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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
February 06 2014 18:23 GMT
#3981
What happens when you afk during champion selection? Cause I had to afk for 2 minutes and when I was back I got dropped from game for not picking champion and I can't remember how many points I had. Did I just get free - points ?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
February 06 2014 18:24 GMT
#3982
On February 07 2014 03:17 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 02:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2014 02:24 Yezzus wrote:
On February 07 2014 02:20 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2014 02:09 Yezzus wrote:
On February 07 2014 02:02 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Who do you think is the strongest champion in the game, relative to their alternatives in that role?

So I mean, yeah, Gragas is super strong, but how far ahead of Yasuo/Kayle/Ziggs/Kassadin/etc. is he? I think you could argue that the strongest champion under that definition might be Thresh.

Lol what? Can thresh 1v3-4 champs like yasio or Grag or kass can whn ahead? No.... Thresh is great yes but not the "best"

this guy.
strong kit has nothing to do with ability to carry.

Elise is probably one of those champions where she's THE BEST, out of all the possible jungle choices.

What? Elise is the best because she had a STRONG kit..... Kit has a lot do do with carrying ... Thresh and Leona can carry due to their kits compared to other supports

You literally just complained that Thresh can't 1v3, therefore he's not "best". But that kind of kit that has some of the strongest utility is pretty bonkers broken, despite whether or not he deals damage.
If you could create a champion that does 0 damage, but only ability was to heal teammates for like 1000 health, on a 1 second cool down, it would be beyond broken, and easily the best champion in the game, despite being unable to fight 1v3.


You don't think they could 1v3 with a sunfire cape + self heal until the end of time, maybe with a spirit visage?

Actually, this sounds like an oddly familiar position...

It's a team mate heal - unable to be cast on oneself
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 06 2014 18:36 GMT
#3983
Maybe his other spell is Zombie like in final fantasy
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2014 18:38 GMT
#3984
Silver III. Dang, I thought I'd be lower considering the 3-7 and the s3 standing of people in my games.
...
But if all these people I played against are roughly Silver III, holy hell are they utter trash compared to what I saw when I was ~Silver II in s2. Oo
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
February 06 2014 18:40 GMT
#3985
On February 07 2014 02:26 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 02:07 Yezzus wrote:
On February 07 2014 02:05 Alaric wrote:
So... when there are too many "good/OP" champions that you can't ban every single one of them... don't you think that's a good thing for the game? More champions at the top tier, less out of line broken stuff. Now if Riot would switch to tiny nerfs to these, and instead buffing those we never see some more, I'd rather have them follow this balancing reasoning, but that's not how they work so they'll just try to tone down anything popular.

There shouldn't be a champ in the game that can go even or beat everyone in lane like gragas

Pantheon was pretty close to that at some point. Was he goddamn friggin' OP? Nope, because he isn't godly post-laning so he's got issues there.

Same with Renekton before Riot destroyed a bunch of other offlaners till not that many of them can actually stand up to him even post-laning.


I don't think there's ever been a point where Pantheon didn't get crushed by Cho'Gath, Malphite, Yorick, Udyr, Singed, Shen and Nunu. These champions have all gone in and out of favor but they've always had winning match-ups vs Pantheon.
I am the Town Medic.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2014 18:48 GMT
#3986
Cho'Gath and Singed he could beat. It would require an early all-in and it wouldn't be easy (it would probably be an automatic loss if they took TP too) but it's doable because Pantheon snowballs hard. Obviously he'd get outscaled at some point though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 18:53:44
February 06 2014 18:52 GMT
#3987
On February 07 2014 03:48 Alaric wrote:
Cho'Gath and Singed he could beat. It would require an early all-in and it wouldn't be easy (it would probably be an automatic loss if they took TP too) but it's doable because Pantheon snowballs hard. Obviously he'd get outscaled at some point though.


Yeah Singed is borderline, he can fall behind and get screwed. Disagree with Cho though, unless you can first blood him he's going to render you obsolete after first back...

