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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-31 01:32:55
May 31 2014 01:32 GMT
#1321
On May 31 2014 10:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Win rate on blue side, separated by player's league:



Win rate on blue
Challenger 59.75%
Diamond 56.53%
Platinum 55.88%
Gold 55.94%
Silver 55.11%
Bronze 53.10%


Before you go WTF CHALLENGER WINS 60% ON BLUE SIDE, know that challenger players win 55% of the time over all, so their blue side win rate is inflated too.

Not really a chess guy, but I think white advantage is around the same. Hovering around 55%.


Funny, one redditor PMed me saying the same.

This is actually a lot more serious than I originally expected.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-31 01:35:44
May 31 2014 01:35 GMT
#1322
this literally has no bearing on 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all games played except for the final game of a tournament set when the score is even.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-31 01:44:28
May 31 2014 01:44 GMT
#1323
On May 31 2014 10:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
this literally has no bearing on 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all games played except for the final game of a tournament set when the score is even.

It affects the games before the set is even too. Though tournament level play isn't shown in the chart.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-31 01:47:18
May 31 2014 01:46 GMT
#1324
both teams get both sides the same # of times in a set except for the final game.

wonder how long it'll be before there's a reddit thread: I'm wood 5 and just lost 10 in a row because i got purple side 8 times.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 31 2014 01:49 GMT
#1325
On May 31 2014 10:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Win rate on blue side, separated by player's league:



Win rate on blue
Challenger 59.75%
Diamond 56.53%
Platinum 55.88%
Gold 55.94%
Silver 55.11%
Bronze 53.10%


Before you go WTF CHALLENGER WINS 60% ON BLUE SIDE, know that challenger players win 55% of the time over all, so their blue side win rate is inflated too.

Not really a chess guy, but I think white advantage is around the same. Hovering around 55%.


What would first mover advantage have to do with League?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 31 2014 01:55 GMT
#1326
On May 31 2014 10:49 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 10:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 31 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Win rate on blue side, separated by player's league:



Win rate on blue
Challenger 59.75%
Diamond 56.53%
Platinum 55.88%
Gold 55.94%
Silver 55.11%
Bronze 53.10%


Before you go WTF CHALLENGER WINS 60% ON BLUE SIDE, know that challenger players win 55% of the time over all, so their blue side win rate is inflated too.

Not really a chess guy, but I think white advantage is around the same. Hovering around 55%.


What would first mover advantage have to do with League?

He's just saying the advantage in Chess is an often quoted example of an imbalanced game where League is more imbalanced.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 31 2014 01:59 GMT
#1327
On May 31 2014 10:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 10:49 Goumindong wrote:
On May 31 2014 10:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 31 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Win rate on blue side, separated by player's league:



Win rate on blue
Challenger 59.75%
Diamond 56.53%
Platinum 55.88%
Gold 55.94%
Silver 55.11%
Bronze 53.10%


Before you go WTF CHALLENGER WINS 60% ON BLUE SIDE, know that challenger players win 55% of the time over all, so their blue side win rate is inflated too.

Not really a chess guy, but I think white advantage is around the same. Hovering around 55%.


What would first mover advantage have to do with League?

He's just saying the advantage in Chess is an often quoted example of an imbalanced game where League is more imbalanced.


Yeah, it's just a way to compare league's blue side advantage to some other well known game's advantage for one particular side.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 31 2014 02:00 GMT
#1328
On May 31 2014 10:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 10:49 Goumindong wrote:
On May 31 2014 10:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 31 2014 10:13 Sufficiency wrote:
Win rate on blue side, separated by player's league:



Win rate on blue
Challenger 59.75%
Diamond 56.53%
Platinum 55.88%
Gold 55.94%
Silver 55.11%
Bronze 53.10%


Before you go WTF CHALLENGER WINS 60% ON BLUE SIDE, know that challenger players win 55% of the time over all, so their blue side win rate is inflated too.

Not really a chess guy, but I think white advantage is around the same. Hovering around 55%.


What would first mover advantage have to do with League?

He's just saying the advantage in Chess is an often quoted example of an imbalanced game where League is more imbalanced.

more so, an accepted imbalance in a highly competitive community
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 31 2014 02:29 GMT
#1329
On May 31 2014 09:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
LOL why would the air force sponsor cloud9? LOL

A reminder of where the last esports team sponsored by the air force finished in every league: dead last.
Glorious SEA doto
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
May 31 2014 02:35 GMT
#1330
It would be nice if they would allow players on purple to turn on an option like the "Always Up" option in NHL videogames. I'm not sure what would be required to make that a possibility, but it would certainly go a long ways towards evening out that win %.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 31 2014 03:50 GMT
#1331
On May 31 2014 10:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
this literally has no bearing on 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all games played except for the final game of a tournament set when the score is even.

Now somebody needs to crunch data to see the % of average joe landing on Blue side.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 31 2014 04:22 GMT
#1332
I got in a One For All. All Aatrox. Wish me luck.... no one will die this game.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 31 2014 04:55 GMT
#1333
On May 31 2014 09:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
LOL why would the air force sponsor cloud9? LOL

Strong team, all Americans, why not?
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-31 05:39:14
May 31 2014 05:38 GMT
#1334
On May 31 2014 07:51 GolemMadness wrote:
Before I had a Zac in 2 out of 3 games I played. It's getting kind of ridiculous. Riot really needs to do something about Zac.


In that Zac is bad or he's going to be new hipster FotM?

Cause as a Zac jungler back in s3, I'm 99% sure he's terrible in current meta. I did try him in a couple games too, he just doesn't do enough damage or get tanky fast enough.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 31 2014 06:28 GMT
#1335
It's a joke... People keep going "In x of my last x games I had people DC/drophack/AFK/troll/etc, this is ridiculous and Riot needs to do something about it."
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
May 31 2014 06:45 GMT
#1336
Well drophacking does exist, and Riot does need to fix that. DC's, trolls and afk'ers happen as well, it's just that most of those happen below Gold 1 or so. Not saying it doesn't happen in Gold+, but it seems to happen less at that ranking from what I know.

That's what the reporting system is for.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-31 06:54:22
May 31 2014 06:49 GMT
#1337
On May 31 2014 13:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 09:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
LOL why would the air force sponsor cloud9? LOL

Strong team, all Americans, why not?

I hope they do, I'll get to read all kinds of branch bashing if that happens
hahaha

On May 31 2014 10:00 MagnusWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 09:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
They wanna recruit LCS analysts to become military strategists.


But why would a professional soldier listen to an analyst, if they were actually good at war, they'd be the solders.../s


i doubt that. strategy in league is one thing, in real situation where peoples lives are on the line is a totally different one

The more I think about it, the last time i talked to the AF they told me recruitment rates for every branch are pretty low now despite the fact jobs are scarce, so i wouldnt be surprised if its another way to reach the masses. Even though I can only realistically see the Air force/Navy doing this personally.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 31 2014 08:18 GMT
#1338
On May 31 2014 09:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
They wanna recruit LCS analysts to become military strategists.


the sad part is that people will actually believe this, probably people on reddit
the same people who post Sun Tzu every two days and claim it helped them reach Gold 3
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 31 2014 09:33 GMT
#1339
Blitzcrank in one for all is fuckin funny lol

Nonstop grabs and beat downs
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-31 09:40:05
May 31 2014 09:39 GMT
#1340
all for one yorick, the true cancer match
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
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