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[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 124

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Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 09 2013 20:27 GMT
#2461
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 09 2013 20:32 GMT
#2462
On November 09 2013 17:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17544567

oh and http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17065156



im glad you're posting again
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 09 2013 21:03 GMT
#2463
Can't you just start mana pots as Lulu? I always take at least 2, and I tend to buy 1-2 more each back if I see the opportunity to go aggro in lane.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
November 09 2013 21:07 GMT
#2464
On November 10 2013 05:27 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.


Pick up a mp/5 quint and 3-4 mp/5 blues, don't use your Q at rank 1.

Mana issues largely mitigated.
Stay positive!
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 21:32:46
November 09 2013 21:32 GMT
#2465
On November 10 2013 06:07 remedium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 05:27 Haiq343 wrote:
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.


Pick up a mp/5 quint and 3-4 mp/5 blues, don't use your Q at rank 1.

Mana issues largely mitigated.

Not use rank 1 Q?! I'm a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
+ Show Spoiler +

I guess runes are a solid idea though, sounds like a potential plan for s4.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 09 2013 22:02 GMT
#2466
the answer to any champion's mana problems is not to use any ability, genius!
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 22:08:34
November 09 2013 22:08 GMT
#2467
On November 10 2013 05:27 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 04:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Wukong gets passive armor/MR, Soraka has her MR, Sona if you count the passive component of her W off the top of my head.

Far as supports go, I still play Lulu quite a bit. Nami is probably stronger, but the amount of things you can do with Lulu makes her so much more fun.

EDIT: Lulu : 312 games played, 58% win, Nami 67, 66% win

I think Lulu is the most fun, but her starting mana issues makes me more emo than Eeyore. My compromise is to spam zyra and just 'secure' all the kills.

Q not worth using util lvl 2, where you can start abusing the Q->E combos. Otherwise missing them hurts, a lot.
On November 10 2013 07:02 SagaZ wrote:
the answer to any champion's mana problems is not to use any ability, genius!

You should play DotA. hehehehe.
liftlift > tsm
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 09 2013 22:32 GMT
#2468
On November 10 2013 07:02 SagaZ wrote:
the answer to any champion's mana problems is not to use any ability, genius!

No, it's to play a manaless champion. Mana champions shouldn't even be in the game, they can't compete.
3.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 09 2013 22:39 GMT
#2469
If Syndra is coming into FOTM I welcome the incoming Cassio overlords.
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 09 2013 22:41 GMT
#2470
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 09 2013 22:48 GMT
#2471
My buddy (the one I have mentioned around here before, the one that says "oracles is the jungler's job, i can't afford it" and spends his meager support gold on stuff like glacial shroud and that nega+ruby item instead of pink wards) told me he paid someone to boost him to Gold, I reprimanded him severely, he was unaffected.

Now with only two days to go, I am quite sure that his elo boosting will fail, because he was in Silver 4, and the people he paid to do it are kinda lazy. I am quite pleased that he has lost money and will not attain his false Gold.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 09 2013 22:53 GMT
#2472
On November 10 2013 07:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
My buddy (the one I have mentioned around here before, the one that says "oracles is the jungler's job, i can't afford it" and spends his meager support gold on stuff like glacial shroud and that nega+ruby item instead of pink wards) told me he paid someone to boost him to Gold, I reprimanded him severely, he was unaffected.

Now with only two days to go, I am quite sure that his elo boosting will fail, because he was in Silver 4, and the people he paid to do it are kinda lazy. I am quite pleased that he has lost money and will not attain his false Gold.

Sweet sweet justice?
liftlift > tsm
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 09 2013 23:00 GMT
#2473
Pretty much! I have encountered him bragging to people in customs that he's plat because his nameplate says plat 4, because he played and lost one game on a plat 3v3 team, but is silver 4 in solo queue. if you care enough about your rank to brag, you damn well better care enough to attain that rank by your own hand
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 09 2013 23:23 GMT
#2474
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 09 2013 23:25 GMT
#2475
On November 10 2013 08:23 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...

Just E max, it's retard proof.
liftlift > tsm
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 09 2013 23:26 GMT
#2476
You do really feel bad for playing bad with Nami.

"I will see my home again!"

Well Nami... about that... *You have been slain*
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 09 2013 23:27 GMT
#2477
How much do you even pay for a service like that anyway? It's astounding that people actually spend money to get their accounts boosted.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 23:30:25
November 09 2013 23:27 GMT
#2478
On November 10 2013 08:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 08:23 Haiq343 wrote:
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...

Just E max, it's retard proof.

Well e max is best in most situations anyway.90% of the time you slow with e and then bubble anyway.With more slow easier to hit :D.

It depends who does the boosting.There are some sites that are pretty expensive like 2/3euros per win in silver and they have quite a few users.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 23:32:56
November 09 2013 23:31 GMT
#2479
On November 10 2013 08:27 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 08:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 10 2013 08:23 Haiq343 wrote:
On November 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
I would play Nami again but I know my bubbles would be trash tier after not playing her for so long lol.

Nami feels really bad when you're bad and miss bubbles. I would know...

Just E max, it's retard proof.

Well e max is best in most situations anyway.90% of the time you slow with e and then bubble anyway.With more slow easier to hit :D.

It depends who does the boosting.There are some sites that are pretty expensive like 2/3$ per win in silver.

That's why it's retard proof, but number wise, Q max does max dmg's.
If you're godlife and could hit every single possible skillshot like a god, Q max is numerically better.
But, most of us are scrubs, so E max is best. Though, I do like getting 2 points in W, pre-6.
On November 10 2013 08:27 koreasilver wrote:
How much do you even pay for a service like that anyway? It's astounding that people actually spend money to get their accounts boosted.

Assuming they're doing it for the end of season reward, it wouldn't be insane to think that it's worth a minimum of 40-50 bucks imo. Borders + Skin + Elise (if you don't already own her), is worth a fancy penny.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#2480
On November 10 2013 07:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
My buddy (the one I have mentioned around here before, the one that says "oracles is the jungler's job, i can't afford it" and spends his meager support gold on stuff like glacial shroud and that nega+ruby item instead of pink wards) told me he paid someone to boost him to Gold, I reprimanded him severely, he was unaffected.

Now with only two days to go, I am quite sure that his elo boosting will fail, because he was in Silver 4, and the people he paid to do it are kinda lazy. I am quite pleased that he has lost money and will not attain his false Gold.

Eh...I don't feel bad for my false Gold this season.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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