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Baa?21242 Posts
On May 02 2014 03:27 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Exactly. People too quick to assume Diamond sucks just because his lanes suck.
You really think Diamond is better than Spirit, Dandy, Kakao, Watch, Insec, Bengi, Dadydream, hell even shitlords like Clearlove and bigpomelo at this point?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On May 02 2014 03:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 03:25 Fusilero wrote:On May 02 2014 03:24 wei2coolman wrote: Diamond still probably redeemable on the team, similar to how Zion was for Shiphtur. But let's be honest, he deserves better.
Alex+shiphtur super team incoming, Alex/Shiphtur/Uzi/Chawy/styz. Team our team sucks That's the true struggle team right there. Except they'd all want to play Mid/ADC and take farm lomo. Alex Top Uzi Mid Shiphtur Jungle Styz ADC Chawy Support ?? From what I've heard chawy may also be swapping into TPA with jay so he could support. I think that diamond is good and is better than hulberto, alexg1ven in pyjamas can have him in the puszu role for summer split until k0u is 17
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On May 02 2014 03:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 03:27 BrownBear wrote:On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Exactly. People too quick to assume Diamond sucks just because his lanes suck. You really think Diamond is better than Spirit, Dandy, Kakao, Watch, Insec, Bengi, Dadydream, hell even shitlords like Clearlove and bigpomelo at this point?
Junglers look better when they have a good supporting cast. Diamond on a world-class team wuld roll half those shitters.
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On May 02 2014 03:31 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 03:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 02 2014 03:27 BrownBear wrote:On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Exactly. People too quick to assume Diamond sucks just because his lanes suck. You really think Diamond is better than Spirit, Dandy, Kakao, Watch, Insec, Bengi, Dadydream, hell even shitlords like Clearlove and bigpomelo at this point? Junglers look better when they have a good supporting cast. Diamond on a world-class team wuld roll half those shitters. wut. Diamond looks good when he tries something out and it happens to work, and then he's ahead of the curve for like a week, then every good jungler picks it up, and diamond looks mediocre again.
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On May 02 2014 03:35 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 03:31 BrownBear wrote:On May 02 2014 03:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 02 2014 03:27 BrownBear wrote:On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Exactly. People too quick to assume Diamond sucks just because his lanes suck. You really think Diamond is better than Spirit, Dandy, Kakao, Watch, Insec, Bengi, Dadydream, hell even shitlords like Clearlove and bigpomelo at this point? Junglers look better when they have a good supporting cast. Diamond on a world-class team wuld roll half those shitters. wut. Diamond looks good when he tries something out and it happens to work, and then he's ahead of the curve for like a week, then every good jungler picks it up, and diamond looks mediocre again.
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/over-valued-or-under-valued-follow-up-an-analysis-of-player-s-performance-in-european-lcs/1100-1242/
Look at Diamond's stats. And that's while he spent half his games trying to prop up a weedlord amd two sumo wrestlers.
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congrats, you're comparing diamond with EU jungler. lol.
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Stats only tell half the story. If you think Diamond is better than everyone Cheep pointed out + Dexter, Meteos, Amazing, Svenskeren and k0u - that's your right
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On May 02 2014 02:21 Ketara wrote: AP Yi was also completely unstoppable after 40 minutes, don't kid yourself. Oh please. He was a gimmick champ at best. In ARAM he was ridiculous but if you're really comparing AP Yi to Flare Yi you're joking.
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On May 02 2014 03:42 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 03:35 wei2coolman wrote:On May 02 2014 03:31 BrownBear wrote:On May 02 2014 03:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 02 2014 03:27 BrownBear wrote:On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Exactly. People too quick to assume Diamond sucks just because his lanes suck. You really think Diamond is better than Spirit, Dandy, Kakao, Watch, Insec, Bengi, Dadydream, hell even shitlords like Clearlove and bigpomelo at this point? Junglers look better when they have a good supporting cast. Diamond on a world-class team wuld roll half those shitters. wut. Diamond looks good when he tries something out and it happens to work, and then he's ahead of the curve for like a week, then every good jungler picks it up, and diamond looks mediocre again. http://www.ongamers.com/articles/over-valued-or-under-valued-follow-up-an-analysis-of-player-s-performance-in-european-lcs/1100-1242/Look at Diamond's stats. And that's while he spent half his games trying to prop up a weedlord amd two sumo wrestlers. Please tell me you're joking when you link to that "analysis."
