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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
September 07 2013 11:57 GMT
#61
I fucking hate the new Galaxy logo. It looks so dull in comparison to the Khan logo.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 12:06:48
September 07 2013 12:06 GMT
#62
On September 07 2013 20:52 Chexx wrote:
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Homme: As it turned out we joined a very prestige and major team in our country so I feel very happy. In return for the sponsorship we will try even harder. Before we got signed by Samsung we already showed you our best performance but now we want to be even better. I can’t talk in more detail about the contract but I really think it is the best in the Korean LoL scene.

Mata: Honestly there was no big changes so I don’t feel much different. In reality I know changes will come. The uniforms are very pretty and I really like them (laughs). Other than that I have no idea. I will return this good opportunity with a steady increasing performance.

Dandy: I will train hard because we met such a good sponsor. I am really happy. Uniforms are very pretty. To not shame the Samsung name I will train hard.

Imp: There are no words to describe how good I feel. From now on I will focus on my form and behavior, I will show a grateful performance to the fans. We will show a strong performance to thank the people who believe in us and our sponsor.

Dade: That we receive a lot of support from Samsung and were able to join them makes me very happy. I can conviently concentrate on the game in the Samsung environment I like it alot. I am happy to work together with a rich sponsor and I think with better results more money therefore I will try harder.

Source: Inven

The last sentence of Dade is probably wrong because I dont know exactly what 빵빵하다 means


Haha I just hope Imp won't change his behaviour too much! He was incredibly humble in the recent Grilled, which is nice, but I hope he will bring out the trashtalk again when it's time for the big matches, like he used to!
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
September 07 2013 12:39 GMT
#63
On September 07 2013 12:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
Welp,

They certainly said what many have been thinking for awhile about the Korean scene - that LoL is the second golden age of e-sport competition after Brood War.


It is. Blizzard took the transition for granted when it was all but that, and didn't make that much effort to solidify their lead on the esport market. Now they're trying, but it's too late, LoL is already dominant, because it's F2P and because Riot showered tournaments and teams with money while blizzard was busy trying to make broadcasters pay. Something they could do without consequences when they were the dominant force on the market, but now that concurrence is stronger, they need to change the way they do things.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3686 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 12:53:01
September 07 2013 12:47 GMT
#64
On September 07 2013 13:46 RezChi wrote:
Holy shit, not only they buy MVP Ozone, they change the team name? I preferred Khan = (


Starcraft team is still Khan, just the LoL teams get to keep their names. It's actually wrong in OP.

To clarify even more (as I see a lot of people getting this wrong):
MVP Ozone = Samsung Galaxy Ozone
MVP Blue = Samsung Galaxy Blue
Samsung Khan = Samsung Galaxy Khan
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
September 07 2013 13:02 GMT
#65
On September 07 2013 15:44 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 15:41 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
As a ignorant peon, is the LoL scene propped up by Riot, third party interests, or a combination of both? I'm impressed with its growth, but call me cynical, I am used to seeing a competitive gaming scene struggle to develop and establish itself prior to exploding (ala BW, CS, FIghting scene, etc.) It always seemed to me LoL never had a struggle and just coasts. Am I way off and just missed the hard years?


You need to seperate between EU/NA and Korea. In Korea it's the classic Korean model. First huge growth at pc bangs, then OGN starts picking it up and broadcasts it with big company sponsors on TV and it grows tremendously each season (since early 2012 now). That's why people always compare LoL to how BW started out in Korea (see Chobra grilled with Thorin).

In the West it's LCS by Riot. They made the initial investment themselves and pay most of its cost, however they are also acquiring a lot of sponsors recently, for example just now got American Express to sponsor the LCS and the WorldFinals, and also recently promoted Pacific Rim on their NA LCS stream. So it's getting there, but I'm sure that it's not self-sustainable yet. In Korea it is, obviously.



Thanks to the people who answered.

Is Korea following the BW model in the sense it priming its scene to exist more or less independent of the global scene, or have they taken more strides to globalize their success? Is Riot just letting them do their own thing or are they behaving like Blizzard in establishing legal foundations for their IP and its use? Are their any problems that the community forsee's for LoL (Like SC2 skill/geography differential or something) that could cause serious turbulence or is it all gum drops and rainbows thus far?
NuKE[vZ]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States249 Posts
September 07 2013 13:04 GMT
#66
On September 07 2013 13:36 ketchup wrote:
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On September 07 2013 13:18 Dodgin wrote:
On September 07 2013 13:16 ketchup wrote:
On September 07 2013 12:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
Welp,

They certainly said what many have been thinking for awhile about the Korean scene - that LoL is the second golden age of e-sport competition after Brood War.

