soloqueue matchmaking for a while, as I being Gold V got S5-G2 teammates and the opposite teams had 3 unrankeds and 2 golds. Unranked guy no1 went Irelia top vs Udyr and in 25 minute game he had 23 !!!!! CS and ran Flash/Heal. Unranked guy no2 went Smite/Heal LeeSin and basically missed all the Q's for entire game. When he ganked me mid I got a double kill....
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Been spamming maokai top, and he is so incredibly strong. Can survive most lane bullies through a combination of Q being really good at pushing out melee's, and his sustain against spamming ranged champs gives him an edge once he finishes roa and gets a bit tankier.
Q cost is basically nonexistent and that combined with W does a whole boatload of damage, especially once you finish RoA. Then once you build full tank from there you have such insane durability and damage that doesn't fall off because you spam a 20% max hp nuke every 5.4 seconds, with Q on 3.6.
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On August 01 2014 15:33 739 wrote:
Also something went wrong with Rito soloqueue matchmaking for a while, as I being Gold V got S5-G2 teammates and the opposite teams had 3 unrankeds and 2 golds. Unranked guy no1 went Irelia top vs Udyr and in 25 minute game he had 23 !!!!! CS and ran Flash/Heal. Unranked guy no2 went Smite/Heal LeeSin and basically missed all the Q's for entire game. When he ganked me mid I got a double kill....
IN low levels i'm seeing 5 under 30's playing vs 1 plat 2 gold and 1 silver and a lvl 15ish to "balance" it. been 3-4 games like this since patch. only 1 diamond player, who was duo queuing with the lowest level, but most games the higher ranked people are solo.
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he pushes like crazy so you can usually snowball your team with tower gold even if you aren't becoming a fed monster assassin.
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