EPT[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 149
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 03 2014 22:53 Fusilero wrote: Candypanda built it on sivir, I can see why it's a good idea on an AD heavy team. He also built it when he build absolutely no Crit %, and he was the only source of AD on his team. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 04 2014 00:02 wei2coolman wrote: He also built it when he build absolutely no Crit %, and he was the only source of AD on his team. I like the idea behind the BC sivir, just not how candy implemented it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 04 2014 00:08 Fusilero wrote: I like the idea behind the BC sivir, just not how candy implemented it. It's a very meh item on ADC's imo. Too many priority items to buy first before BC. Maybe as a LW replacement, if they don't have much armor, or something. BC probably only core on MF. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 04 2014 00:10 JimmiC wrote: I have a question about computers and running lol I want to get hat new Aver r7 it looks pretty cool but I wonder how it's going to be running LOL? Anyone have one and tried or know from the specs? + Show Spoiler + Screen Size 15.6 Inches Native Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 LED Backlit Display Yes Touchscreen Display Yes 3D Capable Display No Processor Type Intel Core i5 4200U Processor Cores 2 Processor Speed 1.6 GHz Processor Cache 3 MB L3 cache Hard Drive Capacity 750 GB Hard Drive Speed (Revolutions Per Minute) 5400 rpm RAM Size 8 GB RAM Type SODIMM DDR3 RAM Speed 1066 MHz RAM Slots 2 (0 Available) Optical Drive Not Applicable Built-in Memory Card Reader Yes Memory Card Reader - Compatible Memory Type SD Card Graphics Chipset Intel HD Graphics 4000 Video Memory Configuration Integrated Dedicated Video Memory Size Not Applicable Wireless Display (WiDi) Capable No Speaker Wattage 2 W Integrated Microphone Yes Microphone Input Yes Digital Audio Output No Hardware Volume Control No Webcam Yes Keyboard Language Bilingual Numeric Keypad No Backlit Keyboard Yes Type of Pointing Device Touchpad Number of Touchpad Buttons 1 Type of Modem Not Applicable USB 2.0 Ports 1 USB 3.0 Ports 2 VGA Output No HDMI Output Yes HDCP Compliant Yes IEEE 1394 Input/Output No eSATA Port No ExpressCard/34 Input No ExpressCard/54 Input No IR Receiver No Other Input or Output Ports None Ethernet Port 10/100/1000 Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n Integrated Bluetooth Yes 4.0 Approximate Battery Life Up to 4.5 Hours Battery Type Lithium-Ion Battery - Number of Cells 4 Battery - Capacity 3560 mAh Energy Star Qualified Yes Pre-loaded Operating System Windows 8 64-Bit Operating System Language Bilingual Loaded Software Baidu Music; eReadingNow; Hulu; LeTV; MagV; Music Maker Jam; myVideo; Netease Cloud Reading; Netflix; newsXpresso; Next Issue Magazine; Sohu Video; TuneIn; VcRead; Zinio Entertainment / Games; Didlr; Doodle God; Mahjong; Minesweeper; Monsters Love Candy; Pinball FX2; QQ Games; Shark Dash; Solitaire; Tap Tiles; WildTangent; Wordament Productivity; Evernote; Skitch Social; StumbleUpon Travel; Ctrip Utilities; Gateway Explorer; AccuWeather; Backpackers; Booking.com; EZTable; Launch ManagerLove Wall Colour Gunmetal Laptop Thickness (closed) 2.9 cm Laptop Depth 25.4 cm Laptop Width 37.7 cm Laptop Thickness (closed) (Inches) 1.1 Inches Laptop Depth (Inches) 10 Inches Laptop Width (Inches) 14.8 Inches Laptop Weight (including battery) 2.4 kg Warranty Labour 1 Year(s) Warranty Parts 1 Year(s) While I can't speak to the hardware itself and the touchscreen interaction or whatever, I think it's safe to assume that any laptop made in the past 3 years should have literally 0 trouble playing LoL. It's not a CPU-intensive game. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On January 04 2014 00:10 wei2coolman wrote: It's a very meh item on ADC's imo. Too many priority items to buy first before BC. Maybe as a LW replacement, if they don't have much armor, or something. BC probably only core on MF. I think BC is like you said only super good on MF tbh. And only if you have like more than just her as a source of ad at that. