In the games I've played vs Braum (I don't own him) it seems like his ult is really hard to aim or really easy dodge. Of course it leaves a big slow, but dodging the knock up seems highly possible.

Still a stupid champ.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

May 22 2014 10:39 GMT

#84

lead with q, then ult them. then when they come down from the knock up they are gonna be pretty much insta stunned.

yes its slow as balls against normal movement people.

Kaneh

Canada737 Posts

May 22 2014 10:41 GMT

#85

I'm actually kinda mad they gutted panth's jump. that's annoying as hell. Even beyond the actual nerf, it just feels all wrong for panth to not just mandrop in and immediately go ham.

739

Bearded Elder29903 Posts

May 22 2014 10:45 GMT

#86

On May 22 2014 19:41 Kaneh wrote:
I'm actually kinda mad they gutted panth's jump. that's annoying as hell. Even beyond the actual nerf, it just feels all wrong for panth to not just mandrop in and immediately go ham.

Pantheon ult feels like this after that crappy fix :

ManDROP

Bulgaria4134 Posts

May 22 2014 12:03 GMT

#87

Which supports are good vs Braum? I would assume harassers/pokers such as karma, lulu, zilean, perhaps morgana. Coz all in supports like thresh, leona annie etc they just lose the trade somehow

Prog

United Kingdom1470 Posts

May 22 2014 12:25 GMT

#88

No support is really good vs Braum overall. Morgana and Karma are fine in lane, but in teamfights Braum is stronger.

Serelitz

Netherlands2895 Posts

May 22 2014 12:34 GMT

#89

Zyra works well in lane vs Braum in my limited 2 games experience.

Prog

United Kingdom1470 Posts

May 22 2014 12:49 GMT

#90

On May 22 2014 21:34 Serelitz wrote:
Zyra works well in lane vs Braum in my limited 2 games experience.

That's true, Zyra falls into the same category as Morgana and Karma. Good for the lane, but worse than Braum later on. The reason for this is different to Morgana and Karma though. Zyra has great teamfight presence, but she has huge problems getting caught and dieing instantly. Morgana and Karma can somewhat safely ward and escape and they forgive some mispositioning, whereas Zyra is dead every time she is in a bad spot. Zyra can be a good pick vs Braum if the opponent has very little assassination in their team.

Bulgaria4134 Posts

May 22 2014 12:53 GMT

#91

I played as Zilean vs Braum, it was only one game to make legit conclusions, but it turned to a free farm for my adc. Nothing Braum can do to threaten Zilean, whenever they want to fight u can easily disengage, you gotta make a big misplay for something to go wrong. Even if the jungle ganks you and even if they take a kill, still when you come back its a free farm. Their jungle has to camp you hard if they want anything else but farming under turret constantly harassed lane.

Figgy

Canada1788 Posts

May 22 2014 13:34 GMT

#92

Wow not only did they completely gut Soraka's laning phase they also made her ability to support god awful. How are you going to lane when you can't infuse their support without going mega oom?

She'll be unplayable in 4.8.

Also poor Pantheon

As if he didn't scale bad enough already they now gutted the only thing that made him worthwhile.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

May 22 2014 13:43 GMT

#93

On May 22 2014 22:34 Figgy wrote:
Wow not only did they completely gut Soraka's laning phase they also made her ability to support god awful. How are you going to lane when you can't infuse their support without going mega oom?

She'll be unplayable in 4.8.

Also poor Pantheon

As if he didn't scale bad enough already they now gutted the only thing that made him worthwhile.

They don't want Soraka in the game. If they could they would remove her but I don't think that would go well with the comunity.

MattBarry

United States4006 Posts

May 22 2014 13:49 GMT

#94

On May 22 2014 22:43 Numy wrote:

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They don't want Soraka in the game. If they could they would remove her but I don't think that would go well with the comunity.

I'm not complaining. Who actually likes Soraka

Serelitz

Netherlands2895 Posts

May 22 2014 13:58 GMT

#95

On May 22 2014 22:49 MattBarry wrote:

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I'm not complaining. Who actually likes Soraka

Someone I know IRL mained Soraka support before she became 'meta', even gifted me the last skin >_>.

So yeah, they're out there I guess.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

May 22 2014 14:06 GMT

#96

On May 22 2014 22:58 Serelitz wrote:

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Someone I know IRL mained Soraka support before she became 'meta', even gifted me the last skin >_>.

So yeah, they're out there I guess.

Should contact the authorities. Got a potential serial killer on the loose.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

May 22 2014 14:10 GMT

#97

His hobbies outside of league include watching paint dry and growing grass.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

May 22 2014 14:17 GMT

#98

Support Zilean seems like a pretty smart idea vs support Braum.

Poke with zero projectiles, and Braum can't really jump to the ADC while a bomb is on either of them.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

May 22 2014 14:18 GMT

#99

I've seen a few Soraka mains actually wreck by being proactive before she became meta (still recent, a few weeks back, she wasn't back in FotM sololanes yet though). Of course the guys who picked her because "oh I have to support? What do I pick then" were invisible and got wrecked themselves.