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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 27 2014 21:10 GMT
#2341
On January 28 2014 06:03 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:57 Frudgey wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
My thoughts on Renekton:
Renekton is a big lane bully. Not the pinnacle but he's up there. He has strong early game but people have the impression that he drops off late game and I agree to a degree. Vs croc, your options are to pick someone who's an even bigger early lane bully (Garen/Darius) or someone who doesn't get dumpstered by Renekton in lane, slightly weaker early but much stronger with equal/more items at late game. Dyrus actually talked about this yesterday on stream about how he'd take a 6 item AP Nidalee over 6 item Renekton any day. The issue is as Renekton is to push your advantage early and stay ahead. 6 item Renek is obv going to shit on 4 item Nid.

Teemo, bad idea. Renekton is your quinetessial AD caster. By level 4-5, he can dash in and enrage Q in your face to deal more damage and heal. In general, gap closers in top lane hurts Teemo considerably.
Vlad, doable. Be the aggro at level 1, push the lane early and hit level 2 and 3 first. Avoid positioning yourself in the creep like where you can get double dashed to. Defensive when lane is pushed into you. Play aggro when you have the creep wave. If croc is dumb enough to dash in when you have the wave on your side, fight. Force him to eat more minion damage can he can trade out.

Who would you call the pinnacle of lane bullies? I mean of course it will vary from match up to match up, but are there some champions that you'd classify as the biggest lane bullies?

Because I always assumed that Renekton was best lane bullies out there.

I'd call yorick the "pinnacle of lane bullies" most match ups amount to crying until the pain is over and you win because that's a yorick.

Unless enemy team has a hypercarry. In which case...
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
January 27 2014 21:11 GMT
#2342
top nunu is a great lane bully. I might have to pick him back up and see how spell weaving etc affected him
lega
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 21:36:46
January 27 2014 21:28 GMT
#2343
Anyway, mid lane lulu is surprisingly viable right now. I tried her a bunch of times these days and found her way better than I expect.
Pro;
very strong and safe in lane(you have a shield, enhanced autos and a cheap waveclear. you eq combo is an almost guaranteed harassing. )
strong roaming (w is a one point wonder, and your ult can turn the tide of any early skirmish.)
good against mobile assassins (you can both handle them in lane and out-roam them. Your cc and ult hurt them hard in team fight. )
decent utilities and pokes in team fight even if you are behind ( which is the reason when she is mainly used as a support.)
godlike kiting
very cute

Con
lack burst damage, not easy to get an 1v1 kill unless your opponent underestimates you.
damage falls off at late game even with lichbane. no insta-kill wonder. You need either toplane or jungler providing extra damage.
cdr blue is too expensive....


I am not a good player (S1 before reset) and the number of mine games on her is not high enough, so I might be wrong here. But I am seriously considering continuing spamming her in soloq as long as my teammates are not flaming me.
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
January 27 2014 21:50 GMT
#2344
Lulu is used quite often as a mid in high-elo Korean games FYI.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 27 2014 21:52 GMT
#2345
I thought mid lulu was only a very recent thing in korea
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 22:40:40
January 27 2014 21:56 GMT
#2346
I've been putting it off for too long, gotta work on my Lee Sin mechanics, specifically from a jungler role.

Edit: first game in normals with him (mainly to learn/relearn his mechanics) and go 5/5/30, basically full build too (Golem/Randuins/Sunfire/BV/Sightstone/Mobi Boots). Definitely need to work on him a bit more, but this first attempt was good. Camped mid to feed ally Riven vs Yasuo, and would just fly around in team fights shielding and kicking people in the face.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 27 2014 22:05 GMT
#2347
Read pro as poro, which is also a plus. Nothing quite like making enemies into poros.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 22:08:42
January 27 2014 22:06 GMT
#2348
I played top lulu for fun in S3, pub stomped hard but in S4 those hyper tanks made the little yordle cry. I never really tried her mid but I'll give it a go if I get the chance.
On January 28 2014 06:52 Nos- wrote:
I thought mid lulu was only a very recent thing in korea

Well pawn tried it vs SKT, he once traded 1 for 1 with faker's orianna so uhh.... worth?
On January 28 2014 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Read pro as poro, which is also a plus. Nothing quite like making enemies into poros.

