EPTIf a player calls another player a faggot (regardless of who it is or where or circumstances), you shouldn't be dismissing it as "normal"
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
If a player calls another player a faggot (regardless of who it is or where or circumstances), you shouldn't be dismissing it as "normal" | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 23 2014 02:30 Ketara wrote: Again, difference between normal and should be normal weibo. If a player calls another player a faggot (regardless of who it is or where or circumstances), you shouldn't be dismissing it as "normal" You would have to be pretty fucking naive to think "faggot" isn't a normal term that's thrown around in conversation between friends. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 23 2014 02:38 Ketara wrote: I am not sure how many times I would have to say "difference between normal and should be normal" to continue this conversation, so I'll just stop here with the third one. Just like it should be normal to ban smurfs right? Imp was having a "private" conversation with a friend. God forbid someone leaks out everything you've said in confidant to your friends. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Because a quick google search tells me that the real world disagrees with you. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
On February 23 2014 02:30 Ketara wrote: Again, difference between normal and should be normal weibo. If a player calls another player a faggot (regardless of who it is or where or circumstances), you shouldn't be dismissing it as "normal" theres absolutely nothing wrong with saying faggot or calling someone a faggot words arent evil or wrong or bad, its all about context if you steal blue buff from your friend in a game and say "lol get rekt faggot" that's not the same as harassing a gay person unless that gay person is a friend who stole your blue buff | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I always hated how somone who hacked into his personal information and posted it publically was the victim compared to the person who was talking to 2-3 friends privately but welcome to the 2000s baby where we pretend to be liberal but are so uptight it hurts. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
the fact that he's personally attacking the other guy is what should be noticed, but if its a private conversation there's nothing wrong with this sort of thing as long as it doesn't get leaked didn't destiny leak his girlfriends nudes or something i think thats far from trash talking about things around your friends | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 23 2014 02:41 Ketara wrote: Are you really trying to argue that a professional player in a sports league shouldn't be fined for saying the word faggot? Because a quick google search tells me that the real world disagrees with you. Saying it in professional game/setting, and saying it in private are 2 completely different things. there's no way in fucking hell there's going to be a headline if someone said "HEY THIS GUY USED THE WORD FAGGOT IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WE HAD" | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
people don't give a shit about context. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 23 2014 02:47 Slayer91 wrote: with the case of professional players getting fined for things like that, in general its pretty ridiculous in games where players are constantly shouting things at each other to make the other players mad, you can understand that given they are role models of some sort, people WILL misinterpret and take things the wrong way the fact that he's personally attacking the other guy is what should be noticed, but if its a private conversation there's nothing wrong with this sort of thing as long as it doesn't get leaked didn't destiny leak his girlfriends nudes or something i think thats far from trash talking about things around your friends You're thinking about XJ9 when it comes to leaking nudes. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On February 23 2014 02:47 Slayer91 wrote: with the case of professional players getting fined for things like that, in general its pretty ridiculous in games where players are constantly shouting things at each other to make the other players mad, you can understand that given they are role models of some sort, people WILL misinterpret and take things the wrong way the fact that he's personally attacking the other guy is what should be noticed, but if its a private conversation there's nothing wrong with this sort of thing as long as it doesn't get leaked didn't destiny leak his girlfriends nudes or something i think thats far from trash talking about things around your friends leak is a strong word for sending to 2 friends but it applies here, because he thought he was in a private conversation with people he trusted, and it backfired on him (imo unfairly but opinions will vary) | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
There's a very good argument to be made that this isn't fair and people who are in positions as role models like a professional athelete shouldn't have to step on eggshells in their private lives etc. But regardless of how good an argument it is, it's pretty disjoined from reality at this point. If somebody posts a picture of it on the internet, it's not private anymore. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
What are people starting/building first on squishable pokey supports (Karma/Lulu/Zyra/Nami etc) these days? | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
and I used the word f** in the sentence where Imp describes Piglet. The word there is merely a random derogatory term (Just like bast**/bit* /ret**) and not a homophobic statement. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
On February 23 2014 02:56 Haiq343 wrote: You all cannot seriously be arguing that because homophobic norms among gaming culture are common that it is "OK". That's just going to go down the rabbit hole of privilege and ignorance w/r/t minorities. It does matter yo, either your language and unconscious (I hope) behaviors are perpetuating and reinforcing negative stereotypes, or you are opposed to them. There's not a morally defensible benign apathy position here folks. Remember that gender discussion that came up a while ago? TS folks in the U.S. have an attempted suicide rate of 41% which is terrifyingly high[Source]. That's not coincidental to the society they find themselves in. So let's not even have that "argument". What are people starting/building first on squishable pokey supports (Karma/Lulu/Zyra/Nami etc) these days? the word faggot when used on the internet is far from homophobic homophobic people using the word faggot isn't a problem homophobic people are the problem there is some overlap when abused LGBT community see the word faggot used a lot online when they were abused by it and maybe that's an okay reason why people shouldn't use it are you really arguing that people using a word somehow prepetuates homophobia? TS people attemped suicide rates being so high is proboably a lot to do with people not being accepting of them and trying to force gender on people its retarded to think that he COD kids are causing the problem, and not ignorant and paranoid people who think gays are indoctrinating children and that homosexuality is a disease On February 23 2014 02:52 Ketara wrote: Thing is wei, once somebody posts the text of your private internet conversation in public, it's no longer a private conversation, it's a public conversation. That's just a sad truth of living in the 21st century, privacy is dead. There's a very good argument to be made that this isn't fair and people who are in positions as role models like a professional athelete shouldn't have to step on eggshells in their private lives etc. But regardless of how good an argument it is, it's pretty disjoined from reality at this point. If somebody posts a picture of it on the internet, it's not private anymore. its kinda sad though its like the way clinton got fucked ove because he cheated on his wife like cheating on your wife isnt even illegal it just should be the end of that relationship if B.Clinton being president would save even one life over G.Bush shouldn't we prefer bill clinton? its just that we don't give a shit about the people in wartorn countries dying because we don't live there, it doesn't affect us, while having a president cheating on his wife might be a poor rolemodel to everyone in america, and that scares everyone a lot more. | ||
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ghrur
United States3787 Posts
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