Kinda sad that MVP's other departments get shafted (though hopefully they will improve with the funding from Samsung), though very happy for MVP's LoL players who have really established themselves amongst the top teams in the world in a short time.


I don't know if you are looking at this in the right manner. The other MVP teams will be benefiting from the money that they got from the LoL deal. It's pretty much a win / win situation. I assume the money they received was large enough that MVP would part from their LoL teams like this.


The thing we don't know for sure though is that the other MVP staff staying with the SC2/Dota2 teams and the SC2/Dota2 players are receiving anything at all from this. It's entirely possible all of the transfer money went to coach Choi and the LoL players. So MVP lost their head coach and manager for nothing in that scenario.


Why would they accept that type of deal? I guess I don't understand why people think MVP would accept a deal that places them in a bad financial situation.



I think Samsung acquired the LoL teams plus the management/coaches and left the sc2 division out to dry... my opinion anyway and I haven't gotten past page 1 yet of the comments, so maybe I'm missing something.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 07 2013 13:13 GMT
#67
On September 07 2013 22:02 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 15:44 UmberBane wrote:
On September 07 2013 15:41 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
As a ignorant peon, is the LoL scene propped up by Riot, third party interests, or a combination of both? I'm impressed with its growth, but call me cynical, I am used to seeing a competitive gaming scene struggle to develop and establish itself prior to exploding (ala BW, CS, FIghting scene, etc.) It always seemed to me LoL never had a struggle and just coasts. Am I way off and just missed the hard years?


You need to seperate between EU/NA and Korea. In Korea it's the classic Korean model. First huge growth at pc bangs, then OGN starts picking it up and broadcasts it with big company sponsors on TV and it grows tremendously each season (since early 2012 now). That's why people always compare LoL to how BW started out in Korea (see Chobra grilled with Thorin).

In the West it's LCS by Riot. They made the initial investment themselves and pay most of its cost, however they are also acquiring a lot of sponsors recently, for example just now got American Express to sponsor the LCS and the WorldFinals, and also recently promoted Pacific Rim on their NA LCS stream. So it's getting there, but I'm sure that it's not self-sustainable yet. In Korea it is, obviously.



Thanks to the people who answered.

Is Korea following the BW model in the sense it priming its scene to exist more or less independent of the global scene, or have they taken more strides to globalize their success? Is Riot just letting them do their own thing or are they behaving like Blizzard in establishing legal foundations for their IP and its use? Are their any problems that the community forsee's for LoL (Like SC2 skill/geography differential or something) that could cause serious turbulence or is it all gum drops and rainbows thus far?


So far OGN is pretty much doing their own thing from what it looks like, although OGN and KeSPA seem to have a very good relationship to Riot Korea and tend to work together closely. However, they are not taking control of them or anything like say what Blizzard tried to do with WCS. OGN actually completely does their own format which is vastly different from the LCS format (I prefer it). So it's not all streamlined or anything and seems more free than say the WCS system in Korea. Of course there are concerns in the LoL scene that the Koreans keep getting so damn far ahead that everything will just be a Koreanfest (to be honest, it already is at that point) and this supposedly was one of the main reasons for Riot to do their LCS in EU/NA, because they wanted a fully professional league and infrastructure that can potentially keep up with the Koreans and other Asian countries. Obviously that's not happening because KeSPA is just way too advanced with their coaching staff and incredible long eSports history (for example Reach, Yellow, Garimto are all LoL coaches now), but at least it helps keep the gap a little smaller than it would be without the LCS. But there's just no escape from the Korean dominance, they will do anything humanly possible to completely outshine you in every aspect - and that's how it is.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 07 2013 13:54 GMT
#68
More and more interest in LoL it seems. Rather bad for SC2.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 07 2013 14:12 GMT
#69
Well MVP's SC2 team seems pretty screwed. Haven't been picked up by Samsung so they won't be in Proleague and they left eSF so they won't be in GSTL. Sad times
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
September 07 2013 14:14 GMT
#70
I respect their decision. Honestly, it is just not worth it to invest in SC2. Not only is it a difficult game to lure people with, it is easy for people to leave.
T P Z sagi
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 07 2013 14:51 GMT
#71
The only thing I don't like are their new uniforms though. I hope they will switch them up soon. Old MVP uniforms looked really nice.