It's why winter wonderland lulu is objectively the best lulu skin
Glorious SEA doto
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 27 2014 22:10 GMT
#2349
On January 28 2014 07:06 Fusilero wrote:
I played top lulu for fun in S3, pub stomped hard but in S4 those hyper tanks made the little yordle cry. I never really tried her mid but I'll give it a go if I get the chance.
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 06:52 Nos- wrote:
I thought mid lulu was only a very recent thing in korea

Well pawn tried it vs SKT, he once traded 1 for 1 with faker's orianna so uhh.... worth?
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Read pro as poro, which is also a plus. Nothing quite like making enemies into poros.

It's why winter wonderland lulu is objectively the best lulu skin


Lulu, Mother of Dragons, pls.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 27 2014 22:11 GMT
#2350
On January 28 2014 07:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:06 Fusilero wrote:
I played top lulu for fun in S3, pub stomped hard but in S4 those hyper tanks made the little yordle cry. I never really tried her mid but I'll give it a go if I get the chance.
On January 28 2014 06:52 Nos- wrote:
I thought mid lulu was only a very recent thing in korea

Well pawn tried it vs SKT, he once traded 1 for 1 with faker's orianna so uhh.... worth?
On January 28 2014 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Read pro as poro, which is also a plus. Nothing quite like making enemies into poros.

It's why winter wonderland lulu is objectively the best lulu skin


Lulu, Mother of Dragons, pls.

Way to show your scrublord status
Glorious SEA doto
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 27 2014 22:15 GMT
#2351
On January 28 2014 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:06 Fusilero wrote:
I played top lulu for fun in S3, pub stomped hard but in S4 those hyper tanks made the little yordle cry. I never really tried her mid but I'll give it a go if I get the chance.
On January 28 2014 06:52 Nos- wrote:
I thought mid lulu was only a very recent thing in korea

Well pawn tried it vs SKT, he once traded 1 for 1 with faker's orianna so uhh.... worth?
On January 28 2014 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Read pro as poro, which is also a plus. Nothing quite like making enemies into poros.

It's why winter wonderland lulu is objectively the best lulu skin


Lulu, Mother of Dragons, pls.

Way to show your scrublord status


Your Winter Wonderland will melt in Dragon Fire you Astaporan scum.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 27 2014 22:18 GMT
#2352
On January 28 2014 07:15 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:11 Fusilero wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:06 Fusilero wrote:
I played top lulu for fun in S3, pub stomped hard but in S4 those hyper tanks made the little yordle cry. I never really tried her mid but I'll give it a go if I get the chance.
On January 28 2014 06:52 Nos- wrote:
I thought mid lulu was only a very recent thing in korea

Well pawn tried it vs SKT, he once traded 1 for 1 with faker's orianna so uhh.... worth?
On January 28 2014 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Read pro as poro, which is also a plus. Nothing quite like making enemies into poros.

It's why winter wonderland lulu is objectively the best lulu skin


Lulu, Mother of Dragons, pls.

Way to show your scrublord status


Your Winter Wonderland will melt in Dragon Fire you Astaporan scum.

Nevermeltice>fire.
way to be a scrublord.
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 27 2014 22:23 GMT
#2353
Winter Wonderland is by far the superior skin. How is that even a contest?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 27 2014 22:24 GMT
#2354
I'd say that Trundle is far superior to Nunu as a lane bully now.

His sustain is essentially free, he has the option to steal defense and offense, and no one remembers his W doesn't only increase movespeed, it also increases healing and atkspeed, which means you can regen more with potions and also whack stuff down even faster while sticking to it even better.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 27 2014 22:32 GMT
#2355
Bjergsen actually named his dog Kappa. lol
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 27 2014 22:33 GMT
#2356
The main advantage of Trundle is you get to beat someone's face in with a giant club. He thrashes faces with a club with the best of them.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 27 2014 22:43 GMT
#2357
So I'm sitting on about 12k worth of IP, any recommendations on what I should spend it on? My gut says to blow it on Shyvana and Hybrid Pen. runes, but I'm open to any other suggestions.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 27 2014 22:45 GMT
#2358
On January 28 2014 07:43 Kinie wrote:
So I'm sitting on about 12k worth of IP, any recommendations on what I should spend it on? My gut says to blow it on Shyvana and Hybrid Pen. runes, but I'm open to any other suggestions.

Hard to give recomendations when we don't know what champs you have or what you like to play lol.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 27 2014 22:59 GMT
#2359
Get the hybrid pen Runes. They are secret OP, so secret that riot doesn't know.
Freeeeeeedom
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 27 2014 23:00 GMT
#2360
On January 28 2014 07:59 cLutZ wrote:
Get the hybrid pen Runes. They are secret OP, so secret that riot doesn't know.

They cost the most obviously they do.
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