You can construct metrics and explain them in whatever way you want. kev1n is off the charts there, but kev1n also is a massive pussy and doesn't die for his team when he should, valuing his KDA over his team actually winning.
Diamondprox loses his will to live and leaves his lanes to hang out and dry while he cries in a corner, which also means an improve in KDA over the average when his team is losing.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Diamondprox was considered a living legend a couple of years ago because of his style of play and the innovation he brought. Everyone, even Koreans looked to his jungle picks, mimicked his jungling style. That's why Koreans recognize Diamond as one of the best junglers in the world. It's solely because he was the one that was ahead of everyone else in terms of gameplay and picks.
Now, everyone basically copies each other and tries to play the same style. Is he a bad jungler? No, but he's certainly not one of the best junglers anymore. There are newer players who farm more efficiently, have better mechanics, teamfight better, etc.
That's not to discredit his achievements, but he simply isn't the best of the best anymore. Anyone who still thinks that is highly delusional and still thinking about the days in which M5 Diamondprox raped TSM TheOddOne in the jungle in every IEM match.
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Diamond still innovates from time to time though. I'm quite sure he was the first one to go hexdrinker evelyn and the general "standard" evelyn build of now originates mostly from him. Gambit is just not the same because edward used to be a support god and now I'm not even sure I'd rank him in the top5 supports in europe.
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On May 02 2014 04:31 krndandaman wrote: who is seraph? people are saying clg seraph is very likely but i dont even know who the guy is I think he's a KT sub? He must have played 1 game in OGN at some point I remember that name
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On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Genja is the guy who goes completely downie builds and then does no damage because of it right? like the legendary 4 dorans blade manamune varus?
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On May 02 2014 04:42 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 04:31 krndandaman wrote: who is seraph? people are saying clg seraph is very likely but i dont even know who the guy is I think he's a KT sub? He must have played 1 game in OGN at some point I remember that name He used to be a sub for Shield. Lurks around here a bit.
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On May 02 2014 04:43 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Genja is the guy who goes completely downie builds and then does no damage because of it right? like the legendary 4 dorans blade manamune varus? it's 3 dblades man come on what is this amateur hour? what kind of person builds FOUR dblades
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
yeah srsly that's almost as ludicrous as building a Last Whisper.
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I've been extensively testing AD Kat, 2 bt into void into like bveil and maybe another bt/hydra. Makes you a monster duelist and it's just fun as fuck. I definitely recommend toying with it, the ult ratio means with bt stacking, it'll do more damage than AP kat could ever dream of
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On May 02 2014 04:48 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 04:43 arb wrote:On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Genja is the guy who goes completely downie builds and then does no damage because of it right? like the legendary 4 dorans blade manamune varus? it's 3 dblades man come on what is this amateur hour? what kind of person builds FOUR dblades
four dblades, manamune and zephyr seems like a strong varus build
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On May 02 2014 04:48 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 04:43 arb wrote:On May 02 2014 03:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: tbh I hope Diamond joins the superteam v.2 as well.
Perpetually high Darien ( he at least plays like it) and sumo wrestler botlane. genja is like an autustic savant with large stretches of idiocy peppered with brief flashes of brillance edward is a not top support in eu anymore and wants the throne of being fb'd. Genja is the guy who goes completely downie builds and then does no damage because of it right? like the legendary 4 dorans blade manamune varus? it's 3 dblades man come on what is this amateur hour? what kind of person builds FOUR dblades
ryan choi 5 dblade rengar best build NA
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