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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 04 2014 03:53 GMT
#341
On April 04 2014 10:06 Ketara wrote:
Just think, 12 hours ago people were saying it wasn't going to be any good.

Seriously. I have the biggest urge to drop an "I told you so," but I know it's going to be countered with the "broken clock is right twice a day" arguement then I'm going to say Ryze.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 04 2014 04:02 GMT
#342
So for most runes should it just be whatever quints you want, AD/AP/Hybrid Pen reds, Scaling Armor or HP Yellow, and Scaling MR or Scaling CDR blues, barring a specific page for a specific champ or set of champs?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 04 2014 04:31 GMT
#343
On April 04 2014 13:02 Kinie wrote:
So for most runes should it just be whatever quints you want, AD/AP/Hybrid Pen reds, Scaling Armor or HP Yellow, and Scaling MR or Scaling CDR blues, barring a specific page for a specific champ or set of champs?

Blindly, flat on the agressive matchups and scaling on the outscaling ones.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 04 2014 04:48 GMT
#344
On April 04 2014 12:53 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 10:06 Ketara wrote:
Just think, 12 hours ago people were saying it wasn't going to be any good.

Seriously. I have the biggest urge to drop an "I told you so," but I know it's going to be countered with the "broken clock is right twice a day" arguement then I'm going to say Ryze.


Well, I semi-predicted mid lulu and then predicted that mid nami would happen before mid soraka.

...and that's why when you win your first ranked game you retire for the season.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 04 2014 04:50 GMT
#345
feral flare so silly; played a bot game, team was poor and I jungled very heavily with ww, so it got to 50 minute mark.
By that point, between ww passive, mostly feral flare, and spirit visage, i was gaining 200 life/hit.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 04 2014 05:14 GMT
#346
sword of the occult stacking so silly; played a bot game, team was very noob and I ksed all kills heavily with cait, so it got to 50 minute mark.
By that point, between crit passive, mostly 5 sword of the occults, and infinity edge, i was hitting for a lot.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 04 2014 05:16 GMT
#347
For those that heard about Flare's ward range but haven't messed with it yet:
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
April 04 2014 05:23 GMT
#348
On April 04 2014 14:16 Gahlo wrote:
For those that heard about Flare's ward range but haven't messed with it yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvXkgOpk-VI

How do you put ward past the wall?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 04 2014 05:26 GMT
#349
Does anybody else hate spending Ip on runes?

And i mean HATE

Spending it on champions feels nice. You get to learn how a a champion fits into different roles, try out different roles and match ups and builds. It's interesting and gives you a reason to play. But runes always feel like picking the optimal thing to allow you to play your role. They are necessary but boring. I wish that riot would make them an awful lot cheaper instead of leaving the cost so high because they don't wish to annoy people that have spent so much on them already.

I only buy champions with IP and I have spent a good 1000 hours on LoL but I and don't even have half of the champions. I have spent as little as possible on runes and having to spend thousands more because the optimal setup has changed just kinda pisses me off.

I dont really care about not having all of the champions but the amount of time investment to get a decent champion pool let alone all of them is borderline retarded, and having expensive runes that HAVE to be bought is a disgrace since it makes getting there so much harder.

This rune "balance" and sale feels like they recognized a problem with the rune system - you buy a small number of optimized pages because they are necessary and don't want to waste any more time getting runes than you have to. However instead of trying to fix it they decided to change things just a little bit and cash in on people needing the new "optimal" and being forced to buy new setups. It's disgusting.
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
April 04 2014 05:39 GMT
#350
On April 04 2014 14:26 layabout wrote:
Does anybody else hate spending Ip on runes?

And i mean HATE

Spending it on champions feels nice. You get to learn how a a champion fits into different roles, try out different roles and match ups and builds. It's interesting and gives you a reason to play. But runes always feel like picking the optimal thing to allow you to play your role. They are necessary but boring. I wish that riot would make them an awful lot cheaper instead of leaving the cost so high because they don't wish to annoy people that have spent so much on them already.

I only buy champions with IP and I have spent a good 1000 hours on LoL but I and don't even have half of the champions. I have spent as little as possible on runes and having to spend thousands more because the optimal setup has changed just kinda pisses me off.

I dont really care about not having all of the champions but the amount of time investment to get a decent champion pool let alone all of them is borderline retarded, and having expensive runes that HAVE to be bought is a disgrace since it makes getting there so much harder.

This rune "balance" and sale feels like they recognized a problem with the rune system - you buy a small number of optimized pages because they are necessary and don't want to waste any more time getting runes than you have to. However instead of trying to fix it they decided to change things just a little bit and cash in on people needing the new "optimal" and being forced to buy new setups. It's disgusting.

Honestly I love spending IP on runes. I think the reason why I like it so much is because it really lets you fine tune your champions. And while I know that there are certainly optimal rune set ups for champions, I like buying different runes just for the sake of experimentation.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Pokemonxoxo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States217 Posts
April 04 2014 05:48 GMT
#351
On April 04 2014 14:26 layabout wrote:
Does anybody else hate spending Ip on runes?

And i mean HATE

Spending it on champions feels nice. You get to learn how a a champion fits into different roles, try out different roles and match ups and builds. It's interesting and gives you a reason to play. But runes always feel like picking the optimal thing to allow you to play your role. They are necessary but boring. I wish that riot would make them an awful lot cheaper instead of leaving the cost so high because they don't wish to annoy people that have spent so much on them already.