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Because of itemisation priorities it means it ends up not being bought on the marksmen, since it clashes with multiplicative scaling (it can't take the ArPen slot as LW is superior as far as egoistical itemisation goes), and a main damage-dealer would rather buy stronger 2/3-slots timing items such as Hydra or LW over it. In a way you could compare it to your jungle Maokai going Abyssal over SV or Banshee's so that he provides the MR reduction for your magic damage carries, since they're rather get deathcap, void staff, etc. over it ('cept for weird cases often involving the MR while BC barely provides any HP). | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It's good on MF and like Wukong, if your team is mostly AD damage. I actually think it's probably better than LW on Yasuo. Yasuo's innate pen is huge, I think the target has to have like 200+ armor for LW to give him more pen than BC. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On January 04 2014 01:24 Ketara wrote: In order for BC to be > LW on a character they need to either A - Have a ton of innate arpen already, or B - be able to apply lots of stacks to multiple enemy team members in a short period of time. The champ liking CDR is also a pretty big deal. It's good on MF and like Wukong, if your team is mostly AD damage. I actually think it's probably better than LW on Yasuo. Yasuo's innate pen is huge, I think the target has to have like 200+ armor for LW to give him more pen than BC. Does LW apply before his ults armpen? | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
Last Breath penetration applies before other armor penetration. | ||
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DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
On January 03 2014 22:00 M2 wrote: the Dream Yasou team: Malphite top, Vi jungle, Janna/Draven bot xD Gotta get orianna in there | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
You can't find BC good in a vacuum. There are cases where it's terrible (Pantheon, Talon for example would apply it with their most damaging nuke, wasting the effect; compare to Wukong whose usual combo is E-auto-Q-R which applies 3 stacks (and the Q reduction) before he starts ulting), and champions with kits that synergise better with it (eg. Riven would apply it way better than Nocturne), but having to buy it or not depend on the team composition and everyone's role. I'll buy BC on Pantheon in the late game because I'll be peeling for my marksman whose dps outdoes mine at that time and he'll likely be dealing with diving bruisers on whom the added shred will have more impact. I'll never buy BC on Pantheon in the early/midgame because my burst outstrips most marksmen and I'm the main physical threat of my team, barring a 5-0 Vayne while I'm 0-4 with half her cs obv. so buying BC to "enhance" their damage would actually be detrimental to our power curve. As for Yasuo a fully stacked BC provides him more ArPen than a LW while his ult's buff is active until something like 180 armour, yeah. Note that it depends on the base armour of the target: the bigger amount of the total is base armour, the less his buff reduces, and thus the less likely the 10 ArPen from BC is to make up for the 10% difference between BC and LW. As such, given identical amounts of total armour, you could have LW deal more damage to Darius while BC deals more damage to Jarvan. It's probably anecdotal in the end. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
Has anyone tried Ori support with the S4 support changes? Strong auto harass, free "ward," a shield, that nasty ult CC... on paper it seems plausible. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Yasuo's ult gives him 50% pen towards bonus armor. The base armor of your average squishy is around 75. vs. 75 armor and accounting for 6% pen from masteries, LW gives 24.675 pen. BC gives 27.625 pen. At 100 bonus armor and accounting for his ult, LW gives 41.125 pen. BC gives 39.375 pen. So 100 bonus armor is about the breakeven point. But then BC has more AD, CDR and some HP on it. Also costs more etc. But then again the downside to BC is if a lot of his damage is frontloaded from his ult (I don't know how to play Yasuo), then LW is clearly superior since it actually counts for his ult damage. Also, why are we building pen on Yasuo? I thought we were going Shiv>IE and then tank items. I don't know why I brought this up. If you're going glass cannon Yasuo it's probably worth thinking about though. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22552 Posts
Thanks for that tip btw, Tried TF and it looks good on him. Its also a much smoother build path then IE which is nice. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Edit: Also what is that site that shows OGN runes/masteries? Curious if he's using lifesteal quints. | ||
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