• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:46
CET 11:46
KST 19:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League97
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book SC2 Power Rank: epic29 Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Mathematicians needed to calc "Low Econ Epicness" SCHNAIL now supports Remastered Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Grand Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Deus Ex 3!? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8981 users

[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 124

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 122 123 124 125 126 210 Next
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 09 2013 20:27 GMT
#2461
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
November 09 2013 20:32 GMT
#2462
On November 09 2013 17:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17544567

oh and http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17065156



im glad you're posting again
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 09 2013 21:03 GMT
#2463
Can't you just start mana pots as Lulu? I always take at least 2, and I tend to buy 1-2 more each back if I see the opportunity to go aggro in lane.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
November 09 2013 21:07 GMT
#2464
On November 10 2013 05:27 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.


Pick up a mp/5 quint and 3-4 mp/5 blues, don't use your Q at rank 1.

Mana issues largely mitigated.
Stay positive!
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 21:32:46
November 09 2013 21:32 GMT
#2465
On November 10 2013 06:07 remedium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 05:27 Haiq343 wrote:
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.


Pick up a mp/5 quint and 3-4 mp/5 blues, don't use your Q at rank 1.

Mana issues largely mitigated.

Not use rank 1 Q?! I'm a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
+ Show Spoiler +

I guess runes are a solid idea though, sounds like a potential plan for s4.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 09 2013 22:02 GMT
#2466
the answer to any champion's mana problems is not to use any ability, genius!
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 22:08:34
November 09 2013 22:08 GMT
#2467
On November 10 2013 05:27 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.

Q not worth using util lvl 2, where you can start abusing the Q->E combos. Otherwise missing them hurts, a lot.
On November 10 2013 07:02 SagaZ wrote:
the answer to any champion's mana problems is not to use any ability, genius!

You should play DotA. hehehehe.
liftlift > tsm
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 09 2013 22:32 GMT
#2468
On November 10 2013 07:02 SagaZ wrote:
the answer to any champion's mana problems is not to use any ability, genius!

No, it's to play a manaless champion. Mana champions shouldn't even be in the game, they can't compete.
3.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 09 2013 22:39 GMT
#2469
If Syndra is coming into FOTM I welcome the incoming Cassio overlords.
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 09 2013 22:41 GMT
#2470
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 09 2013 22:48 GMT
#2471
My buddy (the one I have mentioned around here before, the one that says "oracles is the jungler's job, i can't afford it" and spends his meager support gold on stuff like glacial shroud and that nega+ruby item instead of pink wards) told me he paid someone to boost him to Gold, I reprimanded him severely, he was unaffected.

Now with only two days to go, I am quite sure that his elo boosting will fail, because he was in Silver 4, and the people he paid to do it are kinda lazy. I am quite pleased that he has lost money and will not attain his false Gold.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 09 2013 22:53 GMT
#2472
On November 10 2013 07:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
My buddy (the one I have mentioned around here before, the one that says "oracles is the jungler's job, i can't afford it" and spends his meager support gold on stuff like glacial shroud and that nega+ruby item instead of pink wards) told me he paid someone to boost him to Gold, I reprimanded him severely, he was unaffected.

Now with only two days to go, I am quite sure that his elo boosting will fail, because he was in Silver 4, and the people he paid to do it are kinda lazy. I am quite pleased that he has lost money and will not attain his false Gold.

Sweet sweet justice?
liftlift > tsm
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 09 2013 23:00 GMT
#2473
Pretty much! I have encountered him bragging to people in customs that he's plat because his nameplate says plat 4, because he played and lost one game on a plat 3v3 team, but is silver 4 in solo queue. if you care enough about your rank to brag, you damn well better care enough to attain that rank by your own hand
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 09 2013 23:23 GMT
#2474
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 09 2013 23:25 GMT
#2475
On November 10 2013 08:23 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...

Just E max, it's retard proof.
liftlift > tsm
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 09 2013 23:26 GMT
#2476
You do really feel bad for playing bad with Nami.

"I will see my home again!"

Well Nami... about that... *You have been slain*
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 09 2013 23:27 GMT
#2477
How much do you even pay for a service like that anyway? It's astounding that people actually spend money to get their accounts boosted.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 23:30:25
November 09 2013 23:27 GMT
#2478
On November 10 2013 08:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 08:23 Haiq343 wrote:
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...

Just E max, it's retard proof.

Well e max is best in most situations anyway.90% of the time you slow with e and then bubble anyway.With more slow easier to hit :D.

It depends who does the boosting.There are some sites that are pretty expensive like 2/3euros per win in silver and they have quite a few users.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 23:32:56
November 09 2013 23:31 GMT
#2479
On November 10 2013 08:27 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 08:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 10 2013 08:23 Haiq343 wrote:
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...

Just E max, it's retard proof.

Well e max is best in most situations anyway.90% of the time you slow with e and then bubble anyway.With more slow easier to hit :D.

It depends who does the boosting.There are some sites that are pretty expensive like 2/3$ per win in silver.

That's why it's retard proof, but number wise, Q max does max dmg's.
If you're godlife and could hit every single possible skillshot like a god, Q max is numerically better.
But, most of us are scrubs, so E max is best. Though, I do like getting 2 points in W, pre-6.
On November 10 2013 08:27 koreasilver wrote:
How much do you even pay for a service like that anyway? It's astounding that people actually spend money to get their accounts boosted.

Assuming they're doing it for the end of season reward, it wouldn't be insane to think that it's worth a minimum of 40-50 bucks imo. Borders + Skin + Elise (if you don't already own her), is worth a fancy penny.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#2480
On November 10 2013 07:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
My buddy (the one I have mentioned around here before, the one that says "oracles is the jungler's job, i can't afford it" and spends his meager support gold on stuff like glacial shroud and that nega+ruby item instead of pink wards) told me he paid someone to boost him to Gold, I reprimanded him severely, he was unaffected.

Now with only two days to go, I am quite sure that his elo boosting will fail, because he was in Silver 4, and the people he paid to do it are kinda lazy. I am quite pleased that he has lost money and will not attain his false Gold.

Eh...I don't feel bad for my false Gold this season.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Prev 1 122 123 124 125 126 210 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 15m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 471
ByuN 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1844
firebathero 1022
Horang2 740
GuemChi 549
FanTaSy 463
Bisu 381
BeSt 340
Leta 279
Killer 228
Zeus 188
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 179
Mind 129
Soma 122
Last 117
Pusan 87
sorry 77
Shinee 53
Barracks 49
Bishop 38
910 31
ToSsGirL 31
Aegong 25
Classic 21
soO 17
zelot 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Free 13
Sacsri 13
Snow 7
Other Games
XaKoH 420
Happy331
Pyrionflax150
ArmadaUGS48
B2W.Neo5
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1456
Other Games
ComeBackTV 303
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 19
lovetv 8
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 33
• Adnapsc2 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 15m
Yamato Cup
4h 15m
IPSL
6h 15m
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
12h 15m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 1h
Ultimate Battle
1d 1h
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.