I only buy champions with IP and I have spent a good 1000 hours on LoL but I and don't even have half of the champions. I have spent as little as possible on runes and having to spend thousands more because the optimal setup has changed just kinda pisses me off.

I dont really care about not having all of the champions but the amount of time investment to get a decent champion pool let alone all of them is borderline retarded, and having expensive runes that HAVE to be bought is a disgrace since it makes getting there so much harder.

This rune "balance" and sale feels like they recognized a problem with the rune system - you buy a small number of optimized pages because they are necessary and don't want to waste any more time getting runes than you have to. However instead of trying to fix it they decided to change things just a little bit and cash in on people needing the new "optimal" and being forced to buy new setups. It's disgusting.


I absolutely agree with you. I had to spend like 12000~ ip just to change my runes. I seriously just don't understand why runes can't be like masteries? Let it be free so that people can just change it at any time. Why do anyone have to grind out games just to be able to play the game competitively. That doesn't make any sense.
Within and Without
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 05:53:42
April 04 2014 05:51 GMT
#352
On April 04 2014 14:26 layabout wrote:
Does anybody else hate spending Ip on runes?

And i mean HATE

Spending it on champions feels nice. You get to learn how a a champion fits into different roles, try out different roles and match ups and builds. It's interesting and gives you a reason to play. But runes always feel like picking the optimal thing to allow you to play your role. They are necessary but boring. I wish that riot would make them an awful lot cheaper instead of leaving the cost so high because they don't wish to annoy people that have spent so much on them already.

I only buy champions with IP and I have spent a good 1000 hours on LoL but I and don't even have half of the champions. I have spent as little as possible on runes and having to spend thousands more because the optimal setup has changed just kinda pisses me off.

I dont really care about not having all of the champions but the amount of time investment to get a decent champion pool let alone all of them is borderline retarded, and having expensive runes that HAVE to be bought is a disgrace since it makes getting there so much harder.

This rune "balance" and sale feels like they recognized a problem with the rune system - you buy a small number of optimized pages because they are necessary and don't want to waste any more time getting runes than you have to. However instead of trying to fix it they decided to change things just a little bit and cash in on people needing the new "optimal" and being forced to buy new setups. It's disgusting.

The whole point of runes/runepages costing so much IP is to make people want to jump on the 7page bundle, the 2:1 page sales, and RP for champions. If they were super cheap the business model wouldn't work.

The issue with these balance changes is that it's just a bandaid on a very broken system. Masteries get improved every season, while runes are just getting spotfixes over and over but not fast enough to stop the boat from sinking or bailing out the water.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 04 2014 05:52 GMT
#353
why spend your hard earned hours of grinded ip when you could spend just a few dollars of your wallets dollars or currency of your nationality
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
April 04 2014 05:52 GMT
#354
Ran into turtle in normals >_> right when I need my wotd. ㅠ_ㅠ
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 04 2014 05:54 GMT
#355
On April 04 2014 14:52 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
Ran into turtle in normals >_> right when I need my wotd. ㅠ_ㅠ

Doesn't matter, played with turtle.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 04 2014 05:57 GMT
#356
On April 04 2014 14:48 Pokemonxoxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 14:26 layabout wrote:
Does anybody else hate spending Ip on runes?

And i mean HATE

Spending it on champions feels nice. You get to learn how a a champion fits into different roles, try out different roles and match ups and builds. It's interesting and gives you a reason to play. But runes always feel like picking the optimal thing to allow you to play your role. They are necessary but boring. I wish that riot would make them an awful lot cheaper instead of leaving the cost so high because they don't wish to annoy people that have spent so much on them already.

I only buy champions with IP and I have spent a good 1000 hours on LoL but I and don't even have half of the champions. I have spent as little as possible on runes and having to spend thousands more because the optimal setup has changed just kinda pisses me off.

I dont really care about not having all of the champions but the amount of time investment to get a decent champion pool let alone all of them is borderline retarded, and having expensive runes that HAVE to be bought is a disgrace since it makes getting there so much harder.

This rune "balance" and sale feels like they recognized a problem with the rune system - you buy a small number of optimized pages because they are necessary and don't want to waste any more time getting runes than you have to. However instead of trying to fix it they decided to change things just a little bit and cash in on people needing the new "optimal" and being forced to buy new setups. It's disgusting.


I absolutely agree with you. I had to spend like 12000~ ip just to change my runes. I seriously just don't understand why runes can't be like masteries? Let it be free so that people can just change it at any time. Why do anyone have to grind out games just to be able to play the game competitively. That doesn't make any sense.


You don't have to grind out games to play competitively. You have to grind out games if you want to own tons of stuff without spending money on the game.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 06:00:37
April 04 2014 05:59 GMT
#357
Case in point I saw a diamond anivia player's profile with just 2 rune pages filled with the most generic and cheap (T3) runes possible.

Optimal/niche runes are really fun to customize and all but they have nothing to do with being a good player and owning solo queue's face.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 04 2014 06:11 GMT
#358
On April 04 2014 14:14 FinestHour wrote:
sword of the occult stacking so silly; played a bot game, team was very noob and I ksed all kills heavily with cait, so it got to 50 minute mark.
By that point, between crit passive, mostly 5 sword of the occults, and infinity edge, i was hitting for a lot.


except it's a unique passive brah
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 04 2014 06:26 GMT
#359
POINT being anything is silly in le bot game huehueheuheue
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 04 2014 06:31 GMT
#360
ok, so what are the best like generic rune pages? I'm playing on a smurf so I don't have much ip, so I can't just buy a shit ton of different seals. Scaling armor, flat armor or flat hp, which is better all around?
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