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On May 02 2014 00:42 kongoline wrote: so i just realized morello often lists shaco as an toxic champion and then they released and remake khazix to his current form ....
You should realize by now a lot of what Riot says and what they do is completely different. Morello(Or was it another Rioter) constantly spoke about how bad design Vlad was with resourceless sustain then they go and release a whole host of resourceless sustain champs over the years(Zac/Rengar). You should not have to rework a champ a little over a year later. That's just terrible game design.
I don't know the reason for this. It could be the different departments in riot really don't interact or have power over each other. Could be all marketing talk just to brainwash the public. Could be one persons opinion being taken as department policy when it's not. Only thing I know is never actually believe what they say until you've seen what they do.
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On May 02 2014 00:59 NpG)Explosive wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 00:56 Nos- wrote:On May 02 2014 00:55 Ketara wrote:On May 01 2014 23:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 01 2014 23:43 RouaF wrote: This game makes no sense. Diamond ranked game, our pick : soraka sona lulu sivir yi, enemy jungler evelyn Evelyn snowballs as fuck ganks everywhere we get trashed like 0-10 while yi is farming the jangle
Suddenly yi comes out with his stacks, we put heals and shields on him and he triples/quadra every fight. We win all fights easily and destroy them. Taiwan diamond/challenger solo queue has seen that comp + variants quite a bit over the past month. I've even seen it with AP Soraka as the bot lane farmer so you can fit in a Lulu mid + a non-support top. What's sad is that the best support for AP Soraka would be support Soraka. Soraka Soraka duo lane would be unstoppable. this is olympic level cancer Did anyone try soraka in all for one?
All for one soraka
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On May 02 2014 00:58 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 00:42 kongoline wrote: so i just realized morello often lists shaco as an toxic champion and then they released and remake khazix to his current form .... Morello has often been cited as a Silver level player. Although his influence over the balance and design team can only be speculation, this nonetheless directly impacts his opinions on the game. People who think Morello has total control of balancing of the game are stupid on the level of complaining about skins because they want a new client.
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On May 02 2014 01:09 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 00:58 xes wrote:On May 02 2014 00:42 kongoline wrote: so i just realized morello often lists shaco as an toxic champion and then they released and remake khazix to his current form .... Morello has often been cited as a Silver level player. Although his influence over the balance and design team can only be speculation, this nonetheless directly impacts his opinions on the game. People who think Morello has total control of balancing of the game are stupid on the level of complaining about skins because they want a new client. "Being a Silver player impacts Morello's opinions of the game" and "Morello has total control of balancing the game" are not equivalent statements?
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On May 02 2014 01:15 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 01:09 Gahlo wrote:On May 02 2014 00:58 xes wrote:On May 02 2014 00:42 kongoline wrote: so i just realized morello often lists shaco as an toxic champion and then they released and remake khazix to his current form .... Morello has often been cited as a Silver level player. Although his influence over the balance and design team can only be speculation, this nonetheless directly impacts his opinions on the game. People who think Morello has total control of balancing of the game are stupid on the level of complaining about skins because they want a new client. "Being a Silver player impacts Morello's opinions of the game" and "Morello has total control of balancing the game" are not equivalent statements? People that harp on Morello for being silver tend to be in the other camp as well.
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On May 02 2014 01:15 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 01:09 Gahlo wrote:On May 02 2014 00:58 xes wrote:On May 02 2014 00:42 kongoline wrote: so i just realized morello often lists shaco as an toxic champion and then they released and remake khazix to his current form .... Morello has often been cited as a Silver level player. Although his influence over the balance and design team can only be speculation, this nonetheless directly impacts his opinions on the game. People who think Morello has total control of balancing of the game are stupid on the level of complaining about skins because they want a new client. "Being a Silver player impacts Morello's opinions of the game" and "Morello has total control of balancing the game" are not equivalent statements?
League balanced for silver players confirmed.
If we can fit Morgana into the Yi comp that'd be kinda silly. Lulu mid, Morgana support and fit in Soraka and Karma bot and top.
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Needs a Nidalee just to increase the cancer.
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You should have morgana + kayle + yi. Yi ults, gets black shield, gets kayle ult. Cant be cc'd, cant break black shield cause of kayle ult, yi kills your whole team.
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On May 02 2014 01:18 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 01:15 xes wrote:On May 02 2014 01:09 Gahlo wrote:On May 02 2014 00:58 xes wrote:On May 02 2014 00:42 kongoline wrote: so i just realized morello often lists shaco as an toxic champion and then they released and remake khazix to his current form .... Morello has often been cited as a Silver level player. Although his influence over the balance and design team can only be speculation, this nonetheless directly impacts his opinions on the game. People who think Morello has total control of balancing of the game are stupid on the level of complaining about skins because they want a new client. "Being a Silver player impacts Morello's opinions of the game" and "Morello has total control of balancing the game" are not equivalent statements? People that harp on Morello for being silver tend to be in the other camp as well.
Morello has often been cited as a Silver level player. Although his influence over the balance and design team can only be speculation, this nonetheless directly impacts his opinions on the game. Gahlo please
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On May 02 2014 01:25 zodde wrote: You should have morgana + kayle + yi. Yi ults, gets black shield, gets kayle ult. Cant be cc'd, cant break black shield cause of kayle ult, yi kills your whole team. The sad thing is that this could actually work l0l.
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On May 02 2014 01:31 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 01:25 zodde wrote: You should have morgana + kayle + yi. Yi ults, gets black shield, gets kayle ult. Cant be cc'd, cant break black shield cause of kayle ult, yi kills your whole team. The sad thing is that this could actually work l0l.