[image loading]
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
September 07 2013 15:07 GMT
#72
On September 07 2013 23:51 UmberBane wrote:
The only thing I don't like are their new uniforms though. I hope they will switch them up soon. Old MVP uniforms looked really nice.

[image loading]



LOL I reckon. The new samsung uniform looks terrible tbh.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 07 2013 15:11 GMT
#73
I like them :<
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Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 15:11:57
September 07 2013 15:11 GMT
#74
On September 07 2013 14:50 UmberBane wrote:
Awesome as ever, Frost! I won't get tired of saying that.

Sad as fuck that the dancing coach leaves though......... I'm not sure if changing your coach right before Worlds is a good idea.

By the way, why does the article say "best amateur teams"? I don't get it.


It's saying Samsung considered MVP Blue/Ozone as the best two amataur teams
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 15:15:01
September 07 2013 15:13 GMT
#75
Yeah they really should come up with something better for Worlds. Just a big standard Samsung logo across the chest in simple blue-white would already look a lot better than what they have now in my opinion... Oh well, can't have it all.

On September 08 2013 00:11 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 14:50 UmberBane wrote:
Awesome as ever, Frost! I won't get tired of saying that.

Sad as fuck that the dancing coach leaves though......... I'm not sure if changing your coach right before Worlds is a good idea.

By the way, why does the article say "best amateur teams"? I don't get it.


It's saying Samsung considered MVP Blue/Ozone as the best two amataur teams


I still don't understand the whole "amateur" context. It makes it sound like they picked up a rookie team to build them up, when they actually did the exact opposite.
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
September 07 2013 15:21 GMT
#76
On September 08 2013 00:13 UmberBane wrote:
Yeah they really should come up with something better for Worlds. Just a big standard Samsung logo across the chest in simple blue-white would already look a lot better than what they have now in my opinion... Oh well, can't have it all.

Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 00:11 Frost wrote:
On September 07 2013 14:50 UmberBane wrote:
Awesome as ever, Frost! I won't get tired of saying that.

Sad as fuck that the dancing coach leaves though......... I'm not sure if changing your coach right before Worlds is a good idea.

By the way, why does the article say "best amateur teams"? I don't get it.


It's saying Samsung considered MVP Blue/Ozone as the best two amataur teams


I still don't understand the whole "amateur" context. It makes it sound like they picked up a rookie team to build them up, when they actually did the exact opposite.


It just means that Samsung considered them as "amateur"
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 07 2013 15:25 GMT
#77
On September 08 2013 00:21 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 00:13 UmberBane wrote:
Yeah they really should come up with something better for Worlds. Just a big standard Samsung logo across the chest in simple blue-white would already look a lot better than what they have now in my opinion... Oh well, can't have it all.

On September 08 2013 00:11 Frost wrote:
On September 07 2013 14:50 UmberBane wrote:
Awesome as ever, Frost! I won't get tired of saying that.

Sad as fuck that the dancing coach leaves though......... I'm not sure if changing your coach right before Worlds is a good idea.

By the way, why does the article say "best amateur teams"? I don't get it.


It's saying Samsung considered MVP Blue/Ozone as the best two amataur teams


I still don't understand the whole "amateur" context. It makes it sound like they picked up a rookie team to build them up, when they actually did the exact opposite.


It just means that Samsung considered them as "amateur"


Oh okay. Smug KeSPA bastards!
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
September 07 2013 15:36 GMT
#78
Why does this article have a SC2 tag on it? To rub it in or something?
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 07 2013 15:40 GMT
#79
On September 08 2013 00:36 OPL3SA2 wrote:
Why does this article have a SC2 tag on it? To rub it in or something?


My guess would be because it is an update on the rumours that the MVP SC2 team would get acquired by Samsung, aswell. I get where you're coming from, but bad news are still news...
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
September 07 2013 15:41 GMT
#80
I wouldn't be surprised with MVPs dota2 and sc2 team gets swallowed by someone looking to get in the Nexon sponsorship tournament.
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