Pantheon is so damn fun though, I should play him more. Fucking crocodiles.
I am the Town Medic.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 06 2014 19:03 GMT
#3988
so u play panth and whine on renek ? oh the irony
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 19:03:52
February 06 2014 19:03 GMT
#3989
wrong thread
Carrilord has arrived.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 19:17:15
February 06 2014 19:06 GMT
#3990
On February 07 2014 03:36 Nos- wrote:
Maybe his other spell is Zombie like in final fantasy


Oo that could be really cool, a spell that makes all of a champs healing hurt them instead for a short time. So regen becomes like a DoT, life steal/spellvamp backfire, and any ally/self heals nuke them. That may be OP against some champs, but probably too situational especially if it was an ultimate. Great for a counter pick champion though.

As far as champions that are clearly the best in their role, I would say Jinx for adc, decent early game, great mid-game, great-late game and a passive that acts almost like a reset allowing for multikill potential.
I got nothin'...
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
February 06 2014 19:07 GMT
#3991
On February 07 2014 04:03 kongoline wrote:
so u play panth and whine on renek ? oh the irony


No I don't play Pantheon, I wish I did.

Not sure of the irony. Pantheon is a high-risk high-reward champion that can destroy champions who don't deserve to be in top lane but also loses hard to a bunch of beefies. Renekton is just a facerolling hunk of meat and damage.
I am the Town Medic.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 19:24:23
February 06 2014 19:24 GMT
#3992
On February 07 2014 01:54 cLutZ wrote:
I can't believe people don't like Gragas. He is like the coolest melle champion in the game.


oh my god, he is still doing it
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2014 19:29 GMT
#3993
Geez, I just want a quick game between 2 LCS matches since I don't care about the interviewee... 4 dodges in a row. ~_~ Stahp, people.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 06 2014 19:32 GMT
#3994
On February 07 2014 04:29 Alaric wrote:
Geez, I just want a quick game between 2 LCS matches since I don't care about the interviewee... 4 dodges in a row. ~_~ Stahp, people.


Every time you want a "quick" game you get the ones that take >50 minutes.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
February 06 2014 19:34 GMT
#3995
On February 07 2014 04:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 04:29 Alaric wrote:
Geez, I just want a quick game between 2 LCS matches since I don't care about the interviewee... 4 dodges in a row. ~_~ Stahp, people.


Every time you want a "quick" game you get the ones that take >50 minutes.

I once told myself "I've got an hour before I have to leave for work... That's enough time to get in one game"

LOLOLOLOLOL. no
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 06 2014 19:36 GMT
#3996
On February 07 2014 04:34 ArchAngelSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 04:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:29 Alaric wrote:
Geez, I just want a quick game between 2 LCS matches since I don't care about the interviewee... 4 dodges in a row. ~_~ Stahp, people.


Every time you want a "quick" game you get the ones that take >50 minutes.

I once told myself "I've got an hour before I have to leave for work... That's enough time to get in one game"

LOLOLOLOLOL. no


Whenever I want to play a LoL game as a last bit of procrastination before getting something done, it's a terrible game that makes me feel like crap and want to play more.

Unfair.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 06 2014 19:54 GMT
#3997
On February 07 2014 04:24 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 01:54 cLutZ wrote:
I can't believe people don't like Gragas. He is like the coolest melle champion in the game.


oh my god, he is still doing it

NVM, I forgot about Jarvan IV
Freeeeeeedom
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 06 2014 19:59 GMT
#3998
On February 07 2014 03:38 Alaric wrote:
Silver III. Dang, I thought I'd be lower considering the 3-7 and the s3 standing of people in my games.
...
But if all these people I played against are roughly Silver III, holy hell are they utter trash compared to what I saw when I was ~Silver II in s2. Oo

I'm 2-2 so far and not liking my chances. Which is why I'm only playing one per day so I don't stress too much.
It's your boy Guzma!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 06 2014 20:17 GMT
#3999
Not sure if this has been posted:

http://na.lolesports.com/articles/power-rankings-week-4

Opinions? These are such unbelievable jimmy rustlers, even more than power rankings usually are already.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2014 20:18 GMT
#4000
I've been tired all week and I just took Teut to his word when he said "don't give a fuck" and yolo'd them, I knew it was going to be utterly terrible on my part so eh.
Plus it's a good idea, there's been some idiots ranting and whining about the Elo system and how you can't carry (one of them even pretends that what you can use to climb back easily is 100% useless once you're "back to your true level" because people aren't bad anymore, so analysing your mistakes and trying to improve is pointless), so I placed myself back where I started in season 3, I'm gonna climb back at my rythm and shove it under their noses once I'm back up to Gold (no way I can get back to Plat with my current level).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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