So long as Yi isn't invaded on and has time to farm up his flare and botrk/hydra/whatever its a pretty powerful combination.
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On May 01 2014 23:56 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 23:43 RouaF wrote: This game makes no sense. Diamond ranked game, our pick : soraka sona lulu sivir yi, enemy jungler evelyn Evelyn snowballs as fuck ganks everywhere we get trashed like 0-10 while yi is farming the jangle
Suddenly yi comes out with his stacks, we put heals and shields on him and he triples/quadra every fight. We win all fights easily and destroy them. huh? it just sounds like your team just accidentally found a good strategy (protect the yi) and your enemy didn't counter it properly. if anything this shows that varied power curves still exist and that's a good thing.
Personal opinion: AP Yi had more counterplay in a team fight than feral flare "new" Yi ever will.
Does anyone know if exhaust works on a Highlanding Yi now? I know for the longest time the movespeed/attackspeed stuff was linked, but I vaguely remember there was a patch that fixed that issue for other things? Never really was sure about the % damage reduction either. My guess is no because Yi will eternally be complete bullshit.
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This up and coming "cancer" terminology is sillier than marksman and tank combined.
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On May 02 2014 01:43 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 23:56 thenexusp wrote:On May 01 2014 23:43 RouaF wrote: This game makes no sense. Diamond ranked game, our pick : soraka sona lulu sivir yi, enemy jungler evelyn Evelyn snowballs as fuck ganks everywhere we get trashed like 0-10 while yi is farming the jangle
Suddenly yi comes out with his stacks, we put heals and shields on him and he triples/quadra every fight. We win all fights easily and destroy them. huh? it just sounds like your team just accidentally found a good strategy (protect the yi) and your enemy didn't counter it properly. if anything this shows that varied power curves still exist and that's a good thing. Personal opinion: AP Yi had more counterplay in a team fight than feral flare "new" Yi ever will. Does anyone know if exhaust works on a Highlanding Yi now? I know for the longest time the movespeed/attackspeed stuff was linked, but I vaguely remember there was a patch that fixed that issue for other things? Never really was sure about the % damage reduction either. My guess is no because Yi will eternally be complete bullshit.
I'm under the impression he gets the % damage reduction, but not the movespeed or attackspeed reductions.
Unsure.
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On May 02 2014 01:53 cLutZ wrote: This up and coming "cancer" terminology is sillier than marksman and tank combined. Would you prefer the word "toxic"?
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On May 02 2014 01:54 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 01:53 cLutZ wrote: This up and coming "cancer" terminology is sillier than marksman and tank combined. Would you prefer the word "toxic"?
How about anti fun?
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On May 02 2014 01:43 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 23:56 thenexusp wrote:On May 01 2014 23:43 RouaF wrote: This game makes no sense. Diamond ranked game, our pick : soraka sona lulu sivir yi, enemy jungler evelyn Evelyn snowballs as fuck ganks everywhere we get trashed like 0-10 while yi is farming the jangle
Suddenly yi comes out with his stacks, we put heals and shields on him and he triples/quadra every fight. We win all fights easily and destroy them. huh? it just sounds like your team just accidentally found a good strategy (protect the yi) and your enemy didn't counter it properly. if anything this shows that varied power curves still exist and that's a good thing. Personal opinion: AP Yi had more counterplay in a team fight than feral flare "new" Yi ever will. Does anyone know if exhaust works on a Highlanding Yi now? I know for the longest time the movespeed/attackspeed stuff was linked, but I vaguely remember there was a patch that fixed that issue for other things? Never really was sure about the % damage reduction either. My guess is no because Yi will eternally be complete bullshit. hahahaha, ap yi was way worse than flare yi.
you had to kill him between the wave or he would meditate which at rank 1 would heal him from 1 hp to full, then if he hit you with an alpha strike gg theres half your hp.
i'd rather deal with flare yi than old ap yi any day
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On May 02 2014 02:01 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 01:43 zer0das wrote:On May 01 2014 23:56 thenexusp wrote:On May 01 2014 23:43 RouaF wrote: This game makes no sense. Diamond ranked game, our pick : soraka sona lulu sivir yi, enemy jungler evelyn Evelyn snowballs as fuck ganks everywhere we get trashed like 0-10 while yi is farming the jangle
Suddenly yi comes out with his stacks, we put heals and shields on him and he triples/quadra every fight. We win all fights easily and destroy them. huh? it just sounds like your team just accidentally found a good strategy (protect the yi) and your enemy didn't counter it properly. if anything this shows that varied power curves still exist and that's a good thing. Personal opinion: AP Yi had more counterplay in a team fight than feral flare "new" Yi ever will. Does anyone know if exhaust works on a Highlanding Yi now? I know for the longest time the movespeed/attackspeed stuff was linked, but I vaguely remember there was a patch that fixed that issue for other things? Never really was sure about the % damage reduction either. My guess is no because Yi will eternally be complete bullshit. hahahaha, ap yi was way worse than flare yi. you had to kill him between the wave or he would meditate which at rank 1 would heal him from 1 hp to full, then if he hit you with an alpha strike gg theres half your hp. i'd rather deal with flare yi than old ap yi any day Yeah, but at least AP Yi was just annoying to lane against and not completely unstoppable after 40 minutes.
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Both are pretty much the same.You just need the right team/items to stop them or they will penta your team a few times until you alt/f4.
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